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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by crbutler:
The point being why they are popular in Norway. Cheap hydro power, extremely well defined infrastructure and everything is geographically close.

Exactly. Norway is 1/25th the size of the USA.

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Originally posted by wymple:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
Hertz is selling 1/3 of their fleet of Teslas because of high maintenance costs. And Chicago drivers are abandoning their cars at Tesla charging stations because they can’t get them to charge the last few days. What a great idea- NOT..

https://www.msn.com/en-us/auto...uxawYAanRmTHDcfwy4bA

And Wal-Mart bought 4500 of them. They are also dabbling in electric semis in cold ass Canada now.

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I'm not counting the people who have a junkyard of dead vehicles out back as having more than one!

~Ann

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I actually doubt that EVs will stand the test of time.

I expect, when we actually manage to have good batteries, that EVs will largely remove urban cars - but unlikely to replace rural ones. then again, i think private ownership of cars will be a thing of the past by then, and it will all be some collective rideshare thing - and home ownership will be long gone, all the "youngins" will be renting at a billion dollars a month -- gotta love that Biden inflation - At least Jimmy will go to his grave, knowing he is no longer the worst president ever

but the laptops on wheels we have today are not the answer

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Originally posted by theback40:
Poor people have more than one vehicle?
The actually poor people here, have one.
The poor couples work different shifts, so the second takes the vehicle to work while the first sleeps and is off. And they dont have a 40,000 EV doing it. If a household has multiple vehicles, they are not poor by normal standards.
I'm not counting the people who have a junkyard of dead vehicles out back as having more than one!

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Originally posted by wymple:

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Originally posted by theback40:
Poor people have more than one vehicle?
The actually poor people here, have one.
The poor couples work different shifts, so the second takes the vehicle to work while the first sleeps and is off. And they dont have a 40,000 EV doing it. If a household has multiple vehicles, they are not poor by normal standards.
I'm not counting the people who have a junkyard of dead vehicles out back as having more than one!

There are 284 million cars in this country, give or take a few. Since 50 million people aren't even 15, millions more don't drive at all, that leaves a vehicle for every person of driving age or better.People who are in nursing homes, prisons, etc don't drive. Millions who live in high rises & such don't own cars, & use public transport. The average home with drivers has more than 1 vehicle by far. Stop pretending such stupidity.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

most Americans don't have the luxury of having 2+ cars for the adults in the home,

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Originally posted by wymple:
The average home with drivers has more than 1 vehicle by far. Stop pretending such stupidity.

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Originally posted by theback40:
Funny math.
Check any vacation /resort town. Folks own second and 3rd homes have a car at those vacation homes. Even if they live in a highrise and dont drive in the city. Jeesh your stupid wymple.

~Ann

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Originally posted by wymple:
"Only 9% of US households do not own a single car, which means that 91% of all households own at least one car. In fact, a third of households own a single car, leaving 33.1% that own two cars, 24% that own three, and 3.4% that own more than five vehicles."

So well over 1/2 of the US has 2, 3, or even 5 vehicles. 1.88 per household. So I'd say my assertion that that a man & his family have more than one car is.... close enough. Almost everybody I know has more than 1 vehicle in the family. YMMV

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

tells us, though, is your "Sports car" a corvette, camaro, charger, or mustang? or, something REALLY exotic, like an XLR?

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by wymple:
"Only 9% of US households do not own a single car, which means that 91% of all households own at least one car. In fact, a third of households own a single car, leaving 33.1% that own two cars, 24% that own three, and 3.4% that own more than five vehicles."

So well over 1/2 of the US has 2, 3, or even 5 vehicles. 1.88 per household. So I'd say my assertion that that a man & his family have more than one car is.... close enough. Almost everybody I know has more than 1 vehicle in the family. YMMV

by YOUR math, 42.3% of americans own ONE car, and 33.1% own 2 cars, meaning that 75.4% of american's don't own 2+ cars - by your OWN stats. last time i checked, 75+% is the majority

close enough, yeah?

math isn't your thing, we get it

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Originally posted by wymple:
An 86 Pontiac Fiero with a 3800 engine swap. It's what I like, and I did it myself.

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by wymple:
An 86 Pontiac Fiero with a 3800 engine swap. It's what I like, and I did it myself.

Naturally aspirated or SSEI? An interesting rig in either case...

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by wymple:
An 86 Pontiac Fiero with a 3800 engine swap. It's what I like, and I did it myself.

Naturally aspirated or SSEI? An interesting rig in either case...

