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Originally posted by LHeym500:
The issue has become one of this President and his GOP not holding this neophyte (at best) national security team accountable.

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Several days after top national security officials accidentally included a reporter in a Signal chat about bombing Houthi sites in Yemen, a Pentagon-wide advisory warned against using the messaging app, even for unclassified information.

"A vulnerability has been identified in the Signal Messenger Application," begins the department-wide email, dated March 18 and obtained by NPR.


The memo continues, "Russian professional hacking groups are employing the 'linked devices' features to spy on encrypted conversations." It notes that Google has identified Russian hacking groups that are "targeting Signal Messenger to spy on persons of interest."

Moreover, a memo in 2023, obtained by NPR, warned of using Signal for any nonpublic official information.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
The issue has become one of this President and his GOP not holding this neophyte (at best) national security team accountable.

"neophyte"

remember all that executive experience g.washington had at being potus?

remember when stolen valor walz, who NEVER spent ONE second in combat, was selected as VEEP?

yeah,

remember all that experience h.clinton had in politics in general, and sec-state in specific?

or b.obama, who didn't even complete his single term as senator
both were ONE TERM senators, and both ran for (one made it) for potus, and received MILLIONS of votes?

mebbe realizing that "neophyte" (you know that means WITHOUT experience, right) argument is weaker than jobama's debate performance?

oh, 11 years of service .. hardly a "neophyte "

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11 years is the line that makes one an absolute neophyte?

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
His 11 years of service apparently did not prepare him adequately to head a government agency. This was very basic do not do. He and most of the heads of this Administration’s security leadership are found on this group text.

When you nominate and confirm people based on how well of a tv hack they are, this is what you get.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
He was much better than President Trump.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
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However, you are free to continue to attempt to provide rhetorical rebuttal to deflect from his malfeasance.
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Originally posted by LHeym500:
His 11 years of service apparently did not prepare him adequately to head a government agency. This was very basic do not do. He and most of the heads of this Administration’s security leadership are found on this group text.

When you nominate and confirm people based on how well of a tv hack they are, this is what you get.

Let us take your observation thst in running high US federal security departments that Sec. Hegseth having spent 12 years obtaining the rank of Lt. Col., then his behavior is one of arrogance. Thst he deliberately with full wisdom ignored rules designed to keep American institutions and service personnel safe. That is worse.

Sec. Hegseth is more a risk proven by these texts to front line troops than the trans service members he mocked.

However, you are free to continue to attempt to provide rhetorical rebuttal to deflect from his malfeasance.

The entire security team that provided information on that chat should be removed. Yet, here we are w a President that does not care, and men with no professional honor.
We get the government we vote for.

This is a continuance of Sec, Hegseth’s bad character from his interactions w the women in his life, his drinking, his public treatment of folks he attacks as political scapegoats, his mismanagement of veteran charity organizations.

The problem is not he sent it to a person who had no business having this information. The problem is this information was discussed by these people in the manner that it was discussed. We are lucky only a journalist got it. Then, true to form, instead of taking responsibility these people and this president want to attack the poor citizen who was sent the information.

However, instead of addressing the above, please continue to make the argument that these persons’ poor performance was not due to their lack of high security, major government experience.

The people’s business, governance, is hard. It becomes more difficult when you are blinded by arrogance.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
His 11 years of service apparently did not prepare him adequately to head a government agency. This was very basic do not do. He and most of the heads of this Administration’s security leadership are found on this group text.

When you nominate and confirm people based on how well of a tv hack they are, this is what you get.

Let us take your observation thst in running high US federal security departments that Sec. Hegseth having spent 12 years obtaining the rank of Lt. Col., then his behavior is one of arrogance. Thst he deliberately with full wisdom ignored rules designed to keep American institutions and service personnel safe. That is worse.

Sec. Hegseth is more a risk proven by these texts to front line troops than the trans service members he mocked.

However, you are free to continue to attempt to provide rhetorical rebuttal to deflect from his malfeasance.

The entire security team that provided information on that chat should be removed. Yet, here we are w a President that does not care, and men with no professional honor.
We get the government we vote for.

This is a continuance of Sec, Hegseth’s bad character from his interactions w the women in his life, his drinking, his public treatment of folks he attacks as political scapegoats, his mismanagement of veteran charity organizations.

The problem is not he sent it to a person who had no business having this information. The problem is this information was discussed by these people in the manner that it was discussed. We are lucky only a journalist got it. Then, true to form, instead of taking responsibility these people and this president want to attack the poor citizen who was sent the information.

However, instead of addressing the above, please continue to make the argument that these persons’ poor performance was not due to their lack of high security, major government experience.

The people’s business, governance, is hard. It becomes more difficult when you are blinded by arrogance.

I could be mistaken but I don't believe he ever got above Major. Very few ever make Lieutenant Colonel (outside of technical specialists, usually with PhDs) without both time as a Commander at the Company level and Staff at a Battalion level, generally S-1, S-2, S-3 or S-4. Hegseth's only Staff assignment appears to be Civil Affairs, which promotion boards tend to frown on.

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Originally posted by theback40:
The original sin with Austin, They wouldnt even discuss it. Heym, you have been ranting it's in-experience. How much more experience than a 4 star who fucked up. How does experience fit in his failure, as that is your top complaint?

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
How can any, Lowe classes, civil servers be expected to follow these rules, to be held accountable when the department heads can so disregard.

The journalist did not heck these devices. These chuckle heads sent the information to him.

The President has failed us by not dismissing these men.

It looks like the Senate will not just ignore it. Regardless of what they can actually do about.

JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.

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Originally posted by MJines:
I definitely have little respect for a man who lacks to cajones to simply own up to a mistake. The MAGAts love to talk about personal responsibility but display very little themselves.

JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
He has not taken responsibility. He has routinely attacked the reporter he called “scum” and a “loser.” He will take responsibility the day he resigns and apologizes.

The President should fire him two days ago.

Please note the quotes.

Everyone of them that provided information need to be gone.

JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
You must really respect Waltz, then.

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Originally posted by MJines:
I definitely have little respect for a man who lacks to cajones to simply own up to a mistake. The MAGAts love to talk about personal responsibility but display very little themselves.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
Waltz has taken complete blame. He created the authorized recipients list. Apparently he used contact data provided to him by a third party that had been compromised by someone (unknown person to date). Instead of the communication going to the designated party, the address had been intentionally changed to Goldberg, an “ends justifies the means” opponent of all things Trump. (If Goldberg wasn’t a part of the intentional address change but only a recipient, he’s actually not acted too badly this time.) Some trusted minion shouldn’t have been trusted. He/she wanted to create a crisis and was willing to put our pilots at risk. Forensic Information Tech folks are searching for the culprit. God help them if they’re caught.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
How can any, Lowe classes, civil servers be expected to follow these rules, to be held accountable when the department heads can so disregard.

The journalist did not heck these devices. These chuckle heads sent the information to him.

The President has failed us by not dismissing these men.

It looks like the Senate will not just ignore it. Regardless of what they can actually do about.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg12ewv7xyo

Waltz’s interview above.

Pilots at risk? The Biden administration has made sure Houthis have semi-sophisticated AAA and SAMS paid for by Iran. The mission went amazingly well. Goldberg, God bless him this one time, even though he had some information that could have compromised the mission, didn’t do so (at least to an effective extent).

Democrats do have a history of causing the deaths of our pilots, though. The Johnson administration (McNamara) got target data to Hanoi with specificity sufficient that SAMS and AAA was moved almost daily to scheduled targets. Good men are dead because of that traitorous bastard.