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Jan. 6 footage shows Capitol cops escorting QAnon Shaman to Senate floor What does the brain trust think of this??? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | ||
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That Jan 6th never needed to happen if Trump and Rupert had just been honest and accepted the actually results of a free and fair election. https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/27...-fox-news/index.html Also that it is sad that you are trying to justify the behavior of the rioters. | |||
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That those cops should be criminally charged? -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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I am not justifying anything. Did you know that the police escorted this fellow right in? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Personally, I don’t really care if Pelosi herself escorted the clown there… he was responsible for his own behavior and it was provably poor. I’d agree that this shows some of the 1/6 committee’s claims were hyperbolic, but still, the underlying riotous behavior and the folks with documented insurgent statements still have no point or validity. Goes to show that the Capitol police really had no clue how to handle the situation- poor leadership. | |||
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Whatever it means it isn't what Carlson says it means. At the time he entered, obviously it wasn't a breakin. Did he have the right to be there regardless of the costume? Many of the cops were just standing around, so apparently the entry was before the riot escalated. Let's change the word "escorted" to accompanied. "Escorted" seems to imply the cops were complicit or enablers. Accompanied implies they were suspicious and wanted to make sure he got to the place he belonged without mischief along the way. ************* Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Maybe you are correct!? I don’t know. My point from the beginning of this shit-show was that is was not as portrayed by the vast majority of of the media. And, we still aren’t privy to what actually went down. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Leave it to ledvm to misread the facts to justify his own alternative bullshit. At that point the police were completely over-powered and outnumbered. What did you expect them to do, jump on his back, and escalate the violence? https://www.rollingstone.com/p...mccarthy-1234691769/ (I'm sure JTEX will fall for your drivel.) Wear your MAGA ball-cap with pride. It's your brand, and Tucker is your man.. | |||
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Yep, I shouldn’t believe my lying eyes. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Let's talk about McCarthy giving exclusive access to Carlson. What was the purpose of that knowing that Carlson would clip/edit and lie about the significance? It's a treasure trove for Carlson's lies. ************* Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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He was escorted by the Capitol police at one point. If you have freedom, the cops don’t stop you until you actually do something wrong. I agree that this shows that the 1/6 committee’s report is hyperbolic, but it doesn’t disprove that some of the folks behaved badly and deserve to be in prison. Are you implying that the Capitol police actually made this clown do what he did? That’s the only way I see this video as being mitigation for the bad behavior of the folks convicted. Did the committee play it up for democrat political gain and make it seem like a reason to condemn all republicans? Yes. Surprised? That’s what politicians do.
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That is a very strange video. It shows a different picture of the resurrection. A couple things should be explored and exposed: 1. What were these cops doing allowing this freak to gain access? 2. Is this actual footage. Tucker is a son of a bitch that would sabatoge the United States for a buck. | |||
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I especially found troubling the video that supposedly show Selznick in a helmet walking around inside the Capitol essentially directing traffic after his assault. There is no way in hell you can’t tell who that person is. On the flip side, you can tell who the cop was who was struck from behind with a fire extinguisher.  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Lots of questions to be answered. Cops did not look overwhelmed by the 'shaman'. Shaman got four years for walking inside the building? Did he vandalize anything? I don't recall seeing him destroying anything. Did he? One protester was shot dead that I know of by a police officer. So the cops certainly had options. Video shows the one shaman being escorted around by several police officers. He was clearly outnumbered. WTF? The lies spewed by the media and left about Officer Sicknick are just as bad as anything done by the idiots who vandalized the building. I still wonder about Ray Epps. He looks like an organizer and leader of a lot of the vandals yet he has not been arrested. Lots of hysteria, not a lot of facts but the newly released video sure is telling. My assumption the J6 committee has seen all of this and yet I wonder why this was hidden from everyone else? They now look as bad as the vandals for encouraging a false narrative. Pretty sad. ~Ann   | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...240fb222cf2e50c&ei=9 Sicknick Family Destroys Fox News and Tucker Carlson In Blistering Condemnation of Jan. 6 Footage Spin Story by Tommy Christopher • 2h ago (see the video at 1:15) ************* Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Politicians were lucky it was not a defenestration with spears and pikes under the windows | |||
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Bullshit. Treasonous pieces of shit took over the Capital in an effort to overturn a general election. If those cops participated, they should be charged too. And, here you are, trying to justify and/or explain it still. What nonsense. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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It's too bad it wasn't. That would have given the cops the right to shoot every one of those pieces of shit. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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The one they shot was unarmed. Why didn't they shoot them all? ~Ann | |||
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Truly a missed opportunity in a target rich environment. They should have shot many more. | |||
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So why didn't they? They could have easily gunned down that crazy shaman. ~Ann | |||
