White Smoke.

The world’s richest and most exalted pedophile organization has a new king!

Praise Jesus and pass the collection plate!

I wonder what the Original Socialist would think of all this bullshit if he returned today. He’d probably just roll his eyes, throw the keys to the devil and disappear all over again.

1.4 billion Catholics can breathe a sigh of relief.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
White Smoke.

WTF is wrong with colored lights? They can shred the ballots instead of burning them.

Also WTF do they need all of those Cardinals for? Seems to me they would have zilch to do with me in church IF I was a churchgoer!

I hear it is an American.

Francis evaluated a bunch of Cardinals in places that would never get a Cardinal. Some would say to pack the College of Cardinals to advance and protect his reforms.

I thought it would be hilarious if he stepped out onto that balcony and bellowed “Allahu Akbar!”

In the long run, it was probably just Elons promise of free StarLink with full access to Pornhub that got the American installed. That was probably the most concentrated gathering of wealthy gay white males you’re likely to see for a few years; they deserve a hand up…or down…or whatever.

I’m sure that Donny will be bragging before the day is out about how the Pope is American because of how fantastic a POTUS he is, even though shaking hands with the new pope is bound to cost one of them a shriveled hand.

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:
The world’s richest and most exalted pedophile organization has a new king!

Praise Jesus and pass the collection plate!

I wonder what the Original Socialist would think of all this bullshit if he returned today. He’d probably just roll his eyes, throw the keys to the devil and disappear all over again.

I had a lot of time for the last pope. He didn't draw a salary (yeah ok you could say why would he need one), he gave it to charity, and he lived simply away from the splendour of the normal Vatican papal apartments. His humility should be an example to many of us.

Laura Loomer and MAGA are wetting their pants over the choice. Must have been correct.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/...s-anti-trump-tweets/

Somebody needs to call that rat bastard out, it sure as hell won't be the spineless GOP.

I can respect a religious person of a different belief than mine.

However, why would I feel I have any right to influence who the Catholic Church chooses as pope?

Until the man has a bit of a track record as pope, I will defer judgment on him as someone who isn’t a Catholic.

Trump posting that stuff about him as pope was obviously a joke… a joke in horrible taste, true, and a joke that is unbecoming of a political leader.

Pope Francis got into politics that were not rightly in his sphere, but he did obviously follow Christian beliefs.

While I hope he gains heaven, I certainly have no say or influence there. I do find interesting how some of our strongest supporters of secularism somehow seem to forget that when the guy’s pronouncements agreed with them.

A leader of a million believers has every right to engage in politics.

Free to enter the debate, the answer to that debate simply can’t be the Church or Bible says.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
A leader of a million believers has every right to engage in politics.

Free to enter the debate, the answer to that debate simply can’t be the Church or Bible says.

some folks don't read and understand history, doc, and it shows--- and take contemporary american ideology and try to apply to the world ... of course the pope, with 1.4 BILLION followers, is political -- realpolitik if nothing else - they forget he's head of state in his own right, and used to command armies, and makes empires tremble --

1.4 billion followers ... say, you know what happened in the 1960 presidential election, of ye short-sighted people, the first CATHOLIC was elected president --

ever wonder why that's significant? you should look it up

You are rambling.

Yes, JFK faced political attacks for being Catholic. He won and did not govern as a Papal puppet.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
You are rambling.

Yes, JFK faced political attacks for being Catholic. He won and did not govern as a Papal puppet.

sure, i may be rambling, but i am not lying about the price of a dozen eggs -

that you THINK i am rambling means you EXACTLY the demographic that should catch up- let me guess, your under grad was poli-sci

I was reading about this earlier.

Quick decision, as it was reported sometime in the past this has taken 8 years??

He apparently does NOT like the MAGA ARSEHOLE!

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
You are rambling.

Yes, JFK faced political attacks for being Catholic. He won and did not govern as a Papal puppet.

sure, i may be rambling, but i am not lying about the price of a dozen eggs -

that you THINK i am rambling means you EXACTLY the demographic that should catch up- let me guess, your under grad was poli-sci

Oh the selective outrage.

You sure don't seem to have a problem with Trump lying and regularly go out of your way in an attempt to defend those lies.

How can this be? You are always telling us how you are not biased.