Id like to know more about this.

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Originally posted by wymple:
Trying to move your goal post won't work. You've gone from 1 car to "not more than 2". Close enough for you, I guess.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
most Americans don't have the luxury of having 2+ cars for the adults in the home,

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Originally posted by Scott King:
I'm headed to Tucson in a couple weeks and most of the cars for rent on Turo were Tesla.
Don't take my word for it, look for yourself.

I rented a Camry.

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Originally posted by wymple:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by wymple:
An 86 Pontiac Fiero with a 3800 engine swap. It's what I like, and I did it myself.

Naturally aspirated or SSEI? An interesting rig in either case...

Id like to know more about this.

Mine is N/A, supercharged is more common. Pretty slick either way. I think the extra power in the boosted engines are too hard on the drivelines. Go to Pennock's Fiero forums, it's done a ton. I went with the Muncie 4 speed for the best gear spacing. Most go with a 5 speed for fuel mileage.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by wymple:
Trying to move your goal post won't work. You've gone from 1 car to "not more than 2". Close enough for you, I guess.

wrong, a couple way
i said

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
most Americans don't have the luxury of having 2+ cars for the adults in the home,

so, no denial on the maths
reading might be a challenge

i put a turbo 3.8 buick in a TR-8 in the mid eighties, it was a blast, but when the boost came on, it just blew the tires off

as for fieros, i don't fit, i am too tall, and my head jams into the ceiling. though i've owned 2 of them, as I had dreams of building a convertible kitcar - same fitment in corvettes

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by wymple:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by wymple:
An 86 Pontiac Fiero with a 3800 engine swap. It's what I like, and I did it myself.

Naturally aspirated or SSEI? An interesting rig in either case...

Id like to know more about this.

Mine is N/A, supercharged is more common. Pretty slick either way. I think the extra power in the boosted engines are too hard on the drivelines. Go to Pennock's Fiero forums, it's done a ton. I went with the Muncie 4 speed for the best gear spacing. Most go with a 5 speed for fuel mileage.

Our household has an SSEI and a Buick Century, 3.8 and 3.1 engines.
There is a temptation here, one that CARB would probably not approve.
The supercharged 3.8s appear now and then in the salvage yard.

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Originally posted by wymple:
[quote 33.1% that own two cars, 24% that own three, and 3.4% that own more than five vehicles."

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Originally posted by nute:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by wymple:
Trying to move your goal post won't work. You've gone from 1 car to "not more than 2". Close enough for you, I guess.

wrong, a couple way
i said

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
most Americans don't have the luxury of having 2+ cars for the adults in the home,

so, no denial on the maths
reading might be a challenge

i put a turbo 3.8 buick in a TR-8 in the mid eighties, it was a blast, but when the boost came on, it just blew the tires off

as for fieros, i don't fit, i am too tall, and my head jams into the ceiling. though i've owned 2 of them, as I had dreams of building a convertible kitcar - same fitment in corvettes

I had a TR7 in the 80’s, bloody awful engine. Lots of people here put 3.0 V8’s in them from Rovers which I think are Buick derivations.

I have a cobra kit with what started life as a 1973 Chevy 350 in it. Brilliant fun, but bikes are way quicker.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by nute:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by wymple:
Trying to move your goal post won't work. You've gone from 1 car to "not more than 2". Close enough for you, I guess.

wrong, a couple way
i said

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
most Americans don't have the luxury of having 2+ cars for the adults in the home,

so, no denial on the maths
reading might be a challenge

i put a turbo 3.8 buick in a TR-8 in the mid eighties, it was a blast, but when the boost came on, it just blew the tires off

as for fieros, i don't fit, i am too tall, and my head jams into the ceiling. though i've owned 2 of them, as I had dreams of building a convertible kitcar - same fitment in corvettes

I had a TR7 in the 80’s, bloody awful engine. Lots of people here put 3.0 V8’s in them from Rovers which I think are Buick derivations.

I have a cobra kit with what started life as a 1973 Chevy 350 in it. Brilliant fun, but bikes are way quicker.

Yes, the engine started out, way back when, as an all alum buick v8, which lead to the rover v8...

i had to have a "custom" flywheel made, and the car's power to weight was insane - was nice that the engine bolt pattern was the same. The only thing limiting top speed was the gearing. Well, that, and that i had to have the top down to fit - i'd hate to have hit a big beetle at some multiple of the posted speed limit.

there was a joke back then "how many tr8's does it take to drive across the US?" "All of them"