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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I doubt the governor has the authority to force or remove legislatures.

Abbot is relying on an AG opinion from Paxton who opined a court could sanction the governor so removing.

I do not know. Without a law that says one has to go, what authority says they cannot refuse to cons to the Special called session?



Funny, your comment has nothing to do w what I said.

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Originally posted by Brian Canada:

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How about just fuck you Mike?

Spoken by a true Christian.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I doubt the governor has the authority to force or remove legislatures.

Abbot is relying on an AG opinion from Paxton who opined a court could sanction the governor so removing.

I do not know. Without a law that says one has to go, what authority says they cannot refuse to cons to the Special called session?



Funny, your comment has nothing to do w what I said.

"We must follow the process" LHyeym - 2025
"I was only following orders" Nuremberg 1945

Just a reminder - title topic is "Republicans are issuing arrest warrants" for cowards that are trampling the democratic process -- the process was added in 2021, after the last time the cowards ran away ---

The SotH has authority to issue arrest warrants -
the process IS the law, yeah? sound familiar? Outcome are "unimportant" in your words -

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Hah! The fundamental founding principle of out nation is due process, the rule of law being compared to Nazis Germany by the Texas Contingent.

If the Dems by law have to attend the special called session, so be it. The only authority cited by the Gov is an AG opinion by Paxton that says the court can decide. So, let the court decide.

Your idiocy is non-responsive.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
You have slipped into pure stupid stage.

Due Process is the funding principle.

One will not be deprived of liberty, property, nor life without due process.

The Gov of Texas without a due authority cannot remove these Representatives. The courts can figure that out.

The simple answer was to pass a statute making this behavior sanctionable.

You really have slipped into stupid.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I doubt the governor has the authority to force or remove legislatures.

Abbot is relying on an AG opinion from Paxton who opined a court could sanction the governor so removing.

I do not know. Without a law that says one has to go, what authority says they cannot refuse to cons to the Special called session?



Funny, your comment has nothing to do w what I said.

"We must follow the process" LHyeym - 2025
"I was only following orders" Nuremberg 1945

Just a reminder - title topic is "Republicans are issuing arrest warrants" for cowards that are trampling the democratic process -- the process was added in 2021, after the last time the cowards ran away ---

The SotH has authority to issue arrest warrants -
the process IS the law, yeah? sound familiar? Outcome are "unimportant" in your words -

Lefties only care about "process" or law when it suits them or their agenda.....

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Originally posted by MJines:
Newsom announces that California is going to proceed with mid-decade redistricting. Surely since Abbott, Trump and the MAGAt GOP were playing 3-dimensional chess, they understood that other states were not just going to sit idly by and let Texas try to skew the mix in DC.

JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
California will redraw its districts putting 5 GOP seats on the block.

Let’s not forget Democrats put forward legislation for a non partisan solution to gerrymandering at the Federal Election level.

The GOP blocked it.

https://marylandmatters.org/20...U.S.%20Senate%20)%20.


https://time.com/7309565/ameri...ndering-problem-fix/

The bill

https://www.congress.gov/bill/...ongress/house-bill/1

The Supreme Court has held multiple times that racial gerrymandering is unconstitutional. The Supreme Court has never held partisan gerrymandering to be unconstitutional.
1986 case, Davis v. Bandemer, the Court ruled that partisan gerrymandering in state legislative redistricting is justiciable under the Equal Protection Clause.

Although the vote was 6-3 in favor of justiciability, a majority of the Justices could not agree on the proper test for determining whether the particular gerrymandering in this case was unconstitutional and reversed the lower court’s holding of unconstitutionality by a vote of 7-2.

Therefore, partisan gerrymandering is currently constitutional, cannot stray into racial gerrymandering.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
My response is clear.

Partisan Gerrymandering, as opposed to racial gerrymandering, as of 1986 is constitutionally permitted by our federal Constitution.

All Texas has done is create a race to the bottom as other states will engage to partisan gerrymander existing districts putting GOP House and state Legislatures seats in the block.

Have at it. Right now partisan gerrymandering does not violate the Federal Constitution as amended by the 14th Amendment.

I think the Supreme Court in 2020 held partisan gerrymandering cannot even be challenged in Federal Court. I believe that case, I remember old stuff better than new stuff, held partisan gerrymandering was a political question that presented no legal issue from the Constitution.

Partisan Gerrymandering cannot slip into racial gerrymandering. That would trigger a constitutional violation via the 14th Amendment.

Therefore, due process permits Texas action subject to obtaining a mandatory quorum. Likewise, other states redrawing bases on partisan gerrymandering is constitutional to kill off GOP seats in those states.

Whether this activation of MAD doctrine would force this Majority to overdo those two main precedents seen above is unclear and unknown. My money says no.

In conclusion, push the red button. Other states will and are retaliating in kind. It will all be currently, federally legal. The net gain for the GOO who started this will be zero at the Federal level. Maybe worse if folks get a bad taste in their mouth about this blatant partisan power grab the GOP started. Bad policy can be constitutional.

Now, why am I saying federally legal? The Constitution and the above precedent ls applying the 14th Amendment does not address state laws and state constitutions. A state has to give at least the due process mandated by the 14th Amendment. However, a state is always free to give more due process rights. A state law or state constitution could be used to invalidate this action assuming a state law or state constitution has so engaged. That would be decided by state courts. Assuming a state last court of reprieve holds Article whatever of the state’s constitution bars partisan gerrymandering, the Fed Courts thanks to the 2020 case would not be able to hear an appeal unless that precedent is modified, distinguished based on the facts to or overturned.

I support the bill I posted above to address districting on federal elections. I cannot in good faith read any precedent that grants power to the Federal Government to address partisan gerrymandering in state elections only by legislation. I understand that would have the potential to create two voting districts one Fed and one state when a fed office is on the ballot.

To underscore, partisan gerrymandering that can be challenged, slips into racial gerrymandering is going to create a justiciable question through the 14th Amendment.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
My message has been stated 2x now.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I know understanding caselaw and due process is hard for you.

There is no mistake in my statement.

You may want to clarify dem13.

For the third time I’ll state my positions using as smallest words possible for the Texas Contingent:
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