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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
That is just it. Grassley himself is NOT an unreliable source and his allegations (to the best of my recollection…correct me by example if you can) always bear out to be substantiated.

MM made the same case over the 1023. It bore out that there was indeed a 1023 as described.

Grassley’s reputation is clean. Prove me wrong.

When he makes a statement…he has usually seen the evidence.

You keep saying this and I don't know what you're talking about. I refute so much of your bullshit that sometimes I lose track. Cite me up. I'll be happy to acknowledge it if I was wrong.

http://forums.accuratereloadin...251065472#5251065472

Go back and read it again, Lane. I was referring to the affidavit, not the 1023. Anybody with the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader would be able to see that.

MM

You and TW were questioning whether the 1023 existed. To say otherwise is pure spin.

The 1023 did exist. Obviously if we could read the 1023…answers to you other questions in that thread would likely be clear.

Either you linked me to the wrong page or we have moved into the realm of outright lies by you. There's nothing on that page about me saying the 10-23 doesn't exist. I asked you to prove the existence of the affidavit.

Do you even understand what a 10-23 is?

Did you send me the wrong link? Or, has it all just been a lie from the beginning and you didn't think I'd call you on it?

Pretty sad, man.

At the time…you were questioning whether or not the 10 23 existed. It did. Grassley new it did when he and Comer wrote the letter.

Your spin is what is pathetic.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
That is just it. Grassley himself is NOT an unreliable source and his allegations (to the best of my recollection…correct me by example if you can) always bear out to be substantiated.

MM made the same case over the 1023. It bore out that there was indeed a 1023 as described.

Grassley’s reputation is clean. Prove me wrong.

When he makes a statement…he has usually seen the evidence.

You keep saying this and I don't know what you're talking about. I refute so much of your bullshit that sometimes I lose track. Cite me up. I'll be happy to acknowledge it if I was wrong.

http://forums.accuratereloadin...251065472#5251065472

Go back and read it again, Lane. I was referring to the affidavit, not the 1023. Anybody with the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader would be able to see that.

MM

You and TW were questioning whether the 1023 existed. To say otherwise is pure spin.

The 1023 did exist. Obviously if we could read the 1023…answers to you other questions in that thread would likely be clear.

Either you linked me to the wrong page or we have moved into the realm of outright lies by you. There's nothing on that page about me saying the 10-23 doesn't exist. I asked you to prove the existence of the affidavit.

Do you even understand what a 10-23 is?

Did you send me the wrong link? Or, has it all just been a lie from the beginning and you didn't think I'd call you on it?

Pretty sad, man.

At the time…you were questioning whether or not the 10 23 existed. It did. Grassley new it did when he and Comer wrote the letter.

Your spin is what is pathetic.

Without spinning our words and obfuscating things by inserting nuggets of truth, they try to justify any position.

Reductio ad absurdum.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
That is just it. Grassley himself is NOT an unreliable source and his allegations (to the best of my recollection…correct me by example if you can) always bear out to be substantiated.

MM made the same case over the 1023. It bore out that there was indeed a 1023 as described.

Grassley’s reputation is clean. Prove me wrong.

When he makes a statement…he has usually seen the evidence.

You keep saying this and I don't know what you're talking about. I refute so much of your bullshit that sometimes I lose track. Cite me up. I'll be happy to acknowledge it if I was wrong.

http://forums.accuratereloadin...251065472#5251065472

Go back and read it again, Lane. I was referring to the affidavit, not the 1023. Anybody with the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader would be able to see that.

MM

You and TW were questioning whether the 1023 existed. To say otherwise is pure spin.

The 1023 did exist. Obviously if we could read the 1023…answers to you other questions in that thread would likely be clear.

Either you linked me to the wrong page or we have moved into the realm of outright lies by you. There's nothing on that page about me saying the 10-23 doesn't exist. I asked you to prove the existence of the affidavit.

Do you even understand what a 10-23 is?

Did you send me the wrong link? Or, has it all just been a lie from the beginning and you didn't think I'd call you on it?

Pretty sad, man.

At the time…you were questioning whether or not the 10 23 existed. It did. Grassley new it did when he and Comer wrote the letter.

Your spin is what is pathetic.

Without spinning our words and obfuscating things by inserting nuggets of truth, they try to justify any position.

Reductio ad absurdum.

What’s next, they’ll attempt to prove Russia collusion actually occurred?

