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Democrat whistleblower told FBI that Schiff okayed leaking classified intel to hurt Trump:
A career intelligence officer who worked for Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee for more than a decade repeatedly warned the FBI beginning in 2017 that then-Rep. Adam Schiff had approved leaking classified information to smear then-President Donald Trump over the now-debunked Russiagate scandal, according to bombshell FBI memos that Director Kash Patel has turned over to Congress.


https://x.com/realamvoice/stat...068768666706150?s=46

And the Biden DOJ looks the other way. Those who bit hook-line-and-sinker into Russia Collusion should be feeling remorse right now. 2020


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They dont.

Any means to am end.....
 
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Speaking of getting hoaxed....

>>>Real America's Voice has been described as a conservative[5] and right-wing[1] outlet. The network and online presences have promoted right-wing and far-right conspiracy theories, including COVID-19 misinformation, 2020 election conspiracies, and QAnon.[6][7][8]<<<

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_America%27s_Voice



 
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Hoaxed, remorseless, shameless.

I feel empathy for such people.

But I feel more empathy for us and others who endure them.

At least the worst are not ambiguous.

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https://youtube.com/shorts/lye...?si=CtRC7O9eaYYghDnI

Oh no, the Trump platform accidentally stopped lying


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Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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I come to read any post started by Lane.

I KNOW!

Yes KNOW with absolutely certainty, that it will put the blame of something on the democrats!

As my old frWalter used to say, when are in the toilet you nor smell shit! jumping


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The data released on Schiff is verifiable on multiple locations. He lied and committed criminal acts and ME is worried about the source I shared. Good heavens it is no wonder you hoaxed were hoaxed…y’all are a gullible lot…as long as it fits your narrative. Wink


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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I'm surprised that you haven't mentioned this:

AI Overview
Recent reports indicate that Senator Adam Schiff is currently under federal criminal investigation for alleged mortgage fraud related to properties he owns in Maryland and California.

Specifically, the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) has sent a criminal referral to the Department of Justice (DOJ) based on allegations that Schiff engaged in a "sustained pattern of possible occupancy misrepresentation" on five Fannie Mae loans.

This alleged misconduct could potentially violate federal laws against wire fraud, mail fraud, bank fraud, and making false statements to financial institutions.

However, it's important to note the following:

Investigation, not conviction: This is an ongoing investigation, and Schiff has not been formally charged or convicted of any crime.

Schiff denies wrongdoing: Schiff and his legal team have stated that the allegations are "transparently false, stale, and long debunked".

Political Context: These allegations have surfaced amidst strong political animosity, including accusations from former President Trump who has repeatedly called for Schiff's prosecution. Schiff has dismissed these as politically motivated attempts to silence him.

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But to the main question: Did Adam Schiff leak classified information and lie about it?

https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Republican-led House censures Rep. Schiff over Trump-Russia investigations
Politics Updated on Jun 21, 2023 9:06 PM EDT — Published on Jun 21, 2023 4:41 PM EDT

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/p...ussia-investigations


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
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Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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The data released on Schiff is verifiable on multiple locations. He lied and committed criminal acts and ME is worried about the source I shared. Good heavens it is no wonder you hoaxed were hoaxed…y’all are a gullible lot…as long as it fits your narrative. Wink


How many CRIMINAL ACTS does it take on to get CONVICTED 34 times as a felon?? rotflmo


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it is no wonder you hoaxed were hoaxed…y’all are a gullible lot…as long as it fits your narrative. Wink


If I have a narrative, it's whatever you claim, consider the opposite as the truth.


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Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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Wow. Lamont is putting all of his eggs in one big hoax basket. I can not wait to see how it all plays out. Knowing Lamont, he will deny ever pushing this hoax bullshit.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lMTrthePKU0
 
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If Schiff broke the law he should face the consequences.

Trump and his kids do themselves no favours however. In July 17 Trump jr, Kushner and manafort met with a Russian claiming to have damaging material on Clinton.

