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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
you are the dude with the dogsuit fantasy -- and i've repeatedly told you that you advances are unwelcome -- and no, i don't care if you are used to using a butthurt cream after "meetings" at brokeback hunting lodge --

I am good - you can put that back in your purse

it's kinda sick that you keep putting the pic of a cute little dog on your fantasies -- please, steve, don't even ask that puppy for consent -- that's such a weird statement, even ...

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
you are the dude with the dogsuit fantasy -- and i've repeatedly told you that you advances are unwelcome -- and no, i don't care if you are used to using a butthurt cream after "meetings" at brokeback hunting lodge --

I am good - you can put that back in your purse

it's kinda sick that you keep putting the pic of a cute little dog on your fantasies -- please, steve, don't even ask that puppy for consent -- that's such a weird statement, even ...

Daisey honey, see if Fifi is free for a date at the dog park.

Sorry you took offense to your picture being posted, sometimes I take liberties like that. You will likely get used to it.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Goodness, what a cute puppy --

You are at that, now go lay down honey.

but you fantasy of a grown man in a puppy suit is whacky -- No means NO, honey

Could you explain the difference between say, being referred to as Daisey VS Fifi? That should be easy to articulate for such an educated idiot as yourself. Tell us about your Fifi fantasies...or maybe this has nothing to do with dog fantasies and everything to do with a bad case of butthurt....poor thing you. Maybe this will help with your pain Daisey.
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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Goodness, what a cute puppy --

You are at that, now go lay down honey.

but you fantasy of a grown man in a puppy suit is whacky -- No means NO, honey

Could you explain the difference between say, being referred to as Daisey VS Fifi? That should be easy to articulate for such an educated idiot as yourself. Tell us about your Fifi fantasies...or maybe this has nothing to do with dog fantasies and everything to do with a bad case of butthurt....poor thing you. Maybe this will help with your pain Daisey.
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1: are you fifi's boyfriend, to stand up for him? if HE had a problem with it, he'd say so -- so, unless you his lifemate, it's actually none yo business --
2: are you actually an idiot, or pretend to play one on the internet? FiFi has NOTHING to do with dogs or females - your ignorance isn't my problem
3: YOU keep pursuing it, after being told I am uninterested -- i don't kink shame, but I am not interested .. i'd say "imagine how you treat women in real life" but your kink isn't about women

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
Are there people here who actually believe government agencies, at all levels, do not misappropriate and misallocate taxpayer's money? Who here does not believe the guy building the bridge doesn't subsidize the lifestyle of the guy taking credit for the bridge? Who believes it is right and just for the government to saddle our great grandchildren with debt in order to buy favor around the world? The truth is the ruling class always takes from the working class and never gives back commensurate with what is taken. This applies to democracies, socialist states, oligarchies, or monarchies.
It is truly too bad the work being attempted by Musk couldn't be done by an honest independent entity, but it doesn't seem like such a thing exists. Playing the long game by trying to prevent radicalization of youth in foreign countries, is not a terrible idea. Monitoring the spending vs. the benefit is not a bad idea either. Paying for wokeism in potentially adversarial nations might not be a bad idea either. Then they can be just as effed-up as we are.
My point is, as usual, nothing is black and white. If Musk exposes waste and corruption, that is a good thing. If Musk, or his people, profit greatly by doing so, that is just more of the same old bullshit under a new name.
We will never eliminate waste and corruption in government, but that doesn't mean we should not try to do so. Partisan watchdogs are unlikely to be uniformly successful in ferreting out waste (they will always have blinders on) but at least an effort is being made.
Lies by both sides will, of course, continue. That is the American way. Media outlets, regardless of their slant, will continue to blow smoke up our collective ass. Musk is doing what he is because it needs to be done. It needs to be done because nobody else has ever done it. I don't believe the purging of waste will be done equitably or even effectively, but an attempt is at least being made. Those squealing the loudest are likely to be those most deserving of a good purging. Regards, Bill.

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Those squealing the loudest are likely to be those most deserving of a good purging. Regards,

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by JTEX:
Elon,is doing something that should have been done years ago. I guess bill likes paying high taxes and them being used to pay for sesame Street in iraq....