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Originally posted by regor:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
That is just it. Grassley himself is NOT an unreliable source and his allegations (to the best of my recollection…correct me by example if you can) always bear out to be substantiated.

MM made the same case over the 1023. It bore out that there was indeed a 1023 as described.

Grassley’s reputation is clean. Prove me wrong.

When he makes a statement…he has usually seen the evidence.

You keep saying this and I don't know what you're talking about. I refute so much of your bullshit that sometimes I lose track. Cite me up. I'll be happy to acknowledge it if I was wrong.

http://forums.accuratereloadin...251065472#5251065472

Go back and read it again, Lane. I was referring to the affidavit, not the 1023. Anybody with the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader would be able to see that.

MM

You and TW were questioning whether the 1023 existed. To say otherwise is pure spin.

The 1023 did exist. Obviously if we could read the 1023…answers to you other questions in that thread would likely be clear.

Either you linked me to the wrong page or we have moved into the realm of outright lies by you. There's nothing on that page about me saying the 10-23 doesn't exist. I asked you to prove the existence of the affidavit.

Do you even understand what a 10-23 is?

Did you send me the wrong link? Or, has it all just been a lie from the beginning and you didn't think I'd call you on it?

Pretty sad, man.

At the time…you were questioning whether or not the 10 23 existed. It did. Grassley new it did when he and Comer wrote the letter.

Your spin is what is pathetic.

Without spinning our words and obfuscating things by inserting nuggets of truth, they try to justify any position.

Reductio ad absurdum.

What’s next, they’ll attempt to prove Russia collusion actually occurred?

It didn't? I think I hear something squeezing.

They should have booted Trump for obstruction.
But Shiff repeated and added to the Steele files as proof. What Shiff didnt use from the files, he made up, and later claimed to be "paraphrasing".
He's as slimy a politician as Trump. He even looks like a weasle. You are claiming the Durham report is false if you believe Shiff.

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What’s next, they’ll attempt to prove Russia collusion actually occurred?

"They" did that already, and succeeded. For way too many there is no amount of evidence sufficient to change their minds.

Heck, there's Russian Collusion right here on this forum, with the propaganda and disinformation amuck. Russian Collusion is a constant stream of consciousness not only in cyberspace, but all active fronts, anywhere there are willing agents.

Maybe it's an honor that this humble forum is deemed worthy of trolling, spewing Russian disinformation and propaganda.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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What’s next, they’ll attempt to prove Russia collusion actually occurred?

"They" did that already, and succeeded. For way too many there is no amount of evidence sufficient to change their minds.

hahahahahaha my fucking sides hahahahahaha!!!!

TDS level derangement that is off the charts!!!!


What’s next, Carter Page is a Russian asset and someone pee pee’d on a hotel mattress Mangina?

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

Heck, there's Russian Collusion right here on this forum, with the propaganda and disinformation amuck. Russian Collusion is a constant stream of consciousness not only in cyberspace, but all active fronts, anywhere there are willing agents.

Maybe it's an honor that this humble forum is deemed worthy of trolling, spewing Russian disinformation and propaganda.

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Originally posted by regor:

What’s next, Carter Page is a Russian asset?

Carter Page is history.

You are present; a Russian Asset, as is most of the GOP.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...6d2c2a2dc4a87b&ei=12

Putin’s Ukraine War Is About Way More Than Bombs and Tanks
Story by Peter Suciu • 2h ago

Did somebody leave the screen door open again?

I could swear I heard a blow fly buzzing - you know, the kind that leaves MAGAts wherever they go.

Swat that bastard, would you?

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:
Did somebody leave the screen door open again?

I could swear I heard a blow fly buzzing - you know, the kind that leaves MAGAts wherever they go.

Swat that bastard, would you?

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

Heck, there's Russian Collusion right here on this forum, with the propaganda and disinformation amuck. Russian Collusion is a constant stream of consciousness not only in cyberspace, but all active fronts, anywhere there are willing agents.

Maybe it's an honor that this humble forum is deemed worthy of trolling, spewing Russian disinformation and propaganda.

quote:

Originally posted by regor:

What’s next, Carter Page is a Russian asset?

Carter Page is history.

You are present; a Russian Asset, as is most of the GOP.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...6d2c2a2dc4a87b&ei=12

Putin’s Ukraine War Is About Way More Than Bombs and Tanks
Story by Peter Suciu • 2h ago

NOW the GOP is Russian agents!!!!




Get your meds adjusted Mangina!!!!

