An auto pen?

Did Biden even know who he pardoned......or who he was?????



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He is a possum, plays dead when it matters

i hope the maga trumpets will buy a lot of tesla to save the buddy of the supreme leader ... it might a bargain soon as a lot will be available as the socialist countries are not anymore buying them which is a paradox lol

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Originally posted by medved:
i hope the maga trumpets will buy a lot of tesla to save the buddy of the supreme leader ... it might a bargain soon as a lot will be available as the socialist countries are not anymore buying them which is a paradox lol

They cannot.

They are unable to do anything while their heads stuck up THE MAGA ARSEHOLER's arse!

That was a quick subject chamge/diversion.....the furriners really miss the freebies from joebama.....or whoever was running the auto pen!

Who is running the country now??

Certainly NOT the elected government.

THE MAGA ATSEHOLE’s South African immigrant is!

Who is running the country now? That used car commercial was pathetic.

Here’s Cal Worthington and his dog Spot!

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Originally posted by LongDistanceOperator:
Who is running the country now? That used car commercial was pathetic.

Here’s Cal Worthington and his dog Spot!

PERFECT!

Damn, an orange pug….

He looks like he's trying to take a shit.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
He looks like he's trying to take a shit.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure he already did. And then he stepped in it.

Well, at least we know who is running the country now. The little South African Nazi.

Jobama - Obama's third term -- conversely, the white house was lead by a bunch of "unelected bureaucrats" millennials

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Jobama - Obama's third term -- conversely, the white house was lead by a bunch of "unelected bureaucrats" millennials

Jeffe, there's no reasonable analogy between whatever excesses the Dems have engaged in and what trump is allowing Musk to do now. There just isn't. And, you know I am right.

fair enough - wasn't making an analogy, was answering the question - one thing we can all agree on is the joe wasn't making the big decisions .. most of the time i expect, before his shots, he was drooling into his cream of wheat -- some folks might say oatmeal, but I prefer Cream of wheat -- or even "malto-meal"

If only someone would put a muzzle on trump and speak for him…we would still be left with the problem of a fucking moron for president.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
fair enough - wasn't making an analogy, was answering the question - one thing we can all agree on is the joe wasn't making the big decisions .. most of the time i expect, before his shots, he was drooling into his cream of wheat -- some folks might say oatmeal, but I prefer Cream of wheat -- or even "malto-meal"

Or cream of some young guy

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Originally posted by JTEX:
An auto pen?

Did Biden even know who he pardoned......or who he was?????

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...2de61299573162&ei=83

The Democrats’ Path Out of the Wilderness
Opinion by J. Peder Zane • 7h • 5 min read

Excerpt:
The identities of those who were actually running the government during the last four years is one of the great mysteries of our time – a high-stakes whodunit that only deepened with the revelation that it was not Biden himself but a mechanical marker that signed many of the presidential orders that aimed to transform America. Autopen-gate raises the troubling question: Did Biden even know what he wasn’t signing?

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First thing this morning I read the article linked. About 1/3 of the points made/claimed in it I disagree with, or just don't believe are true. But the main claim about Biden's condition and the denial of it and the stupidity of trying to run him for a 2nd term is too obvious to deny.

Extrapolate that accepted fact(s) broad scale. That doesn't speak well of Dems, to say the least. But alas they sorta saw the error of their ways and substituted Harris/Walz. That should have worked, but the damage was done and Trump's lies and game were strong.

A quote from the article:

“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster.” Nietzsche

Trump won because he and Fox and many others over a long time demonized Dems as monsters, and in the process the party he hijacked became a monster in his image. It is like fighting monster windmills.

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fighting windmills - Overview
Tilting at windmills is an English idiom that means attacking imaginary enemies . The expression is derived from Don Quixote, and the word "tilt" in this context refers to jousting.
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There is no doubt that Trump(ism) is a monster full of hubris. Monsters/hubris are short term plots. We know from history how it ends and the damage.

Trump is not a windmill. He's like a hot air ballon/buffoon.

When were you diagnosed with apophenia, Kabob?

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Jobama - Obama's third term -- conversely, the white house was lead by a bunch of "unelected bureaucrats" millennials

Bankers like usual, some things never change.

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Originally posted by theback40:
When were you diagnosed with apophenia, Kabob?

What dots in my post are not connected?

In a way I was affirming JTEX's OP while disagreeing with him as to significances.

OTOH, what's the term for one's inability to connect relevant dots and deciphering meaning?

I can think of several words, but don't want to insult you.

As I recall Trump claims he excelled on a cognitive test by being able to ID a picture of an elephant.

He and Putin share something in common. Trump doesn't know he's the elephant in the room and Putin doesn't recognize in his relationship re Ukraine that he IS the problem - root cause.