Yep, and I have proven in conversion ls I have more knowledge of history than you.

Remember the conversation on treaties?

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Yep, and I have proven in conversion ls I have more knowledge of history than you.

Remember the conversation on treaties?

What conversion???? From a semi normal human to a leftie wierdo???

You did make that conversion, hopefully with some age and experience you will see the falling of your immature positions......


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Jeff’s has already admitted he was wrong in that conversation. The S. Ct., did not support his assertions.

What is not normal is allowing the Executive to violate the Constitution.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
A leader of a million believers has every right to engage in politics.

Free to enter the debate, the answer to that debate simply can’t be the Church or Bible says.

By definition what the pope says is religious.

He is the earthly leader of a religion that states anything he says in his role as pope (ex cathedra) cannot be wrong because God would not allow it.

What you are saying is that as long as he is saying things you agree with, he is an authority. As soon as he starts saying something about abortion?

And if its OK for the pope, is it OK for the Moral Majority? The folks who subscribe to Christian Nationalism?

The Pope is a foreign leader. (He is the titular leader of the nation of Vatican City, after all...) While I am sure that many are excited to have someone who was born in the US as Pope, he isn't really American anymore. His first loyalty is to a different group.

I certainly don't begrudge the pope to tell catholics what he feels their duty as catholics are. But if you want a wall between church and state, it does work both ways.

Heck, JD Vance is a staunch practicing Catholic. I would be pretty upset if he starts doing things "Because the Pope tells me to!"

Back in the 60's, folks were worried that JFK would be a creature of Rome, and not the US because they didn't think Catholicism was "just" a religion. They thought Catholics took some kind of oath to follow the Pope's orders... out of some sort of lack of understanding of the religion due to it being "different".

No religion has ever been ‘just’ a religion, and that’s the problem.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
White Smoke.

Since the age of 7, I've never been Fatherless myself. (Told Jesus 'Yes!' over 60 years ago.) Holy smokes, an American, though??! At one point there could have been three living popes in the RC church -- two retired, one "new." Now THAT would have been interesting! Congratulations to my Roman Catholic brethren, from a member of the catholic/universal church.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Jeff’s has already admitted he was wrong in that conversation. The S. Ct., did not support his assertions.

What is not normal is allowing the Executive to violate the Constitution.

yes, man, i admitted to a mistake - owned up to it the second it was pointed out -

you should try it

being wrong on a single, telling point, recognizing that the argument thing fails, and OWNING IT is adult behavior

But harping about a single case to prove the rule, and then failing to do the same -- that shows, how to a phrase this gentle ... intellectual dishonesty

sort of like me showing you that IGA doesn't list a dozen white eggs, of any price, with links, at being $14 today, and you not owning up to it --

but if a single "win" gives you hope, bless your heart

oh, if we are keeping score,

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Jeff’s has already admitted he was wrong in that conversation. The S. Ct., did not support his assertions.

What is not normal is allowing the Executive to violate the Constitution.

does being wrong once (note:not outright lying) mean one is wrong forever? So, you have perfect scores in ALL your classes? Won every point, of every game?

Stand before your own judgement, my friend-

I am told Bob Prevost of Chicago is a White Sox fan. God bless his papacy with truth and compassion.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Jeff’s has already admitted he was wrong in that conversation. The S. Ct., did not support his assertions.

What is not normal is allowing the Executive to violate the Constitution.

does being wrong once (note:not outright lying) mean one is wrong forever? So, you have perfect scores in ALL your classes? Won every point, of every game?

Stand before your own judgement, my friend-

You have been wrong a lit

Didn't take long.

https://www.aol.com/abuse-alle...-over-090834608.html

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Jeff’s has already admitted he was wrong in that conversation. The S. Ct., did not support his assertions.

What is not normal is allowing the Executive to violate the Constitution.

does being wrong once (note:not outright lying) mean one is wrong forever? So, you have perfect scores in ALL your classes? Won every point, of every game?

Stand before your own judgement, my friend-

You have been wrong a lit

Speaking of being wrong, i assume you meant "bit"

Still not owning being REPEATEDLY "incorrect" on the price of eggs at your local IGA, even after being presented with proof

Live up to your own standard, sir. I noticed you never answered the question on 100% correct in your classes ... I certainly wasn't, but did perform reasonably well in grad school...