Political Party Solidarity, the new patriotism.

Pot, meet kettle.

Elon was awesome until he changed sides.

Are you against uncovering Government corruption? Wasted tax dollars? health conspiracies? If you are, it's simply because you know who's side is responsible.

Just wait for this to all ferret out.

Wait till Doge sinks its claws into the defense spending apparatus.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by JTEX:
Elon,is doing something that should have been done years ago. I guess bill likes paying high taxes and them being used to pay for sesame Street in iraq....

Political Party Solidarity, the new patriotism.

Pot, meet kettle.

Elon was awesome until he changed sides.

Are you against uncovering Government corruption? Wasted tax dollars? health conspiracies? If you are, it's simply because you know who's side is responsible.

Just wait for this to all ferret out.

Wait till Doge sinks its claws into the defense spending apparatus.

I find it just unbelievable that anyone, anyone at all could be upset with the move to eliminate government waste??????

No matter which side is respiratory for it.

This has got to be TDS ....... Trump is having it done so it must be bad?

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by JTEX:

I find it just unbelievable that anyone, anyone at all could be upset with the move to eliminate government waste??????

No matter which side is respiratory for it.

This has got to be TDS ....... Trump is having it done so it must be bad?

+1 with Jim and Steve

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by JTEX:

I find it just unbelievable that anyone, anyone at all could be upset with the move to eliminate government waste??????

No matter which side is respiratory for it.

This has got to be TDS ....... Trump is having it done so it must be bad?

+1 with Jim and Steve

What makes you think it's about govt "waste"? It's a simple question.

Could it be that is the buzz word used by the Rightist propaganda machine?

It means nothing but a buzz word until there's proof that's the mission in a nutshell.

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Would you call ending government leases totaling 420 million on unoccupied buildings a waste?

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Would you call ending government leases totaling 420 million on unoccupied buildings a waste?

What do you call it?

Since all the info you gave, assuming it has any truth at all, is "ending govt leases", "totaling 420 million", "unoccupied buildings", I don't know enough facts to declare that combo of info alone supports a conclusion, waste or folly or lie, or whatever. You didn't source your info either.

So, you see, you helped make my point. Apparently the info you gave is enough for you to conclude it was cutting waste.

We have no idea as to what or why the (hypothetical) buildings were leased for or short or long term intentions or other relevant facts and circumstances, such as contract terms, downside costs if any, etc.

Another point is that Trump nor musk can be trusted, since supposedly they are serving us, but fail to tell the truth and provide proof they are actually serving us practically, not ideologically.

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Do you honestly think I don't have receipts?

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Originally posted by JTEX:
Dear God these lefties will dance.....their TDS is beyond reason....we all knew that Mangina was just a fucking moron...but damn....it seems they love it that their tax dollars are being wasted!

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
I knew that you would follow along like a good sheep Lane, I never doubted you for a second.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
I knew that you would follow along like a good sheep Lane, I never doubted you for a second.

there's the whacky dominance game where other people are animals, again ...

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
I knew that you would follow along like a good sheep Lane, I never doubted you for a second.

there's the whacky dominance game where other people are animals, again ...

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Good girl Daisey, fetch the ball. Good dog, now go lay down.

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Originally posted by nute:
https://www.independent.co.uk/...ration-b2695738.html

Tesla sales down circa 60% in France and Germany in Jan compared to last year, possibly as a result of his support for the far right in Germany.
Sales down 11% in China compared to a rise of 50% for BYD.

Hopefully only a temporary situation but Elon does have a tendency to shoot his mouth off. He ain’t going to go bust.

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Tesla sales are dropping around the world
Tesla took a tumble Tuesday when details emerged about softer sales in the automaker’s non-US territories. Some of this was already known — Tesla reported fewer deliveries than expected last month, and certainly those sales shortfalls had to happen somewhere — but since Tesla doesn’t break out regional sales, the troublesome regions weren’t exactly known.