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That's not even new news, since it has previously been aired that it appeared that the Capitol police were allowing them in. When that one Iowa asswipe was going up the stairs that officer should have kicked him in the teeth and sent his sorry ass sprawling. Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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The bigger problem with the video is the claim by many of the defendants' attorneys is that it wasn't available to them prior to trial. Whether the video is exculpatory evidence which was withheld from defense is the most important aspect of the release of the video. | |||
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Wouldn't have bothered me a bit if they had. The hell with your cohorts. Treason is a very serious crime. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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It's not exculpatory. That shaman asshole was convicted of obstructing an official proceeding. Whether the cops participated or not is irrelevant to that charge. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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The cops should have gunned down some antifa and BLM protesters who attacked police. That way they could shoot as many rioters as they wanted and claimed equality! | |||
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And, not surprisingly, it looks like there may be another side to the story. https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/07...6-footage/index.html "US Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger on Tuesday ripped into Fox News host Tucker Carlson over his commentary about footage from the January 6, 2021, insurrection that he aired Monday night, saying the host “cherry-picked” from the footage to present “offensive” and “misleading” conclusions about the attack. “Last night an opinion program aired commentary that was filled with offensive and misleading conclusions about the January 6 attack,” Manger wrote in an internal department memo obtained by CNN, adding that Carlson’s show didn’t reach out to the police department “to provide accurate context.” “The program conveniently cherry-picked from the calmer moments of our 41,000 hours of video. The commentary fails to provide context about the chaos and violence that happened before or during these less tense moments,” Manger said. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Each side cherry picks Politics as usual | |||
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Not really. There's been well documented charges filed, trial by juries held, convictions and sentences handed down. Americans have been found guilty of Seditious Conspiracy. They should have been shot. There is a good and a bad, a black and a white a right and a wrong. Those that do not see that in all the events of January 6th simply refuse to see and agree they were wrong. There is no shade of gray or nuance, all those that broke the peace on January 6th were wrong, some criminally, some feloniously, and one fatally. That the capitol police didn't do a whole lot more shooting and killed dozens more was a mistake and only adds to the missguided beliefs in the cause, the feelings and activities, the intent and the punishment of the rioters. | |||
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Some things can be bipartisan, it seems. At least to a degree. Most republicans will stay totally silent. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...50c50f46f05b00&ei=22 | |||
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WASHINGTON — Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and other Senate Republicans on Tuesday lashed out at conservative Fox News host Tucker Carlson after he characterized the deadly Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol as "mostly peaceful chaos." At a GOP leadership press conference, McConnell said he wanted to associate himself with the letter sent to the U.S. Capitol Police force by Chief Thomas Manger, who denounced Carlson for spreading “offensive and misleading conclusions” about the Jan. 6 insurrection, including a “disturbing accusation” that Officer Brian Sicknick’s death had nothing to do with the riot. "I want to associate myself entirely with the opinion of the chief and the Capitol Police about what happened on January 6," McConnell said as he held up a copy of the letter. "It was a mistake, in my view, for Fox News to depict this in a way that’s completely at variance with what our chief law enforcement official here at the Capitol thinks.” | |||
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Lane, from the 6th has done his best to mitigate the insurrection. Well, Lane, you and Tucker’s video proves the truth that the insurrection didn’t occur. Why you up Tucker’s butt, how about posting some the info coming out about Dominion’s lawsuit? | |||
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Yep, should of machine gunned them all down. How dare they trespass in the People's House. | |||
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Peaceful tourists my ass. Tucker is a pitiful example of responsible journalism gone awry.  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Why isn’t talking about the 140 policemen severely injured? McCarrhy was scared that day, running like a frightened cunt, yet he hands over the exclusive use of the tapes to Carlson. | |||
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This event was NO insurrection. Anyone that uses that term is an idiot…plain and simple. It was a riot. And some people broke the law. They damn sure should be punished if they did. But tell me…what did this idiot with the horns actually do? He didn’t trespass…he was led in by the police. This whole event was a shit show and a stain on our country…but it is a whole helluva lot different than the media and the J6 Committee make it out. My trust for our government weakens a bit more. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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This is another example of why McConnell needs to go... It's hard to depict a video in any other way than what the video actually shows. | |||
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"insurrection, an organized and usually violent act of revolt or rebellion against an established government or governing authority of a nation-state or other political entity by a group of its citizens or subjects; also, any act of engaging in such a revolt." Protest-action shows disapproval or disagreement in something. Riot-violent and uncontrolled behavior about anything. Insurrection-violent uprising against authority or government. | |||
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Well it damn sure wasn’t organized and only mildly violent as no weaponry utilized. A riot of idiots. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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