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BS. There was part of a coordinated attempt to intervene in the transition of power pursuant to the outcome of an election. And to cause an alternate outcome. If it wasn't an insurrection, it was a fascist takeover move. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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What bothers me about these conversations is the hypocrisy. If the faces seen in the January 6th pictures and videos were Iranian or Afghans, the use of deadly force in totality would be assumed and demanded. If the faces were black and wearing BLM t-shirts, deadly force to repulse the attackers would be demanded. If that very same invasion, (trespassing,) with the same violent methods and means were used on our homes all of AR would roar for volleys of gunfire to repulse the trespassers. But they had MAGA hats so we give them a pass. "Poor Ashley Babbitt!"  | |||
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A lot like a college panty raid... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Like I said…anyone who believes that is a nut.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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My question Scott is this: What did the horned-nut actually do? He wasn’t trespassing…he was invited in and chauffeured around by the Capital Police. I don’t think he is charged with any kind of assault. I agree he is a nut and participating in stupid protest. But being a nut and acting like one is a National Pastime in the US. What is he guilty of??? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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476 alone have pled guilty to committed crimes that day. Hundreds yet, are unresolved. Sentences of five years or longer in federal prison. But Tucker and Lane want to portray it as a love-in. | |||
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Doug, It was a riot. Rioters should be punished. Can you tell me what this horned-dude did that actually violates the law? We have established that he wasn’t trespassing. I don’t believe he assaulted anyone. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Here, you fucking idiot: Jacob Chansley, the spear-carrying Jan. 6 rioter whose horned fur hat, bare chest and face paint made him one of the more recognizable figures in the assault on the Capitol, was sentenced Wednesday to 41 months in prison. Chansley, who pleaded guilty to a felony charge of obstructing an official proceeding, was among the first rioters to enter the building. He has acknowledged using a bullhorn to rile up the mob, offering thanks in a prayer while in the Senate for having the chance to get rid of traitors and scratching out a threatening note to Vice President Mike Pence saying, “It’s Only A Matter of Time. Justice Is Coming!” Though he isn’t accused of violence, prosecutors say Chansley, of Arizona, was the “public face of the Capitol riot” who went into the attack with a weapon, ignored repeated police orders to leave the building and gloated about his actions in the days immediately after the attack. WATCH: Their loved ones are ‘obsessed’ with QAnon conspiracies. It’s tearing their families apart Before he was sentenced, Chansley told U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth it was wrong for him to enter the Capitol and that he accepts responsibility for his actions. He emphasized he wasn’t an insurrectionist and is troubled with the way he was portrayed in news stories in the aftermath of the riot. “I have no excuse,” Chansley said. “No excuses whatsoever. My behavior is indefensible.” The judge said Chansley’s remorse appeared to be genuine but noted the seriousness of his actions in the Capitol. “What you did was terrible,” Lamberth said. “You made yourself the center of the riot.” The image of Chansley holding a flagpole topped with a spear tip and looking as if he were howling was one of the most striking to emerge from the riot.
