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A letter from over 100 Texas doctors urging changes to the law, they most certainly have made a statement and the law is most certainly very flawed.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tex...akers-220344586.html
 
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A letter from over 100 Texas doctors urging changes to the law, they most certainly have made a statement and the law is most certainly very flawed.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tex...akers-220344586.html


There are over 100,000 licensed physicians in Texas.
So, 1/10th of one percent of them signed that letter.

Makes no difference to the case at hand.
Malpractice killed that girl, not a bunch of evil Christian men or abortion law.
 
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Exactly what part makes you want to puke? That is, if you are patriotic? Roll Eyes
The evidence to which Trump alluded (if true) certainly should have been investigated. The POTUS has a duty to help assure fair elections as did the Sec of State for Georgia. Trump’s willingness to share information (which was refused) concerning allegations of fraud, when litigation ensued, were never tried before a finder-of-fact but were dismissed on procedural grounds.

Again, why would Trump’s legal request to meet and share information make a patriotic American want to puke.

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I certainly don’t have a vote in Texas giving me any ability to impose anything, religious or otherwise. I’m just bemused by folks who take statistical anomalies to bizarre extremes to justify baseless opinions that folks who a wish to control have successfully terrorized voters into believing.

I have read the links and thy raise more questions than provide answers.

Here’s another example:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03...ranscript/index.html

Where’s the crime herein?
Multiple times here posters claim bizarre contents. It’s just not there but millions of sheep believe differently.


Are you in full control of your mental faculties?

That transcript is enough to make any patriotic American puke.

Texas has most certainly been denying health care to pregnant women in need, as spelled out in the article.

cuckoo


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A letter from over 100 Texas doctors urging changes to the law, they most certainly have made a statement and the law is most certainly very flawed.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tex...akers-220344586.html


There are over 100,000 licensed physicians in Texas.
So, 1/10th of one percent of them signed that letter.

Makes no difference to the case at hand.
Malpractice killed that girl, not a bunch of evil Christian men or abortion law.


Show me a letter signed by doctors who support YOUR position.
 
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Exactly what part makes you want to puke?


All of it, the attempted theft of the whole election, but this sums it up:

"All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have,"

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A letter from over 100 Texas doctors urging changes to the law, they most certainly have made a statement and the law is most certainly very flawed.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tex...akers-220344586.html


There are over 100,000 licensed physicians in Texas.
So, 1/10th of one percent of them signed that letter.

Makes no difference to the case at hand.
Malpractice killed that girl, not a bunch of evil Christian men or abortion law.


Show me a letter signed by doctors who support YOUR position.


Does the Hippocratic Oath qualify?
 
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Many of them consider women to be property, and automatically expect them to vote as they are told.

These are not smart, evolved people.

Jeff,
Your so full of crap your eyes are brown.


Thank you for your valuable contribution to the discussion, it will receive exactly the consideration it deserves.

Oh I'm crushed by your reply, I don't know if I can carry on anymore.
 
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Enough said. There links to support points in the editorial in the link below.

NY Times Editorial

NY TIMES
OPINION | THE EDITORIAL BOARD

You already know Donald Trump. He is unfit to lead. Watch him. Listen to those who know him best. He tried to subvert an election and remains a threat to democracy. He helped overturn Roe, with terrible consequences. Mr. Trump’s corruption and lawlessness go beyond elections: It’s his whole ethos. He lies without limit. If he’s re-elected, the G.O.P. won’t restrain him. Mr. Trump will use the government to go after opponents. He will pursue a cruel policy of mass deportations. He will wreak havoc on the poor, the middle class and employers. Another Trump term will damage the climate, shatter alliances and strengthen autocrats. Americans should demand better. Vote.


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Does the Hippocratic Oath qualify?


Apparently not in regard to pregnant women living in Texas.
 
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This is the newspaper that got Pulitzers for the factually inaccurate 1619 series and the Russian hoax, not to forget the Hunter laptop. The Gray Lady is on her deathbed due to biased and inaccurate reporting.
She used to be the flagship of American news, but just an empty shell of herself.

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Enough said. There links to support points in the editorial in the link below.

NY Times Editorial

NY TIMES
OPINION | THE EDITORIAL BOARD

You already know Donald Trump. He is unfit to lead. Watch him. Listen to those who know him best. He tried to subvert an election and remains a threat to democracy. He helped overturn Roe, with terrible consequences. Mr. Trump’s corruption and lawlessness go beyond elections: It’s his whole ethos. He lies without limit. If he’s re-elected, the G.O.P. won’t restrain him. Mr. Trump will use the government to go after opponents. He will pursue a cruel policy of mass deportations. He will wreak havoc on the poor, the middle class and employers. Another Trump term will damage the climate, shatter alliances and strengthen autocrats. Americans should demand better. Vote.


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Unless there is another fraudulent election, I'm predicting a Republican win for the Presidency, as well as a majority in the Senate and the House.
 
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Wow! watching the panic and despair on twitter right now!
 
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Yeah, I love watching MSNBC and CNN when it goes bad for them. They are hilarious.
 
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I can certainly be wrong, have been before and almost certainly will be again, but I do not think this election is nearly as close as the "pollsters" have maintained, and I expect in the next couple days we'll see many of them moving Harris' way as they "unweight" their analysis to avoid being starkly wrong.