How's that for connecting dots?

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Who was running the country?

Let's go on a bit with this dot connecting.

Let's go back in time a bit to Reagan's second term and the last part of it. Some how the job of executive was on auto-pilot. We still don't know who was doing the heavy lifting, but the same as with Biden, the job got done without disaster.

Importantly, the Dems didn't try to windmill it.

Now the Repugs try to make a big deal out of the Biden fuckup. And IMO they are correct insofar as the Dems trying to run him again.

Anyway there is hypocrisy there - somewhere.

And moreover, there's the Musk thing.

It makes sense that Trump claims McKinley as one of his heroes. McKinley used tariffs and he had his own Musk-like sponsor.

Mark Hanna https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...r_(1880%E2%80%931888)

So, the question is who is running the country now?

Well Kabob.... that the reason some dem, black and hispanic voters went to trump this time, was because of fox news. Those are some serious dots to connect.

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Originally posted by theback40:
Well Kabob.... that the reason some dem, black and hispanic voters went to trump this time, was because of fox news. Those are some serious dots to connect.

and the youth, and women --

yeah, fox news is the root of all evil in maggyland

and let's not mention how maggy has NEVER called out dem actions -- he's NEVER said "too many illegals" --

it's a cult, I swear -- or mind virus - ON BOTH SIDES --

I would like him to show the numbers of those switch voters that have been changed by fox news... or even watch it.

Who is running the country now JTEX?

A MAGA FUCKWIT

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Originally posted by theback40:
Well Kabob... Those are some serious dots to connect.

Connecting dots is my thing. Sometimes it's a stretch, but mostly not.

Really, though, it's about making sense out of divergence. I used that word carefully and I'm referring to political, cultural and associated identities.

Does anyone doubt such divergence exists?

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Definitions of divergence. the act of moving away in different direction from a common point.
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The "common point" is the country and rule of law per the Founders.

The "different direction" includes a stretch such as political radicalization, lawfare, spin, and even a political cult.

Several herein use the terms TDS, Kool Aid, Snake Oil, etc. I could go on about those terms but without real analysis (dots) they are meaningless slurs.

If anyone herein has an attention span, and can get past the messenger to the message, here's a video that connects dots far better than I can.

This explains TDS, Kool Aid, Snake Oil, Orange Jesus, belief in fiction and much more. It includes Dots like republican long game, project 2025, Fox News, and Trumpism, past and future outlook, perspective and more.

https://youtu.be/074gEsTCLMY?si=GDvrAsGtb9w7ghTg

Why TRUMP Supporters Really Believe In Him? A Psychiatrist's Insight

And if the above post of dot connecting isn't enough, if you didn't get it from the video, the central idea is "control", both perception and real.

For example, members feel that they have lost control of factors that affect their lives and look for a charismatic demagogue leader who promises to fix it for them.

https://www.politico.com/video...ne-can-fix-it-085403

So, I searched on the phrase: how is control defined in a cult

Results: https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

AI Overview
In cults, control is defined as the manipulation of an individual's thoughts, emotions, and behaviors through psychological, emotional, and physical tactics, often isolating members and discouraging critical thinking or questioning the leader's authority.
Here's a more detailed explanation of how control manifests in cults:
Methods of Control:
Psychological Manipulation:
Gaslighting: Making members question their own sanity and reality.
Guilt-Tripping: Using guilt to control behavior and loyalty.
Intimidation and Threats: Instilling fear to enforce compliance.
Love Bombing: Initially showering members with affection and attention to build a strong bond, which can then be used to control them.
Isolation: Cutting off members from outside influences, family, and friends to make them reliant on the group.
Thought Reform: Techniques designed to break down an individual's defenses and make them more susceptible to the cult's ideology.
Physical Control:
Restricting Access to Information: Limiting access to outside news, information, or perspectives.
Dictating Behavior: Controlling what members can wear, eat, and do.
Financial Control: Exerting control over members' finances and resources.
Physical Punishment or Threats: Using physical force or threats to maintain control.
Social Control:
Shaming and Ostracism: Publicly shaming or ostracizing members who deviate from the group's norms.
Creating a "Us vs. Them" Mentality: Encouraging members to view the outside world as inferior or dangerous, reinforcing loyalty to the group.
Enforcing Strict Rules and Regulations: Creating a rigid system of rules and punishments to control behavior.
Exploitation:
Economic Exploitation: Taking advantage of members financially.
Emotional Exploitation: Manipulating members' emotions to gain control.
Sexual Exploitation: Using sexual relationships as a means of control.


And: cult vs high control group

Results: https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

AI Overview
A high-control group is a group that controls its members, while a cult is a group that has a specific ideology and often has a charismatic leader.