For about a year he, trump and the others denied any contact or any meetings again and again and again, fake news, even saying there are no depths the D's will not stoop to in making all this up.

Then it was, OK yes we did meet with a Russian blah blah it was about an adoption program for Russian kids, forced out of him after a story in the press.

Then it was OK, I did meet a Russian to hear about possibly damaging material on Clinton, but it was no big deal

Then it was OH crap I need to release the text of these emails showing that all of my comments denying the meeting were lies because the NYT is about to release them.
 
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Jonathan Turley:
While this is only the unverified allegation of a single former staffer, the alleged conduct would involve criminal and unethical conduct of the highest order, if proven.

What is clear is that someone is lying and someone is a felon. Either Schiff ordered the commission of a serious felony or this whistleblower made repeated false statements to the FBI. The public — and Congress — has every right to know the answer.


https://x.com/jonathanturley/s...223011931365826?s=46


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Turley receives his validation from one audience and can be counted on to spin and stir. He will never run out of fodder.

He's working for the Trump anointed office of Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda.

https://www.google.com/search?...gHJw&sclient=gws-wiz


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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Lane's choice of media outlets that he cites is interesting.....it's the one with zero fact checking. Anybody can post anything on X without attribution or support...or with the weakest attribution or support. The OP is a perfect example. America's Voice promotes Q-Anon, covid 19 nonsense and other factually unsupported bullshit conspiracy theories.

In other words, perfect for Lane. He posts up this nonsense and then runs away without ever trying to really defend any of it. I mean...it's on the internet. It must be true, right? He's followed his orange jesus so far down the rabbit-hole that the best he can do is throw up bizarre posts that are nothing but propaganda nonsense. Kinda sad really. He and I used to have some pretty good arguments. Now, he's become one of those folks you just dismiss as a nut.



 
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he's become one of those folks you just dismiss as a nut.


As in a long time ago
 
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Lane's choice of media outlets that he cites is interesting.....it's the one with zero fact checking. Anybody can post anything on X without attribution or support...or with the weakest attribution or support. The OP is a perfect example. America's Voice promotes Q-Anon, covid 19 nonsense and other factually unsupported bullshit conspiracy theories.

In other words, perfect for Lane. He posts up this nonsense and then runs away without ever trying to really defend any of it. I mean...it's on the internet. It must be true, right? He's followed his orange jesus so far down the rabbit-hole that the best he can do is throw up bizarre posts that are nothing but propaganda nonsense. Kinda sad really. He and I used to have some pretty good arguments. Now, he's become one of those folks you just dismiss as a nut.


rotflmo

Is that the best you can do Mike? Stick your head in the sand? Fingers in your ears screaming la la la la (or for you it is probably fuck fuck fuck).

The things I have posted are verifiable on multiple sources. Read Catherine Herridge for example on Schiff.

For those who pay attention…we have learned that the truth does not come out of network news or large corporate news. Those places all have their own agendas. The truth comes from independent reporting — actual reporters like Catherine Herridge, Matt Taibbi, Joe Rogan, and others.

Nut? Maybe. However in my book, you are the nut. Worse, you are part of the downgrade of the USA. People like you are the reason I stay active in politics. To keep y’all from ruining the greatest state and greatest country on earth for my kids. My life is made. I am coasting. I can do whatever my heart desires. I can stay away from you nuts and in Texas still…it is pretty easy. I stay active to preserve it for my kids.

I am very sorry you don’t litigate veterinary malpractice so maybe we could have met up across the deposition table. I would have enjoyed it. Wink

Just as I enjoyed rubbing all your noses in the shit of the “Russian collusion hoax.” How does it feel to be that stupid?


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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How does it feel to be that stupid?


I wouldn’t know, please share that personal insight with us.


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How does it feel to be that stupid?


I wouldn’t know, please share that personal insight with us.


Ah, yes, the rewording of that gradeschool taunt
"I am rubber, you are glue...."

How sophisticated


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Just as I enjoyed rubbing all your noses in the shit of the “Russian collusion hoax.” How does it feel to be that stupid?