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Originally posted by regor:

quote:

Originally posted by Tumbleweed:
Did somebody leave the screen door open again?

I could swear I heard a blow fly buzzing - you know, the kind that leaves MAGAts wherever they go.

Swat that bastard, would you?

your killin me.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by regor:

quote:

Originally posted by Tumbleweed:
Did somebody leave the screen door open again?

I could swear I heard a blow fly buzzing - you know, the kind that leaves MAGAts wherever they go.

Swat that bastard, would you?

your killin me.

These motherf'ers are as dumb as a stick!!!

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KNOW the GOP is Russian agents!!!!

I didn't say they are Russian Agents.

I said they are Russian Assets.

You may be both.

An Asset to Putin is anyone who does and says stuff that is an affront to the Founder's Dream, with intent to undermine it, regardless of claims to the contrary.

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Originally posted by regor:


What’s next, they’ll attempt to prove Russia collusion actually occurred?

Maybe lol,
but considering the fact that James Comey has stated in no uncertain terms that nobody can do the job and no one is qualified for the job except Joe Biden, I think what is more likely to
happen next is the DNC apparatus and opposition research will manufacture some more
russia russia Rrrrussia bullschiff to pin on Robert F. Kennedy, claiming he's Putin's puppet...


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quote:

Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:

quote:

Originally posted by regor:


What’s next, they’ll attempt to prove Russia collusion actually occurred?

Maybe lol,
but considering the fact that James Comey has stated in no uncertain terms that nobody can do the job and no one is qualified for the job except Joe Biden, I think what is more likely to
happen next is the DNC apparatus and opposition research will manufacture some more
russia russia Rrrrussia bullshiff to pin on Robert F. Kennedy, claiming he's Putin's puppet...


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That's the playbook and their mentally challenged sheep will lap it all up!!!

Lap this - dogs of lies:

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...ace-has-be-joe-biden

Ex-FBI director James Comey on 2024 race: 'It has to be Joe Biden'
Former FBI Director James Comey claims Russia wants to see Donald Trump return to the White House

By Danielle Wallace | Fox News


"Should we expect Russia to interfere on his behalf in 2024?" Psaki asked Comey.

"Yes, of course," Comey said. "Vladmir Putin does not want Joe Biden to be president of the United States for reasons that I hope the American people see because he acts in our national interests. He would very much like Donald Trump to be president again because Donald Trump – for reasons I still can’t explain – very, very fond of Vladmir Putin. And so they will find ways to interfere. I hope our intelligence community is equipped to respond maybe better than we did in 2016. But they’ll come for this election."

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Lap, this - dogs of lies:

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...ace-has-be-joe-biden

Ex-FBI director James Comey on 2024 race: 'It has to be Joe Biden'
Former FBI Director James Comey claims Russia wants to see Donald Trump return to the White House

By Danielle Wallace | Fox News

Faux News AND Comey...........HO LEE FUK somebody get a 5150 call in over in Manginaville, we're about to lose him!!!

quote:

Originally posted by regor:

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Lap, this - dogs of lies:

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...ace-has-be-joe-biden

Ex-FBI director James Comey on 2024 race: 'It has to be Joe Biden'
Former FBI Director James Comey claims Russia wants to see Donald Trump return to the White House

By Danielle Wallace | Fox News

Faux News AND Comey...........HO LEE FUK somebody get a 5150 call in over in Manginaville, we're about to lose him!!!

LMAO...Microsoft News feed must be down...

Don't click on the Fox link magine you'll get a virus!


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https://www.politico.com/news/...-indictment-00101971

Hutchinson: I won’t vote for Trump if he is convicted

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-t...port-nomin-rcna89479

Two GOP presidential candidates leave wiggle room in pledge to support nominee
The Republican National Committee has made the pledge one of the criteria to qualify for inclusion in the party's presidential debates.

The party’s base is rallying behind a frontrunner facing possible jail time.

"I'll be on the debate stage, and I will take the pledge that the RNC puts in front of me just as seriously as Donald Trump did eight years ago," Christie said, saying that Trump "absolutely disregarded" the pledge in 2016 and faced no punishment.

During the first debate of the 2016 GOP nomination, Trump was the only candidate on the debate stage not to rule out the prospect of a third-party bid if he didn't secure the nomination.

He ultimately signed a pledge to support the party's nominee. But in February 2016, Trump called the Republican National Committee "in default on their pledge" before saying in March he didn't plan to abide by the pledge "anymore."

