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Originally posted by lavaca:
Saeed,

I agree the left is totally set on revenge and they have been launched on that strategy for the last 8 years. Now that Trump has been re-elected, all those ridiculous prosecutions stop. And, now, they say we should all play nice and political prosecutions should stop. Funny. Childish.

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Originally posted by MtElkHunter:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
If by "bulk" you're talking about land area, you are correct. But land doesn't vote; people vote.

The vote of the people was a lot closer than your graphic depicts. You're being misleading again.

Exactly!

Lane's graphic shows Montana all red. That is correct if you are talking about the electoral vote, all 4 went to Trump, however, that actual vote was something like 47 to 53 for Trump so if you do the same graphic by actual people vote it would be almost half blue. A lot of other areas would be the same.

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Originally posted by MtElkHunter:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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I am not a Dem or a Rep, I am independent. I vote for the person and not the party.

If you actually care about policy and things like laws and regulations and live in reality…you will give that habit up — at least as it pertains to federal government candidates. Because in case you haven’t noticed, those (D)s in Washington DC vote in lockstep 99% of the time.

The same can be said for you. If you were not completely blinded by your undying love of republicans and your unreasonable hatred of democrats

Not true at all. I disagree with 90+% of the Democratic Platform and I agree with 80+% of the Republican platform. I dislike some Democrats and I dislike some Republicans but I hate no one.

you might be able to see that there are some very bad horrible republicans that do not deserve the time of day let alone your vote

I vote against those in the Primaries. In the General for State and Federal seats I vote strictly for policy votes.

and there are some very good democrats that actually do a lot better for the country than most republicans.

As it pertains to Federal Government…not true at all. 1) If you can support the Democratic Platform and what the party stands for, I don’t look as you as a good person. 2) They are just a vote that always goes the wrong direction.

The hard core party people be it rep or dem are the ones that are causing all the issues in this country because they are so bull headed that they are not willing to compromise and meet in the middle

Republicans have compromised in the past and it always came back to haunt them. Democrats have never compromised without holding 2 fingers crossed behind their backs.

to get stuff done.

I always hear about this “stuff.” Some day, someone will have to explain what “stuff” they are referring too.

By far most good legislation come from the middle not the left or the right.

Maybe. But as far as I can tell Federally, there is NO middle in the Democratic Party. They have become the Party of the Far Left. They represent nothing I agree with. If they represent things you think are good…I welcome you to share them with me.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
The map is totally misleading.

There is only 3% between the votes.

Not as shown!

And people think things will change!

The right is doing everything to destroy what the left wants.

And the left is totally set on revenge!

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Maybe a plurality of voters. At least in terms votes received in the popular vote.

The number of votes cast for a candidate who receives more than any other but does not receive an absolute majority.

The electors being bound to state popular vote (S.Ct., upheld those laws) may not like who they have to vote for in the EX, but Trump certainly got a majority of the 538 EC delegates/votes.

except the absolute majority of voters voted for GOP -- by about 4.5 million

here's the link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...residential_election

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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But uneducated does not mean lacks intelligence

Often it does though. In our affluent society, where anyone can get schooling, those with intelligence usually opt for the advantages of an education.

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Originally posted by wymple:
Maga happiness won't last long. It's going to be a hard fall, and the right wings next big move will be trying to make it all Biden's fault. Remember that inflation right now sits at 2.1 % as of Sept reporting, & unemployment at 4%. I'm sure seniors are going to have buyer's remorse as their fixed incomes become worth less.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...UF?ocid=BingNewsSerp

https://www.msn.com/en-us/mone...7926afc213075e&ei=85

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Originally posted by lavaca:
What goes around comes around. And the first indictment should be Biden.

What are the charges, Comrade? We need to invent charges so the people don't laugh at us.

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Originally posted by 4WD:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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But uneducated does not mean lacks intelligence

Often it does though. In our affluent society, where anyone can get schooling, those with intelligence usually opt for the advantages of an education.