Actually, this whole narrative came from Trump and amplified and parroted. Fox is the prime culprit.

It's not about MAGAts getting their jollies by goading liberals. Instead it's about doing real damage to the country, intentionally. Why?

It seems that the logical and simple conclusion to draw from this and many other examples is that Trump supporters just can't face reality.

It's kinda scary while also pitiful. One would think feeding them facts would have a positive effect, but they want a different fodder.

https://youtube.com/shorts/lye...?si=fYOHsgkjBWyKeanY

Oh no, the Trump platform accidentally stopped lying

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what is the Russian collusion hoax

AI Overview

The phrase "Russian collusion hoax" is used to refer to the idea that the investigation into potential ties between the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 US presidential election was a politically motivated fabrication.

Here's a breakdown of the key elements and perspectives surrounding this phrase:

The Collusion Investigation:
The central premise of the investigation, initially led by the FBI and later by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, was to determine if the Trump campaign had colluded or conspired with Russia to influence the 2016 election.

Mueller Report Findings:
The Mueller report concluded that while Russia did interfere in the election, there was insufficient evidence to establish that the Trump campaign had conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple attempts by Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the campaign.

"Hoax" Narrative:
Despite the Mueller report's findings, some Trump supporters and others continue to claim that the entire investigation was a politically motivated "hoax" designed to undermine the Trump presidency. They argue that the investigation was based on flawed or fabricated evidence, such as the Steele dossier, and that it was an attempt by political opponents to persecute Trump.

Counterarguments:
Critics of the "hoax" narrative point to the various investigations, including those by the US intelligence community and the Senate Intelligence Committee, which found that Russia did interfere in the 2016 election, according to NBC News and PBS. They also emphasize that the Mueller investigation, while not finding a criminal conspiracy, did detail extensive contacts between the Trump campaign and Russians and numerous instances of potential obstruction of justice by the president.

Ongoing Controversy:
The origins and findings of the Russia investigation remain a subject of political debate and continue to be investigated, even as recently as August 2025, according to Newsweek. New declassified materials and further inquiries are ongoing, adding to the layers of complexity surrounding the "Russian collusion hoax" discussion.

In essence, the "Russian collusion hoax" refers to the belief that the Russia investigation was a politically motivated fabrication, despite findings of Russian interference in the election and the lack of conclusive evidence of a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia.

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Note the use of the term "the lack of conclusive evidence of a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia". That means prosecutable evidence sufficient for a grand jury to recommend proceed with prosecution. The burden of proof is very high.

However there exists much evidence. In large part, Mueller couldn't get the proof he needed because of obstruction, especially Stone, Manafort, Gates, Page and others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...20summer%20of%202016.

Here's a very interesting segment from the Wikipedia link: Eric Prince

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...fficials#Erik_Prince

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Trump supporters and Trump claim vindication, which is a lie.

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Is there anything left to learn about the Russia investigation?
August 8, 20254:36 PM ET

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/08...russia-investigation

This interview makes the distinction between interference and collusion.

Excerpt:

DIRESTA: So most of the world expected Hillary Clinton to win in 2016. That was where the polling was. It was a surprise even here in the United States, if you recall. The allegation that Russia, quote, "wanted Hillary to win" hinges on one report that they declassified - an investigation run by Devin Nunes, who's now the CEO of Truth Social, who at the time ran the House Select Committee on Intelligence. Now, that investigation alleges that there is a tranche of emails held by Russian intelligence - the SVR specifically - that were - that are shockingly damaging to Hillary Clinton, that say that she was on all sorts of tranquilizers, that say that she has emotional problems.

So there is supposedly a collection of shocking emails that exists. Nobody has ever seen them, to be clear. But because Russia did not release these shocking emails that nobody has ever seen, that is the argument that they make to justify the fact that Russia wanted Hillary to win. Because they did not hurt her as much as they theoretically could have is the argument Gabbard and the others are making - that means that they could have wanted her to win.


