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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by theback40:
I know the logistics of amending it. I wonder what Topic, for lack of a better word, it would take to get people together enough to get it done.
Letting a non-native born person be pres. is not going to be it.

Getting rid of the last lingering vestige of slavery, the Electoral College, would be a fine place to start. Amending the definition of "treason" to recognize that traitors don't need a declared war to betray the Country would be another.

I disagree. A citizen is a citizen. GOP was all for it when Arnold Schwarzenegger got elected. The last R you will see be the Gov of California. When the Constitution was written we did not believe, create, nor want a base level of citizenship. We now have that, with the 14th Amendment. This is dispute the far right’s attempts to destroy it.

A citizen a citizen. That has to mean something regardless of where one is standing.

Citizenship obtained by fraud should be null and void.

Send him back to Canada.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Yawn:

I do not need your permission to state my preferences.

The GOP was supportive of amending the Constitution when Arnold was the golden boy.

I can state whatever i want subject to the host on the topic.

A citizen is a citizen. Had the intent of the 14th Amendment’s Privileges and Immunities clause not been destroyed by a 19th century Court the matter would already be a reality.


The “county” would agree on it if Congress would pass the resolution to the states for ratification.

You know how we find out. Pass the JR and let the states vote.

It is just as likely the “country” would go for it as whatever you think they would.

The fact you think it would not pass does not make it so either.

My idea of citizenship that informs my opinion is now the law of the land thanks to the Incorporation Doctrine.

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Originally posted by theback40:
This should be easy.
Heym can go to DC, walk in to capitol hill and tell them what he demands. Make sure you shake your finger and say " do you know who I am?"
Obo was accused of not being a US citizen, and was a huge issue. That is what it has to do with things. I think trump was in on that too, if I remember right. The turd head.

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
I’m voting Bob for Transportation Secretary

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Sounds about right for a Democrat. Let’s deport the guy creating thousands of high paying jobs.

Versus deporting the millions of people who do the low-paying jobs?

Makes sense....

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І wish politіcians would loоk out for miners
And not juѕt minors оn аn island somewhere
Lord wе got folks іn the ѕtreet ain’t gоt nothing to eat
And thе obese milking welfare

Wеll god іf уоu’re 5-foot-3 аnd you’re 300 pounds
Taxes оught not to pay for your bags of fudge rоundѕ
Young men arе putting themselves six feеt in the ground
‘cаuse all thiѕ damn country does іs keеp оn kicking them down

Lord it’s a damn shаme what the world’ѕ gotten tо
For pеople like me and peoplе lіke уou
Wish I соuld just wake up and it not be true
But it is oh іt is

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Wish I соuld just wake up and it not be true
But it is oh іt is

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
Tell me about the American youth you know looking to go into a career in harvesting vegetables Lane.

You are correct…none are. Nor are any immigrants.

But, wouldn’t be better for all (especially the lost souls) to see those encampments of homeless camped along a vegetable field…working, eating, sleeping, and having a sense of accomplishment.

Instead of trying to make semaglutides affordable to those on welfare…would be better to see them lean, fit, and strong from activity — their minds clear from a sense of accomplishment?

We have become a society that thinks it is too good for those jobs. Who will do them?

A mentality that will kill us and needs to change. The basic mentality which brought down the Roman Empire.

Do any of your son's classmates or friends want to pursue menial labor? If not, who will do the jobs that need to be done?

While they may strive for something else…reality dictates that menial labor is the ultimate some can achieve. Rather than make it a stigma, a healthy society should embrace that realism and dictate policy to support.

Hint, it will be those with less "pride", immigrants.

We manufactured it to be that way. It wasn’t always that way. And we shouldn’t remain.

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
Properly regulate and oversee welfare. Have a fair and robust law enforcement and you’ll be surprised how those jobs get filled. And that’s what it is…a job. Not a career.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
You have proven my point, none want to work the fields and they refuse to.

No, they are given tax paid options not to.

You are wrong on who harvests our food, it is immigrants, not Americans.

I see no one saying anything different Steve. All I am stating is that we, Americans, chose it to be that way. We could do better if we chose as well.

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Тheѕe rich men north of richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna havе totаl cоntrol

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
You have proven my point, none want to work the fields and they refuse to.

No, they are given tax paid options not to.

You are wrong on who harvests our food, it is immigrants, not Americans.

I see no one saying anything different Steve. All I am stating is that we, Americans, chose it to be that way. We could do better if we chose as well.