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So actually he really didn’t do a damn thing??? Is that what you are saying counselor? Brandishing a bullhorn…oh dear!  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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You are being asinine Lane. No amount of minimizing is going to undo the damage done on Jan. 6th, courtesy of Trump, yet we know you will support him moving forward. What you should be outraged about is Trump and Fox News pushing the stolen election lie, but instead here you are defending the nutters. | |||
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No doubt about it…that fellow is a nut! But did he commit a crime? That is my question. Did Fox News “push” the story or did they merely report what was being said by some? Should Fox News owner censor the reporters, as Sen Schumer suggests, or should they report what is ‘actually’ being said and done…you know the news??? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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You are being asinine, again. He pled guilty and admitted to a felony charge of obstructing Congress. Yes, he committed a crime. Fox News pushed a story that they fully knew was false, for political motives, as Murdoch testified to under oath last week. https://www.reuters.com/legal/...-too-far-2023-03-08/ That is not news but propaganda. | |||
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If he didn’t commit a crime, why did he plead guilty to a felony and tell the judge his actions were indefensible?? Just curious….  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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I'm not the nutz in this case. Anyone who minimizes or deflects the true significance of what Trump and his Fodder did is beyond nutz. This thinking is harmful to the country and complicit and enabling to it happening again by any means deemed necessary. I'm sure one of the first things Trump will do is a mass pardon for all those involved, convicted and not yet convicted, and a lot more. This all is the most direct attack on the Rule of Law that the country has seen. There is no excuse for not acknowledging, except maybe for the brain dead, or the equivalent there in your case. And besides all that, choosing to believe ANYTHING that Trucker Carlson says or portrays as truth is a real clue as to being bonified Nutz. In your case, you have been waiting for a long time for someone to feed you affirmation for what you already believed and what you have denied. gobble - gobble. =============================================== https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...88e3c486e5ba2b&ei=44 John Bolton Delivers Ominous Warning on Trump Demands For ‘Retribution’: He’s ‘Calling for Something Close to Civil Insurrection’ Story by Filip Timotija • Yesterday 3:53 PM (Trump Quote at CPAC  “Today, I add: I am your warrior. I am your justice,” Trump said in his speech. “And for those who have been wronged and betrayed, I am your retribution.”Trump’s spokesman characterized the speech as “a call to political action to defeat the Democrats who have put their collective boot on the throats of Americans. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either being disingenuous or is outright lying because they know President Trump continues to be a threat to the political establishment.” But Bolton had another interpretation. The former national security adviser — who was fired by Trump — told The New York Times that Trump was talking about his opposition’s fate. “It would be, first and foremost, getting back at the people he thinks deserve some kind of punishment for not doing what he tells them to do,” Bolton said. “And it’s a big group of people.” During the speech, Trump also said: “This is it. Either they win or we win. And if they win, we no longer have a country.” Bolton described this part of the speech as a signal that Trump won’t accept another election defeat “the same way he didn’t accept the first defeat,” The former ambassador to the United Nations concluded his comments on the speech by stating that Trump was “pretty much calling for something close to civil insurrection.” ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Mitch McConnell's Fox News Denouncement Sends MAGA Into Meltdown Story by Aila Slisco • Yesterday 8:12 PM https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...88e3c486e5ba2b&ei=79 Carlson on Monday described January 6 rioters as "sightseers" who were "peaceful" while airing a small portion of nonviolent moments on the day of the riot, taken from the more than 40,000 hours of footage given to him by GOP House Speaker Kevin McCarthy. The airing of the footage prompted Trump to demand that those imprisoned for crimes related to the attempted insurrection be released, while many of his supporters celebrated Carlson's footage as a refutation of other footage that clearly shows violence from the rioters. McConnell took a different stance when asked about the footage, backing a statement from U.S. Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger, who said the "outrageous" presentation had "conveniently cherry-picked from the calmer moments" of the riot to reach "offensive and misleading conclusions." "Clearly the chief of the Capitol Police, in my view, correctly described what most of us witnessed firsthand on January 6," McConnell told reporters while holding up a copy of Manger's statement. "It was a mistake, in my view, for Fox News to depict this in a way that's completely at variance with what our chief law enforcement official here at the Capitol thinks," he continued. McConnell also received some praise for rejecting Carlson's narrative. "Another rare agreement with McConnell," tweeted Chris Hahn, Democratic activist and podcaster who has appeared on Carlson's show. "Tucker is a conspiracy theorist and an apologist for seditionists." Progressive podcaster Brian Tyler Cohen tweeted, "Republicans are now calling Mitch McConnell a Democrat for siding with Capitol Police against Tucker Carlson." "In case you were wondering how far right they've gone." McConnell was not the only Republican to denounce Carlson and the footage aired by Fox. His fellow GOP Senators Kevin Cramer, Thom Tillis, John Thune, Mitt Romney, Mike Rounds and Chuck Grassley were among those who also pushed back on Tuesday. Cramer said Carlson's framing was "just a lie," according to CNN's Manu Raju, while Tillis reportedly called the narrative "bulls***." ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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The shaman case is like Mike Flynn. The dudes stand up and admit they committed a felony, but Lane says no they didn’t commit a crime. It’s the evil government. | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...1279bd7839b088&ei=29 Tucker Carlson's January 6 Segment Draws Bipartisan Outrage: 'One Of The Most Shameful Hours We Have Ever Seen On Cable TV' Story by Sara Dorn, Forbes Staff • Yesterday 12:56 PM Abipartisan coalition of lawmakers criticized Fox News host Tucker Carlson’s downplaying of the January 6 Capitol riots in a segment Monday featuring tapes provided exclusively to the conservative pundit via Republican House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), as Fox is set to continue releasing footage of the attacks. Key Facts Multiple Republican senators lashed out at Carlson’s characterization that the footage McCarthy handed over “demolishes . . . the claim that January 6th was an insurrection,” while Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) launched a scathing rebuke of the segment on the Senate floor Tuesday. en. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.) said that equating the insurrection to a protest is “just a lie” and Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) called Carlson’s framing “bulls—t,” CNN reported. Republican Sens. Chuck Grassley (Iowa), Mike Rounds (S.D.), and John Thune (S.D.) also rejected Carlson’s narrative, with Thune telling CNN: “Tthere were a lot of people in the Capitol at that time that were scared for their lives.” Schumer opened Tuesday’s Senate session by calling the segment “one of the most shameful hours we have ever seen on cable television,” and criticized McCarthy for engaging in a “treacherous, treacherous game by catering to the hard right”—a reference to McCarthy’s deal with his right-wing detractors during January speaker election to release the tapes in exchange for their support. Schumer also called on Fox News chairman Rupert Murdoch to block the release of future segments. Crucial Quote “Speaker McCarthy is every bit as culpable as Mr. Carlson. Speaker McCarthy’s decision to share security footage with Fox looked like a mistake from the very beginning, but after last night it looks like a disaster,” Schumer said. (There's more) ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Now, these criminals that stormed the Capitol are asking the judges to delay their cases because they want to review the 40,000 hours of tapes to see if there is any exculpatory evidence. | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...f8f7b60773c32c&ei=14 Kevin McCarthy Has One Word About Tucker Carlson's ‘Downplay Of Death' Story by Lisandra Gomez-Tate • 2h ago In a controversial move that some have linked to promises he made to far right GOP congressional members in order to secure the speakership, Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy gave thousands of hours of video from the January 6 insurrection at the Capitol to Fox News and Tucker Carlson. (Note: McCarthy denies the link.) Asked repeatedly about his decision and whether he has regrets about his decision now that Carlson has begun to use the video to try to alter the January 6 narrative, McCarthy kept returning to a single word — transparency. Asked specifically if McCarthy had reconsidered his move with Carlson now using the footage to “downplay Brian Sicknick’s death” and “whitewash the events of that day,” McCarthy replied: “No.” His goal was “transparency,” he said repeatedly, defending how the video was distributed. (See ‘transparency’ definition below.) One trouble with McCarthy’s reasoning, critics point out, is that the video delivery to Fox was an exclusive — no other media organization was given access to the video, which McCarthy said he would release more broadly at a later date, after Carlson was finished with his reframing of the events. [Transparency, according the American Legislative Exchange Council, is “government’s obligation to share information with citizens that is needed to make informed decisions and hold officials accountable for the conduct of the people's business.”] ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Trump Calls for House Select Committee Members to be Tried for Treason Following Tucker Carlson Whitewash of Jan 6th Story by Colby Hall • 5h ago https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...f8f7b60773c32c&ei=27 Former President Donald Trump took his praise of Tucker Carlson to a new level when he called for members of the House Select Committee to be tried for treason. Trump has been lauding the Fox News host for his naked attempt to reframe the narrative, But Trump doubled down on his attacks n a late Tuesday night post on social media, writing: GREAT JOB BY TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT. The Unselect Committee of political Hacks & Thugs has been totally discredited. They knowingly refused to show the Videos that mattered. They should be tried for Fraud and Treason, and those imprisoned and being persecuted should be exonerated and released, NOW! Now at first blush this looks just like standard Trump bluster. But “treason” is a big deal, because according to 18 U.S.C. § 2381, it is punishable by death: Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. Again, loose language? Hyperbole? Sure. But Trump is the leading candidate of the Republican party and has pledged RETRIBUTION if he is elected to a second term. So, yeah. Kind of weird, no? See: Related video: Tucker Carlson’s Jan. 6 Video Tapes Release: 3 Biggest Revelations (Newsweek) ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...f8f7b60773c32c&ei=62 Proud Boy's lawyer fears Fox News' new Jan. 6 coverage will blow up in his client's face Story by Brad Reed • 3h ago Pattis on Wednesday denounced Carlson's decision to describe the January 6th riots as mostly peaceful. Specifically, Pattis said he's "outraged by what Tucker Carlson said" and added that "I don’t think any reasonable person... could conclude otherwise than that there was violence" at the Capitol on January 6th. Cheney notes that Pattis also expressed fears that Carlson's coverage could cause a "backlash" with the jury that would make them more likely to convict his client. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Do not forget President Trump has promised to pardon all the Jan 6 folks if he wins. | |||
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It's mind blowing for me to read and see now that anything goes so long as it on our side. Rape, pillage and burn is acceptable and understandable for the BLM folks so long as someone has a BLM t-shirt on somewhere. It's historical trauma or something like that. In order to defend abortion rights it's recommended to infringe on SCOTUS judges rights. Criminal efforts to overthrow the Biden administration is ok since it was Biden after all, we really wanted trump anyway and the folks looting the Capitol were wearing MAGA hats just like mine. There is no more civility or Rule of Law, there is no more honor or morality, it's all reduced to, "what do I need to do to win?!?!?!". I am blown away. | |||
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You are fine with the clip editing of the left you old loon! You where great with Schiff and his "irrefutable evidence" from a whistleblower.......that NEVER came out. The false Russian collusion that was never proved. You are the worst type of person there is, face it. As long as it fits your agenda and its not "in your backyard" its wonderful. You are nothing but a hypocritical old woman afraid of your own shadow! Cut and paste something old woman, its all you got. | |||
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Exactly! Scott, wrong is wrong and right is right. But remember, when you fight someone that doesn't care about truth and honor, and you fight by the rules you usually lose. . | |||
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What exactly is obstruction of Congress? People go to legislative sessions all the time and holler things. He was led in by Capital Police. I would like to read the statute he violated. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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People plead to things not uncommonly because they are scared. I am not saying he is innocent…I would just like to understand exactly what he “did” that violated law. We know he was escorted in by the Capital Police. We know he did not commit violence. Apparently he had a megaphone and was chanting. I concede the guy is certifiable as a nut-case but did the Government just crucify him over nothing??? I remain skeptical. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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He was led in or led around? I haven't seen the clip/s aired by Carlson, but did the CP open the door and wave to him to come inside or did the CP accompany him around after he let himself in? Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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Google is your friend: https://crsreports.congress.go...ational%20terrorism). | |||
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True or not, probably not something either one of us will teach our kids. If the opposition lies, I can't tell mine to lie also. If the opposition is a thief, a murderer, a rapist,...... I could tell you a couple funny stories, you tell me about how when your kids were really little they observed you doing something and mimicked you. Our kids are watching Pelosi and Schumer, Trump and Cuomo, the January 6th videos and the BLM riots and looting. Wait for the mimicry. January 6th was more than burning down a Wendy's, more than Portland surrendering to antifa, much different than Rodney King. As I've said before, the perpetrators of January 6th should have been repulsed authoritatively, brutally, with finality. That should have been a lesson for Hamas, the Taliban, BLM, antifa ect. Fuck around and find out. I think those I mentioned above learned the opposite lesson. | |||