The problem now is that the radical woke progressive liberal democrats have taken over our universities and force woke agendas on our children. We need a total clean up in our higher learning institutions to get these left wing ten year professors out of our colleges and get back to main stream ideology. The liberal democrat wokes giving under qualified students preferential treatment, affirmative action, promoting the transgender movement and even communist professors teaching in these institutions is just plain crazy. The liberal dem wokes even gave the students a day off after the ass whooping the woke dem Harris received, so the students could mend their hurt feelings. You can’t make this shit up.
4WD

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by 4WD:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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But uneducated does not mean lacks intelligence

Often it does though. In our affluent society, where anyone can get schooling, those with intelligence usually opt for the advantages of an education.

The problem now is that the radical woke progressive liberal democrats have taken over our universities and force woke agendas on our children. We need a total clean up in our higher learning institutions to get these left wing ten year professors out of our colleges and get back to main stream ideology. The liberal democrat wokes giving under qualified students preferential treatment, affirmative action, promoting the transgender movement and even communist professors teaching in these institutions is just plain crazy. The liberal dem wokes even gave the students a day off after the ass whooping the woke dem Harris received, so the students could mend their hurt feelings. You can’t make this shit up.
4WD

Just send your kids to Loma Linda or California Baptist University. No biggie...

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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But uneducated does not mean lacks intelligence

Often it does though. In our affluent society, where anyone can get schooling, those with intelligence usually opt for the advantages of an education.

Nah I dont think so. You opt for an education if it fits your choice of career and lifestyle. Why rack up debt for a specific education you may/probably never need?
Most of us who live rural and express an interest in living rural get advised to either work our way up, or do training in a field of relevance where we can transfer the skills. So carpentry, mechanic, electrical etc

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Originally posted by lavaca:
What goes around comes around. And the first indictment should be Biden.

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Originally posted by 4WD:

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by 4WD:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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But uneducated does not mean lacks intelligence

Often it does though. In our affluent society, where anyone can get schooling, those with intelligence usually opt for the advantages of an education.

The problem now is that the radical woke progressive liberal democrats have taken over our universities and force woke agendas on our children. We need a total clean up in our higher learning institutions to get these left wing ten year professors out of our colleges and get back to main stream ideology. The liberal democrat wokes giving under qualified students preferential treatment, affirmative action, promoting the transgender movement and even communist professors teaching in these institutions is just plain crazy. The liberal dem wokes even gave the students a day off after the ass whooping the woke dem Harris received, so the students could mend their hurt feelings. You can’t make this shit up.
4WD

Just send your kids to Loma Linda or California Baptist University. No biggie...

Too late.
She already went through the SOROS Woke Radical Liberal Dem Controlled system.
Fortunately she’s pretty bright. It still took her about 3 years after graduation for her to get deprogrammed and once again form her own opinions once again. We are not racist. She is now working in a field helping low income minority young people find their place in the world. She stated her college experience was almost all a one sided liberal woke agenda.

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by lavaca:
What goes around comes around. And the first indictment should be Biden.

Doc Lane discusses the end of the "division" and you advocate revenge.

Those two don't go together.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Trump thinks he's a better man and knows more than anybody already.

So, how can he improve? His only path is to double-down on who and what he actually is.

There is no such thing as a narcissistic pivot, especially given power, like Trump has.

None of you Trump apologists seem to realize that. Instead, you tout "hope". It's too late for that.

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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But uneducated does not mean lacks intelligence

Often it does though. In our affluent society, where anyone can get schooling, those with intelligence usually opt for the advantages of an education.

Nah I dont think so. You opt for an education if it fits your choice of career and lifestyle. Why rack up debt for a specific education you may/probably never need?
Most of us who live rural and express an interest in living rural get advised to either work our way up, or do training in a field of relevance where we can transfer the skills. So carpentry, mechanic, electrical etc

I strongly disagree with this idea.