High-control groups
Use manipulation and deception to create an "us versus them" mentality
Have leaders who make unrealistic promises
Have leaders who dictate how members behave and spend their time
Use gaslighting to make questioners feel guilty
Use love bombing to make new members feel accepted

Cults
Have a charismatic leader who has total control
Have an apocalyptic vision
Are isolated from society
Have rigid rules
Have extreme devotion to a person, object, or goal
Have an unusual, extreme, religious, spiritual, or philosophical belief system
Have rituals
Have a leader who is worshipped or greatly revered by the cult's followers
Cults can be religious, political, psychological, or secular. Some say that any religion that claims to be the "only, true" one is in danger of becoming a high-control group.

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Lots of overlap

We know you like connecting dots Kabob. But, a dot has to be there to connect to.
Jeffe and I spoke of a demographic change that moved from Biden last time to trump.
You claimed it to be fox news that changed peoples views.
Where has there been any proof there was an uptick in those demographics that watched, let alone changed their minds because of fox news?
Where is that dot you are connecting?

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demographic change

So, that's what you call whatever shift there was or may have been that got Trump his small barely winning percentage that he calls a mandate?

Nawh, it wasn't that. It was that a small percentage over whatever was already committed bought into Trump's BS, and the media megaphone, like Fox, making a big deal out of Biden's decline and whatever coverup there might have been and the Harris substitute.

If Fox didn't sway voters, then what good are they? They make money lying and feeding the flock affirmations.

This isn't about demographics, it's about persuasion. What good is a demagogue without charisma, lies and persuasion?

There you go again. Fox news swayed them.
There has to be proof it exists before you can connect your dots.
I have never said anything about a mandate, by the way.

Funny how Jtex asked the question and then ran away!

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Funny how Jtex asked the question and then ran away!

I dont "run" from anyone......specially a bitter little furriner

Funny how the question was asked about Biden and immediately turned to trump by the people that support biden.....

This forum has turned into a liberal circle jerk.

Whiney furriner that don't get their freebies and whiney lefties the same....

Biden is old news, dude. Why not complain about Clinton?

The Ten year old brained, MGA ARSEHOLE, is controlled by his South African boyfriend friend.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

This forum has turned into a liberal circle jerk.....

And you are the pivot man.

Pivot Man:
Urban Dictionary
https://www.urbandictionary.com › define › term=Pivot...
A person who is the center of attention in a Circle Jerk. Usually on his or her knees pivoting around to service the circle jerkers.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by LongDistanceOperator:
Who is running the country now? That used car commercial was pathetic.

Here’s Cal Worthington and his dog Spot!

PERFECT!

Come here doggy, come here!

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Originally posted by theback40:
There you go again. Fox news swayed them.
There has to be proof it exists before you can connect your dots.
I have never said anything about a mandate, by the way.

Well, the "mandate" is a dot. Trump says he's running the country the way he is because he has a voter mandate.

Re Fox News:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...3904b3e70cfb6&ei=204

'Scared to watch the news': Regretful Trump voters in key state 'anxious' about early acts
Story by Travis Gettys • 2d • 3 min read

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They are scared to watch legit truth news. All they have to do is watch Fox exclusively to alleviate their fears with Fox Spin, then go about their Belief in Fiction lives.

I read an article recently where there was a survey or test where people who watched Fox News were actually less informed than people who didn't watch or read news at all.

Speaking of whiny . . .

Instead of whining about foreigners and leftists, how about weighing in the issues:

1. Do you agree that Russia is and has been a more significant threat to the US than Ukraine? If so, do you agree that going into peace negotiations that it makes sense for Trump to castrate Ukraine and embolden Russia?

2. Do you agree that Trump should be talking about annexing or taking over allies like Canada and Greenland? Do you agree that NATO serves a valuable role in Europe and if so, does it make sense to piss all over your NATO allies and back away from your NATO commitments?

3. Do you agree that tariffs are in fact taxes and do you support the imposition of one of the largest tax increases in history on Americans through the imposition of tariffs that have rocked financial markets? Do you agree that the on again/off again imposition of the tariffs exacerbates financial uncertainty?

There are plenty of topical issues to discuss if in fact someone wants to discuss them. That said, seems to me that the MAGAts realize they are holding the short end of [the][Trump's] stick and that it is a whole lot easier to hide than engage. I'm sure that at some point Trump will blunder into a victory and when he does all the MAGAts will pop back out of the woodwork like swarming termites to tout his virtues. In the meantime, don't blame others for your own refusal to engage on topical issues. At the moment you look like the petulant kid that declared he was taking his football and going home.

All good points but reality can at times be totally different