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They did open the door for him once and they conversed with him. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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So I suppose this is the statute he violated: Obstructing Congressional or Administrative Proceedings (18 U.S.C. 1505) Section 1505 outlaws obstructing congressional or federal administrative proceedings, a crime punishable by imprisonment not more than five years (not more than eight years if the offense involves domestic or international terrorism). The crime has three essential elements. First, there must be a proceeding pending before a department or agency of the United States. Second, the defendant must be aware of the pending proceeding. Third, the defendant must have intentionally endeavored corruptly to influence, obstruct or impede the pending proceeding. Section 1505 offenses are not RICO or money laundering predicate offenses. Conspiracy to obstruct administrative or congressional proceedings may be prosecuted under 18 U.S.C. 371, and the general aiding and abetting, accessory after the fact, and misprision statutes are likely to apply with equal force in the case of obstruction of an administrative or congressional proceeding. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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The guy used a bullhorn and also interrupted a senate proceeding. He refused to follow the directives of law enforcement (even if they let him in and escorted him, that doesn’t remove his requirement to obey reasonable law enforcement requests, does it? Sure, some of the people involved were involved in sedition… maybe poorly organized and zero chance of working, but meeting the definition of it. What this puts into question is the veracity of the 1/6 committee in characterizing this event as being out of control violence. If they lied in part, their whole conclusion is tainted. The committee and its conclusions are in my mind the thing that is being called into question here, not the trials and convictions of individual conspirators and rioters… sure, the committee’s behavior might well have poisoned the juror pool and given these folks grounds for appeal, which is part of why Congress shouldn’t involve itself in law enforcement. Frankly, the democrats got what they wanted. Political theater that boosted them in the midterms. As to a fascist conspiracy, what twaddle. These folks were deluded and were egged on by Trump saying what he was. IMO, it was grifting, but no chance in hell of stopping Biden from taking office. I have no issue with throwing the book at these guys for the “seriousness of the charge” but this was neither a serious threat to our way of self governance nor some sort of threat of developing a new autocratic system. These folks were dumb, and I’m ok with stupid hurting. Too bad the left feels this one is the only one that we need to make an example of. | |||
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What it shows is you really can’t trust a damn thing put out these days. Government lies, hyperbolizes, and inhibits transparency. Yes, there was a riot. Rioters should be punished. Calling it an insurrection is idiocy. Our intel should have been good enough that Capital Police were prepared and reinforced to nip this riot in the bud at the onset. All riots everywhere should be quelled at onset. Allowing anarchy breeds anarchy. The idiot with the horns should have just been turned away immediately just for being an idiot. The world we have created accepts nuts as normal.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I think this thread/discussion has devolved into a bunch of convoluted BS. It's a grievance fest; too many to address. But that's typical. The OP point is that Carlson has done the expected with the unique access to info. He's tried to paint an alt-reality narrative. And folks are buying into it. That was McCarthy's intent, and apparent agreement with Carlson. All this other BS, although related and collateral, serves to deflect the point. Facts: Carlson is a liar. There are those who want the affirmation he offers. It's harmful in several ways. The rule of law has served justice for many participants of the 1/6 "event". The whole point of the alt-narrative is to undermine the Rule of Law. In contrast, other "riots" or BLM or antifa are not about substituting a loser for a winner, by unconstitutional means, for the office of POTUS. Trumpism, MAGA, and all the Fodder are ALL about the destruction of the foundation of Rule of Law. It's a significant difference. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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This is an example of what Carlson is contributing to: 'We will go to war': Boogaloo Bois regrouping to seek vengeance for Mar-a-Lago raid Story by Travis Gettys • 8h ago https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...47f977235f8ca4&ei=15 ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...47f977235f8ca4&ei=35 'Bring it on': Liz Cheney calls GOP bluff on demands for new Jan. 6 hearings Story by Gideon Rubin • 6h ago “Let’s replay every witness & all the evidence from last year. But this time, those members who sought pardons and/or hid from subpoenas should sit on the dais so they can be confronted on live TV with the unassailable evidence.” The push for the new Jan. 6 investigations comes amid growing controversy over McCarthy providing over 40,000 of video footage of the insurrection to Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who this week has used the footage to downplay the violence that occurred during the attack on the Capitol. Rep. Barry Loudermilk, a Georgia Republican, will lead the new GOP Jan. 6 probe, CNN reports. “I’m spending some time over there getting my hands wrapped around what we have,” Loudermilk told CNN. “We’re going to be looking at what happened in the Capitol. What happened leading up to it? How did we have such a security failure.” But not all Republicans are on board for this endeavor. “I think they need to watch a little less cable TV,” Sen. John Cornyn, a Texas Republican said of the House plans to investigate Jan. 6. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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From you…a total complement for I am 180 from warped view and proud of that fact.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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