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Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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Oh dear,

GOP Senators even agree Russia engaged in manipulation of the 2016 election.

Stone and Manfort did not go to prison for nothing.
 
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Stone and Manafort did not go to prison for nothing.


They weren't pardoned for nothing either.

Quid Pro Quo - they earned it.


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https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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There are multiple jurisdictions available in which Schiff could be prosecuted. The DOJ will chose one favoring the Gov’t. Shift will be indicted without the jury protection of California and I’d imagine he’ll be charged in several venues at the same time with a plan to overwhelm him with negative publicity, legal expenses, etc., as Biden and crew did to Trump. The gov’t has lots of bites of the apple available. Pam Bondi and Donald Trump will savor each one. What goes around comes around. 

If Schiff agrees early to a plea, he probably can have as conditions, no legislative office, maybe not lose his license to practice law in California and no jail time after paying a hefty fine . If he fights it, he’ll get the Federal guideline sentence.

In any event, he will get a lot of pressure from Democrats because his compatriots have not yet been caught and they want him gone now . They are quite aware that the more that the grand jury investigates, the more that they too will be exposed as manipulating the system to void an election. It’s really funny that Trump got impeached on some the same issues Schiff alleged/conspired to mislead the electorate.

He needs to go as quietly as he can. I’ll bet Obama, Biden’s controllers, Hillary, Comey and Deep State operatives are working a deal that makes Schiff the whipping boy for them all.


JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.
 
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There are multiple jurisdictions available in which Schiff could be prosecuted. The DOJ will chose one favoring the Gov’t. Shift will be indicted without the jury protection of California and I’d imagine he’ll be charged in several venues at the same time with a plan to overwhelm him with negative publicity, legal expenses, etc., as Biden and crew did to Trump. The gov’t has lots of bites of the apple available. Pam Bondi and Donald Trump will savor each one. What goes around comes around. 

If Schiff agrees early to a plea, he probably can have as conditions, no legislative office, maybe not lose his license to practice law in California and no jail time after paying a hefty fine . If he fights it, he’ll get the Federal guideline sentence.

In any event, he will get a lot of pressure from Democrats because his compatriots have not yet been caught and they want him gone now . They are quite aware that the more that the grand jury investigates, the more that they too will be exposed as manipulating the system to void an election. It’s really funny that Trump got impeached on some the same issues Schiff alleged/conspired to mislead the electorate.

He needs to go as quietly as he can. I’ll bet Obama, Biden’s controllers, Hillary, Comey and Deep State operatives are working a deal that makes Schiff the whipping boy for them all.


Tinpot dictator shit. trump using the United States Department of Justice for political retribution. He's doing it to Leticia James too for having the gall to put your liar/conman in front of a jury and secure dozens of felony convictions against him for his fraudulent misconduct.

trump continues his efforts to turn our country into a third world banana republic and his knucklehead supporters enable and cheer it on. Sad.



 
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I’m trying to remember - how many times did Trump hide behind the Fifth Amendment?
 
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Damn… of course they did. No one has denied that. It’s not even the issue.
The criminal enterprise was in the agreement of Obama, Schiff the CIA, Hillary, the DNC, a purely partisan Jan 6th committee, etc. to create a false scenario that would accuse Trump of Russian collusion to pervert election results and failing that, claim that Russian influence (though a figment of the conspirators treasonous intent) should void the will of the electorate.

Yep, Russia tried. Russia failed. Messiah Obama took up Russia’s and Hillary’s scheme and successfully delayed Trumps re-election.

It’s not just dirty politics. It’s a criminal enterprise.

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Oh dear,

GOP Senators even agree Russia engaged in manipulation of the 2016 election.

Stone and Manfort did not go to prison for nothing.


JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.
 
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Regardless.

THE ORANGE MAGA TURD is NitanHitler’s PUPPET!