Hutchinson, who previously served as governor of Arkansas, suggested in early June that he would sign the RNC's pledge, telling NBC News' Vaughn Hillyard: "I will do what we need to do to get on the debate."

If you are not tuned in to Fox News, Newsmax, Tucker on Twitter etc., how can you keep up with the most recent conspiracy theories? Must see TV I tell you. Now would be a good time for one of to mention media bias

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Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:

LMAO...Microsoft News feed must be down...

Don't click on the Fox link magine you'll get a virus!


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The "News" feed is alive and well.

https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz#ip=1

I could have chosen from several sources but chose Fox, hoping for some shock value, because it's favored by the brainwashed.

If I did that Steve, I would need a conspiracy therapist like 2 folks in this thread...

Thanks for the suggestion, but no thanks.

Its not that I don't understand that differing media Outlets have differing thresholds for veracity, it's that I do not consider those Outlets news. They're opinionists, selling ad space.

I prefer to glean my current events elsewhere, and where possible straight from the horse's mouth.

Not that I don't look at a wide compilation to get a sense of what differing views have to offer, I do. However, much of the time what I find is, as you have alluded, bias.

Frankly, I find no difference between "The View" and "The Five" besides the fact that I would rather stick forks in my eyes than look at that hideous Joy Behar.


.

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

quote:

Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:

LMAO...Microsoft News feed must be down...

Don't click on the Fox link magine you'll get a virus!


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The "News" feed is alive and well.

https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz#ip=1

I could have chosen from several sources but chose Fox, hoping for some shock value, because it's favored by the brainwashed.

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I would need a conspiracy therapist like 2 folks in this thread...

Therapy is no help with or for Russian Assets.

They might believe in conspiracy theories, and promote them - who knows? It's just one tool.

But their playbook is broader than that, with calculated intent.

Anything to cast doubt, spew disinformation and propaganda, help cause chaos, undermine whatever integrity there is left - that's the mission.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

quote:

I would need a conspiracy therapist like 2 folks in this thread...

Therapy is no help with Russian Assets.

They might believe in conspiracy theories, and promote them - who knows? It's just one tool.

But their playbook is broader than that, with calculated intent.

Anything to cast doubt, spew disinformation and propaganda, help cause chaos, undermine whatever integrity there is left - that's the mission.

I'm not spreading disinformation clown, I ruining your indoctrination and punching you imbeciles in the mouth!!!

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I'm not spreading disinformation clown, I ruining your indoctrination and punching you imbeciles in the mouth!!!

You're dreaming.

And, you can spread disinformation only as far as we buy into it.

And you're not punching anyone's mouth or buttons (favorably) except maybe a guy who calls himself Steve.

We take your own word exactly for what they are. You represent yourself very well.

One thing I think you don't get, yet, is that most people value their credibility herein, and are careful with their words.

You ain't that.

Another thing, most herein aren't influenced regarding their credibility (their own view or others) with insults and especially name calling from some newbe troll.

If attacking credibility is the playbook, you are an easy target.

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Originally posted by regor:

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

quote:

I would need a conspiracy therapist like 2 folks in this thread...

Therapy is no help with Russian Assets.

They might believe in conspiracy theories, and promote them - who knows? It's just one tool.

But their playbook is broader than that, with calculated intent.

Anything to cast doubt, spew disinformation and propaganda, help cause chaos, undermine whatever integrity there is left - that's the mission.

I'm not spreading disinformation clown, I ruining your indoctrination and punching you imbeciles in the mouth!!!

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

Anything to cast doubt, spew disinformation and propaganda, help cause chaos, undermine whatever integrity there is left - that's the mission.

Case in point:


Originally posted by Tumbleweed:
A couple of days ago he was sneering that he “heard the unedited tapes”.

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Yup. Lying sack of shit.



You're probably right, a therapist probably can't help these two.

They're obviously too emotionally invested and entrenched in their ideology.

But there's always hope...


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Ok. Now I know which "two" you are referring to.

We both got to make our points off that one.

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."

I take it that the two you're talking about were mistaken.

That's different compared to what the two I'm talking about do, in the context of disinformation and propaganda, and intentional disruption, etc.

Now we're getting somewhere.

Mistaken, one claims. I'll honor that.

The other, meh... he's suspect...


As for the new guy the jury is still out.

But he has managed to find my funny bone a couple times.

Now, come to think of it, the funniest member of AR that I ever came across was
a Russian who went by the handle Vashpar. I mean this guy was a funny fuck.