Regardless her adult pursuits, I'd like my daughter to be able to speak Latin, play piano, understand physics and biology. I'll encourage her to study art, astronomy and mathematics. I expect my girl to be well versed in history and literature.

Education is liberty, authority, and I think for our society or planet, a responsibility.

Show of hands, who here would prefer to see their kid playing Grand Theft Auto rather than reading non fiction?

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On carnac the close enough, how many times did Obama then obiden blame the prior admin? You priming us for you unending whining about it?

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

But most people who skip college aren't like you. They let their minds decay or fall into one rigid way of thinking.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
As I recall Hitler "won" an election. It was what happened after that when the world suffered.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

But most people who skip college aren't like you. They let their minds decay or fall into one rigid way of thinking.

you know you are an elitist, right? i mean, you SHOULD know it, but you might not. MOST, in fact the overwhelming majority of persons residing, including "new comers" don't have a degree, and you just called them deficient in your eyes.

further, matriculation is no certainly of continuing education - a striking counter example would be technologist, btw, which straddle both. You know what EVERY, i repeat, EVERY company, on the planet calls a recently hired college grad? a new hire

You lived in a bubble, where you were REQUIRED to do continuing education - which, again, isn't the OVERWHELMING majority of persons on the planet - they have no functional nor vocational requirement to be anything other than a master of their vocation to succeed.

but, hey, if you think college is required for success, there's about 4 million plumbers, abe lincoln, steve jobs, and bill gates that would like a word

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

I'll boil your post down to its essence for you:

My ignorance is as good as your knowledge.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Shankspony, you write well and make reasoned posts. You sound self-educated and probably have knowledge equivalent to one or more college degrees.

But most people who skip college aren't like you. They let their minds decay or fall into one rigid way of thinking.

Because of my post-high school education, I can read and understand a Shakespeare play in the original English. I can analyze a contract or tort dispute. I can write and sell my fiction and non-fictionn for publication.

These things may be meaningless to you, but have been very important to me. I guess the right answer for some is not the right answer for others.

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Shankspony, you write well and make reasoned posts. You sound self-educated and probably have knowledge equivalent to one or more college degrees.

But most people who skip college aren't like you. They let their minds decay or fall into one rigid way of thinking.

Because of my post-high school education, I can read and understand a Shakespeare play in the original English. I can analyze a contract or tort dispute. I can write and sell my fiction and non-fictionn for publication.

These things may be meaningless to you, but have been very important to me. I guess the right answer for some is not the right answer for others.

Ok refraining from getting angry, because I feel misrepresented. Ive never said education is undesirable or meaningless. You will not find many rural people who would describe your skill set as meaningless.

What im saying is that for some intelligent people especially in rural areas, university might not be the best or easiest path to what they wish to achieve, and that we should not equate education with intelligence in a bid to explain something such as vote choice.
You know nearly every farmer and many of the leasees or share milkers, fencing contractors, shearing contractors, arable contractors etc in rural areas are self made millionaires asset wise.
Its the same over here where we constantly get labelled as uneducated to explain things that others don't like.

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Ok refraining from getting angry, because I feel misrepresented. Ive never said education is undesirable or meaningless.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Shankspony, you write well and make reasoned posts. You sound self-educated and probably have knowledge equivalent to one or more college degrees.

But most people who skip college aren't like you. They let their minds decay or fall into one rigid way of thinking.

Because of my post-high school education, I can read and understand a Shakespeare play in the original English. I can analyze a contract or tort dispute. I can write and sell my fiction and non-fictionn for publication.

These things may be meaningless to you, but have been very important to me. I guess the right answer for some is not the right answer for others.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Ok refraining from getting angry, because I feel misrepresented. Ive never said education is undesirable or meaningless.

I don't get the near anger. I only said that being able to read a Shakespeare play or analyze a tort case "may" be meaningless to you. I don't know it these things are meaningful or meaningless to you. I was speaking by example.