SHAME ON AMERICA! rotflmo


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Damn… of course they did. No one has denied that. It’s not even the issue.
The criminal enterprise was in the agreement of Obama, Schiff the CIA, Hillary, the DNC, a purely partisan Jan 6th committee, etc. to create a false scenario that would accuse Trump of Russian collusion to pervert election results and failing that, claim that Russian influence (though a figment of the conspirators treasonous intent) should void the will of the electorate.

Yep, Russia tried. Russia failed. Messiah Obama took up Russia’s and Hillary’s scheme and successfully delayed Trumps re-election.

It’s not just dirty politics. It’s a criminal enterprise.

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Oh dear,

GOP Senators even agree Russia engaged in manipulation of the 2016 election.

Stone and Manfort did not go to prison for nothing.


Judge, that's the fullest crock of bullshit I've seen since Lane posted.

What's especially impressive is how you work both Obama (the hated black) and Hillary (the detested woman) into your unsupported, absurd conspiracy.
 
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Damn… of course they did. No one has denied that. It’s not even the issue.
The criminal enterprise was in the agreement of Obama, Schiff the CIA, Hillary, the DNC, a purely partisan Jan 6th committee, etc. to create a false scenario that would accuse Trump of Russian collusion to pervert election results and failing that, claim that Russian influence (though a figment of the conspirators treasonous intent) should void the will of the electorate.

Yep, Russia tried. Russia failed. Messiah Obama took up Russia’s and Hillary’s scheme and successfully delayed Trumps re-election.

It’s not just dirty politics. It’s a criminal enterprise.

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Oh dear,

GOP Senators even agree Russia engaged in manipulation of the 2016 election.

Stone and Manfort did not go to prison for nothing.


Judge, that's the fullest crock of bullshit I've seen since Lane posted.

What's especially impressive is how you work both Obama (the hated black) and Hillary (the detested woman) into your unsupported, absurd conspiracy.


roland hates both blacks and women -- see little jimmy's own words

only a deMS13 could even conceive this


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Damn… of course they did. No one has denied that. It’s not even the issue.
The criminal enterprise was in the agreement of Obama, Schiff the CIA, Hillary, the DNC, a purely partisan Jan 6th committee, etc. to create a false scenario that would accuse Trump of Russian collusion to pervert election results and failing that, claim that Russian influence (though a figment of the conspirators treasonous intent) should void the will of the electorate.

Yep, Russia tried. Russia failed. Messiah Obama took up Russia’s and Hillary’s scheme and successfully delayed Trumps re-election.

It’s not just dirty politics. It’s a criminal enterprise.

quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
Oh dear,

GOP Senators even agree Russia engaged in manipulation of the 2016 election.

Stone and Manfort did not go to prison for nothing.


Judge, that's the fullest crock of bullshit I've seen since Lane posted.

What's especially impressive is how you work both Obama (the hated black) and Hillary (the detested woman) into your unsupported, absurd conspiracy.


roland hates both blacks and women -- see little jimmy's own words

only a deMS13 could even conceive this


Jeff, I don't think there's any evidence that Roland hates blacks and women. The contrary is correct.

You ought to back up a little bit.



 
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You’re my friend, Saeed, but the answer is zero. There was never proven by a unanimous jury that any required one or more of the four alleged crimes precedent was committed.

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How many CRIMINAL ACTS does it take on to get CONVICTED 34 times as a felon?? rotflmo


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You’re my friend, Saeed, but the answer is zero. There was never proven by a unanimous jury that any required one or more of the four alleged crimes precedent was committed.

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How many CRIMINAL ACTS does it take on to get CONVICTED 34 times as a felon?? rotflmo



That reply seems bizarre to me.

Was trump convicted by unanimous jury of crimes?

AI Overview
Donald Trump was convicted in New York by a unanimous jury on all 34 counts of falsifying business records to conceal a hush-money payment to adult-film star Stormy Daniels during the 2016 presidential campaign. The jury's verdict was unanimous on all counts.