Spent lots of time on the humor page here.

He was banned. NOT sure if it was his ip address that was traced back to red square from here
at AR, but he disappeared about the same time.

That said, he spent little to no time in the ARPF...
and had just a rudimentary grasp of the English
language which led to much hilarity in the humor forum.

I think for now I'll humor this new feller because he humors me.


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I have not reviewed all the evidence, but that which I read did not say that Grassley said, specifically, that he had heard the tapes.

He and others believe they exist, just like those witnesses who somehow have gone missing.

If that's what you're talking about.

That is a minor point, IMO. It takes away nothing from the premise that the investigation behind this is nothing but a distraction and weaponization of powers, which is an on-going tactic of GOPers.

It's all within the envelope of something that Putin would approve. It serves no purpose in the pursuit of truth or for the sake of the country. It serves political power, the pursuit thereof, and there is a cost.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I have not reviewed all the evidence, but that which I read did not say that Grassley said, specifically, that he had heard the tapes.

He and others believe they exist, just like those witnesses who somehow have gone missing.

If that's what you're talking about.

That is a minor point, IMO. It takes away nothing from the premise that the investigation behind this is nothing but a distraction and weaponization of powers, which is an on-going tactic of GOPers.

It's all within the envelope of something that Putin would approve. It serves no purpose in the pursuit of truth or for the sake of the country. It serves political power, the pursuit thereof, and there is a cost.

Adam, is that you?





You've lost your mind Mangina. The same can be said about your party ever since 2016. Truly delusional...............

I see that a bunch of far right repugs in the House tried to reprimand Adam for his various roles in holding Trump accountable, and failed, with the help of sane republicans.

Adam, BTW, has proven his points very well, and more to come (pun intended)

Kabob, Shiff was on every news show that would have him, saying the steele file was true. So now, you have proof Durham is a liar too?

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I see that a bunch of far right repugs in the House tried to reprimand Adam for his various roles in holding Trump accountable, and failed, with the help of sane republicans.

Adam, BTW, has proven his points very well, and more to come (pun intended)

Are you dropping LSD daily in your retirement?

I'm sure there was SOME significant truth in the Steele Dossier.

This is so bigly that one can't comprehend it all or sum it up sufficiently.

There is no innocence or persecution unless one wants to stretch things beyond reason.

As far as I'm concerned, this story is ongoing.
as they say, the winners get to write history.

One could drive himself crazy studying all the facts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier

Also, the trove of footnotes.

Bottom line, Schiff was more right than wrong.

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I'm sure there was SOME significant truth in the Steele Dossier.

This is so bigly that one can't comprehend it all or sum it up sufficiently.

There is no innocence or persecution unless one wants to stretch things beyond reason.

As far as I'm concerned, this story is ongoing.
as they say, the winners get to write history.

One could drive himself crazy studying all the facts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier

Also, the footnotes.

AND now wikipedia?!!!!!!

What's next, you going quote snopes?

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Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
That is just it. Grassley himself is NOT an unreliable source and his allegations (to the best of my recollection…correct me by example if you can) always bear out to be substantiated.

MM made the same case over the 1023. It bore out that there was indeed a 1023 as described.

Grassley’s reputation is clean. Prove me wrong.

When he makes a statement…he has usually seen the evidence.

You keep saying this and I don't know what you're talking about. I refute so much of your bullshit that sometimes I lose track. Cite me up. I'll be happy to acknowledge it if I was wrong.

http://forums.accuratereloadin...251065472#5251065472

Go back and read it again, Lane. I was referring to the affidavit, not the 1023. Anybody with the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader would be able to see that.

MM

You and TW were questioning whether the 1023 existed. To say otherwise is pure spin.

The 1023 did exist. Obviously if we could read the 1023…answers to you other questions in that thread would likely be clear.

Either you linked me to the wrong page or we have moved into the realm of outright lies by you. There's nothing on that page about me saying the 10-23 doesn't exist. I asked you to prove the existence of the affidavit.

Do you even understand what a 10-23 is?

Did you send me the wrong link? Or, has it all just been a lie from the beginning and you didn't think I'd call you on it?

Pretty sad, man.

At the time…you were questioning whether or not the 10 23 existed. It did. Grassley new it did when he and Comer wrote the letter.

Your spin is what is pathetic.

I'll try again: show me the posts where I questioned that a 10-23 existed. I may have and if I did, I was wrong. But, you've shown me nothing that supports your argument. Seems like you're the one spinning.