According to Reuters, sales were down 11.5% in China, and new data from Wards Intelligence pegs the US decline in January at 13% year over year, which does sting. It’s Europe, though, where Tesla might be fretting the most, reporting from the Financial Times shows:

In January, sales were down 63% year over year in France.
Sales were down 59.5% over the same period in Germany.
Sales dropped 38% in Norway.
The UK drop was somewhat more measured, coming in at 8%.
Those are some rough numbers on the continent, as rising competition — especially from Chinese EVs — and a potential shift in the perception of Tesla front man Elon Musk have had analysts reconsidering their assessment of the firm.

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:

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Originally posted by nute:
https://www.independent.co.uk/...ration-b2695738.html

Tesla sales down circa 60% in France and Germany in Jan compared to last year, possibly as a result of his support for the far right in Germany.
Sales down 11% in China compared to a rise of 50% for BYD.

Hopefully only a temporary situation but Elon does have a tendency to shoot his mouth off. He ain’t going to go bust.

The common term for them being “Swasticars” probably doesn’t help. You’d have to have a pretty thick skin to buy one.

In addition, having his satellites falling out of the sky one after the other has to be pretty expensive. 120 came down in January alone. I’m sure taking control of the U.S. treasury will be a big help…

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:

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Originally posted by nute:
https://www.independent.co.uk/...ration-b2695738.html

Tesla sales down circa 60% in France and Germany in Jan compared to last year, possibly as a result of his support for the far right in Germany.
Sales down 11% in China compared to a rise of 50% for BYD.

Hopefully only a temporary situation but Elon does have a tendency to shoot his mouth off. He ain’t going to go bust.

The common term for them being “Swasticars” probably doesn’t help. You’d have to have a pretty thick skin to buy one.

In addition, having his satellites falling out of the sky one after the other has to be pretty expensive. 120 came down in January alone. I’m sure taking control of the U.S. treasury will be a big help…

And firing watchdogs, shutting reg agencies, AGs, and much more, all per plan. He's still got the ace of spades in Trump and will play that hand. It's hard to figure that symbiotic bro relationship. That is if it's "bro" at all. It's like two jets flying supersonic, wing tip to wing tip. How long can they maintain it and when the break comes who will crash and burn? Who is the best strategist in planning under the bus for the other. They are both experienced. Neither will go quietly.

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Tesla sales are dropping around the world
Tesla took a tumble Tuesday when details emerged about softer sales in the automaker’s non-US territories. Some of this was already known — Tesla reported fewer deliveries than expected last month, and certainly those sales shortfalls had to happen somewhere — but since Tesla doesn’t break out regional sales, the troublesome regions weren’t exactly known.

According to Reuters, sales were down 11.5% in China, and new data from Wards Intelligence pegs the US decline in January at 13% year over year, which does sting. It’s Europe, though, where Tesla might be fretting the most, reporting from the Financial Times shows:

In January, sales were down 63% year over year in France.
Sales were down 59.5% over the same period in Germany.
Sales dropped 38% in Norway.
The UK drop was somewhat more measured, coming in at 8%.
Those are some rough numbers on the continent, as rising competition — especially from Chinese EVs — and a potential shift in the perception of Tesla front man Elon Musk have had analysts reconsidering their assessment of the firm.

Yet the worldwide sales of EVs was up 18% in January.

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Originally posted by nute:

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Tesla sales are dropping around the world
Tesla took a tumble Tuesday when details emerged about softer sales in the automaker’s non-US territories. Some of this was already known — Tesla reported fewer deliveries than expected last month, and certainly those sales shortfalls had to happen somewhere — but since Tesla doesn’t break out regional sales, the troublesome regions weren’t exactly known.

According to Reuters, sales were down 11.5% in China, and new data from Wards Intelligence pegs the US decline in January at 13% year over year, which does sting. It’s Europe, though, where Tesla might be fretting the most, reporting from the Financial Times shows:

In January, sales were down 63% year over year in France.
Sales were down 59.5% over the same period in Germany.
Sales dropped 38% in Norway.
The UK drop was somewhat more measured, coming in at 8%.
Those are some rough numbers on the continent, as rising competition — especially from Chinese EVs — and a potential shift in the perception of Tesla front man Elon Musk have had analysts reconsidering their assessment of the firm.

Yet the worldwide sales of EVs was up 18% in January.

Yep, mainly Chinese brands such as BYD, who had a 50% sales increase over jan last year.