However, there were some nuances regarding the jury instructions. To elevate the charges from a misdemeanor to a felony, the prosecution had to show that the falsified business records were intended to conceal another crime. The judge informed the jury that they did not need to agree unanimously on which specific underlying crime (out of a few possibilities presented by the prosecution) Trump intended to conceal, as long as they all agreed that he intended to conceal a crime. Despite this, the jury's verdict on each of the 34 counts of falsifying business records was unanimous.


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1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

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No, he wasn’t. The trial judge instructed the jury that they needed not have a unanimous verdict on a crime precedent but that if any combination of 12 on any of the alleged four requisite crimes was okay. In other words, 3 jurors could think Crime one was proven and 9 did not. 9 jurors could not believe Crime 2 was proven but three (who didn’t believe Crime one wasn’t proven) did… so we now have 6 who believe different crimes were committed. No one believes crime three was committed and 6 jurors who didn’t believe one, two or three believed four was committed. Somehow the trial judge says it’s okay to add up the votes and as long as 12 is the sum. So, with the Trump verdict, no one can ever tell you or me of what Crime Trump was unanimously convicted that changed time expired misdemeanors into 34 felonies.

Left out of your AI report is the 34 felonies could not be prosecuted until and unless one of the Four precedent crimes were proven. The judge basically said if you can come up with any combination of 12 votes, unanimity is not required.


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Earnest, don't confuse them with facts.

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No, he wasn’t. The trial judge instructed the jury that they needed not have a unanimous verdict on a crime precedent but that if any combination of 12 on any of the alleged four requisite crimes was okay. In other words, 3 jurors could think Crime one was proven and 9 did not. 9 jurors could not believe Crime 2 was proven but three (who didn’t believe Crime one wasn’t proven) did… so we now have 6 who believe different crimes were committed. No one believes crime three was committed and 6 jurors who didn’t believe one, two or three believed four was committed. Somehow the trial judge says it’s okay to add up the votes and as long as 12 is the sum. So, with the Trump verdict, no one can ever tell you or me of what Crime Trump was unanimously convicted that changed time expired misdemeanors into 34 felonies.

Left out of your AI report is the 34 felonies could not be prosecuted until and unless one of the Four precedent crimes were proven. The judge basically said if you can come up with any combination of 12 votes, unanimity is not required.


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What was Trump convicted of? Details on the 34 counts and his guilty verdict
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Updated on: June 3, 2024 / 9:27 AM EDT / CBS News

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What was Trump convicted of?
Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a felony in New York. He pleaded not guilty when he was arraigned last year.

In 2017, Cohen and Allen Weisselberg, an executive at the Trump Organization, reached an agreement about how Cohen would be repaid for the $130,000 that he sent to Daniels in exchange for her silence. Weisselberg detailed the calculations in handwritten notes that were shown to the jury at trial.

Cohen would receive $130,000 for the Daniels payment, plus $50,000 intended for a technology company that did unrelated work for Trump. That amount was doubled to account for taxes that Cohen would have to pay on the income. Weisselberg then tacked on an extra $60,000 as a bonus for Cohen, who was upset that his regular year-end award had been cut. The total worked out to $420,000.

Cohen would be paid in a series of monthly payments of $35,000 over the course of 2017. The first check was for $70,000, covering two months. Cohen sent an invoice to the Trump Organization for each check, portraying the payment as his "retainer." Every time he was paid, a bookkeeper generated a record for the company's files, known as a voucher, with the description "legal expense." The first three payments were made from Trump's trust, while the remaining nine came from his personal account.

Each of the 34 charges against Trump corresponded to a check, invoice and voucher generated to reimburse Cohen. The prosecution laid out the charges in a chart that jurors saw several times during the trial:

(charts and evidence are shown in the article)

Prosecutors said Trump knew the payments were to reimburse Cohen for the Daniels payment, not for his legal expenses.

The jury voted to convict on all 34 counts. As Trump looked on, the court's clerk asked the foreperson of the jury for the verdict.

"How say you to the first count of the indictment, charging Donald J. Trump with the crime of falsifying business records in the first degree, guilty or not guilty?" the clerk asked.

"Guilty," the foreperson responded, repeating the answer 33 more times.

Why were the charges a felony?
Under New York law, falsification of business records is a crime when the records are altered with an intent to defraud. To be charged as a felony, prosecutors must also show that the offender intended to "commit another crime" or "aid or conceal" another crime when falsifying records.

In Trump's case, prosecutors said that other crime was a violation of a New York election law that makes it illegal for "any two or more persons" to "conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means," as Justice Juan Merchan explained in his instructions to the jury.

What exactly those "unlawful means" were in this case was up to the jury to decide. Prosecutors put forth three areas that they could consider: a violation of federal campaign finance laws, falsification of other business records or a violation of tax laws.

Jurors did not need to agree on what the underlying "unlawful means" were. But they did have to unanimously conclude that Trump caused the business records to be falsified, and that he "did so with intent to defraud that included an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof."

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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/s...20Brangham%20reports.

How Trump avoided punishment for his felony convictions
Jan 10, 2025 6:40 PM EDT

Excerpt:

William Brangham:

He fought this in every legal avenue that he could, as is his right. He appealed it to this judge. He appealed it to an appeals court in New York. He even appealed it this week to the U.S. Supreme Court, which rejected it last night in a 5-4 vote.


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1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

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Was impeached twice??


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No, he wasn’t. The trial judge instructed the jury that they needed not have a unanimous verdict on a crime precedent but that if any combination of 12 on any of the alleged four requisite crimes was okay. In other words, 3 jurors could think Crime one was proven and 9 did not. 9 jurors could not believe Crime 2 was proven but three (who didn’t believe Crime one wasn’t proven) did… so we now have 6 who believe different crimes were committed. No one believes crime three was committed and 6 jurors who didn’t believe one, two or three believed four was committed. Somehow the trial judge says it’s okay to add up the votes and as long as 12 is the sum. So, with the Trump verdict, no one can ever tell you or me of what Crime Trump was unanimously convicted that changed time expired misdemeanors into 34 felonies.

Left out of your AI report is the 34 felonies could not be prosecuted until and unless one of the Four precedent crimes were proven. The judge basically said if you can come up with any combination of 12 votes, unanimity is not required.


How can the justice system in a western nation operate like this? I’m not contradicting you, I just cannot believe that something like this which sounds like it might operate in Zimbabwe can actually be true of the US.

Why wouldn’t the defendants lawyers immediately appeal? Can you seek judicial review over there ?
 
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I’m not contradicting you,... Why wouldn’t the defendants lawyers immediately appeal? Can you seek judicial review over there?


He did appeal all the way to SCOTUS, and lost.

See my post above, the part in bold.

And you should be contradicting anything the Judge has to say. It's all lies.


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1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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This issue and removal to Federal Court appeals have not been decided

https://www.justsecurity.org/9...p-unanimous-verdict/


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Status: A decision from the 2nd Circuit panel is still pending, but they acknowledged the case was "extraordinary" and "highly unusual" during the hearing.

Significance of removal (if successful):
If Trump's efforts to move the case to federal court were to succeed, it could potentially allow him, as president, to intervene in the case or even dismiss it. However, legal experts have noted that even if moved to federal court, it would likely still be considered a state conviction, making the impact on his ability to pardon himself less clear.

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Also: was trump's conviction in NY appealed to the supreme court?

https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Supreme Court allows Trump’s New York criminal sentencing to go forward
By Amy Howe
on Jan 10, 2025

https://www.scotusblog.com/202...ntencing%20put%20off.

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The latest articles on this seem to be around June of 2025

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https://youtu.be/sKIGbcnGGBI?si=TZmbjscBk6o0N0M8

2 months ago
A federal appeals court heard arguments Wednesday as part of President Trump's attempt to get his "hush money" verdict overturned.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/0....html?smid=url-share

Trump and His Allies Push False Account of What the Judge Told Jurors
A tweet from a Fox News anchor falsely said that the jury would not have to settle unanimously on a charge to find the former president guilty.

May 30, 2024


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Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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