My prediction is that Harris will win the Popular Vote by a large margin (I wouldn't be surprised at 10 million+), she will win most or all of the "swing" States despite the best efforts by the Republicans to suppress votes and she will likely pick up two or three States that Trump won comfortably in 2020.

Women will decide this election.

We'll know in a few days how close I was, or wasn't.


Yes, jeffi, yes you can!

I would stick with being a bitter old internet troll.....you have no future at prophecy!


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"I'm all right! Nobody's worried about me!" (from Caddy Shack).

MSNBC seems to be resigned to losing and hoping to preserve the house. Good luck with that!
 
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It see!s to me that president trump is,building a mandate...

The people are speaking!
 
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I don’t either.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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While I am glad that we have a conservative (by policy) president elect, it is and was a close election. The total vote at least seems to indicate that Trump won the total popular vote. That should maybe silence some of the naysayers.

That being said, it isn’t a widespread mandate. It was a close race. Less than 100,000 votes moved around would have likely changed results considerably.

The republicans have the difficult task of bringing a virulently split population together. It’s going to be difficult.

Yes, the GOP looks like it has all the elected branches in its control… by the slimmest of margins.

They need to convince the population they were the right choice and govern effectively.

If Trump goes down the democrat road of trying to use the legal system to get revenge, the democrats will take both houses back in 2 years and the presidency in 4.

I would think that governing fairly and without too much self aggrandizement would be relatively simple, although I have my doubts it will happen by experience.

We have been having bigger swings in public policy than the election results have warranted for years… probably since Reagan’s time.

I hope we see some return to the old style of government function (the old filibuster, and proper decorum in governance as an example) but kind of doubt we will see that. If Trump can learn, maybe things will go better.

On the other hand, the results do say that the founders were right about the Capitol and the need to rein in DC.

The rest of the nation is pretty evenly split, yet the city where most of the residents work for government votes out of touch to the rest of the country over 90% to the losing candidate. That shows that government is both out of touch with the governed, and that some serious changes need to be made with how our central government operates.

I get “drain the swamp” as a slogan, but it’s not that simple.
 
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He won the battleground states by a percentage point give or take.

I do not see, read, follow this at all.

On the other hand, the results do say that the founders were right about the Capitol and the need to rein in DC.


The “ Founders” at least the ones who won the debate at the Constitutional Convention were pro fed government.
 
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The founders felt that the nations Capitol was not a state and that being so intimate with the federal government did not need representatives or senators.

I tend to think they thought that any federal employment would be transitory and the idea of perpetual folks staffing congressional offices or government was anathema.

The point being if DC votes so out of whack with the rest of the nation, they should not be given voting representation in the National government a la states.

They have voted over 90% for one party in multiple elections. That’s a sign of disconnect from the rest of the nation.

That DC gets 3 electoral college votes seems outsized by comparison to other states, let alone that these folks have the power of access and unofficial power in the Capitol.
 
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I guess if you're going to be wrong you might as well be real wrong.

I do not understand the numbers, reporting was that record numbers were voting early, absentee and then Election Day yet Trump got 3 million fewer than he did in 2020 and Harris got about 15 million fewer than Biden did?

How can that be?


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Jeff, Ive been telling you for a long time why.
The election has been about who you dont want in power, and the dems were betting on that being trump. Rather than nominating a candidate who would win.
It was conceit and arrogance from the democratic party elites that elected trump.
 
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I guess if you're going to be wrong you might as well be real wrong.

I do not understand the numbers, reporting was that record numbers were voting early, absentee and then Election Day yet Trump got 3 million fewer than he did in 2020 and Harris got about 15 million fewer than Biden did?

How can that be?


Well, I will take a stab at it by asking you a question. How did this happen?



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He won the battleground states by a percentage point give or take.


All of them and the blue wall…along with boosting senatorial candidates…dragging the house back…and carrying the popular.

I will say it was an indisputable resounding defeat. tu2


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Does not change the fact that percentage point stands to break away and his party lose if they want to govern like everyone agrees w them.
 
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Does not change the fact that percentage point stands to break away and his party lose if they want to govern like everyone agrees w them.



Three Quarters of the Country stated the WOKE Democrats were taking the country in the wrong direction. The WOKE Dems had a resounding defeat.
 
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Does not change the fact that percentage point stands to break away and his party lose if they want to govern like everyone agrees w them.


Frankly I am pleased it wasn't a "mandate" and should be seen as a forced choice situation


Some might say it doesn't matter if it's a millimeter or a mile, I reject that in terms of mandate.

On the other hand, 1 pt wins almost every other game


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When a Republican wins all the blue wall…its a mandate.


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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And if cows and trees voted.

The swing states were decided by 1 percentage point ruin to your version of the right and watch your teeth get kicked in, in 2 years.

Again.
 
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And if cows and trees voted.

The swing states were decided by 1 percentage point ruin to your version of the right and watch your teeth get kicked in, in 2 years.

Again.


I agree with your sentiment but your math is wrong
Georgia Almost 2%
NC 3.5
Penn 2
Az 5.5
Mi 1.5
Ne 3.6

Roughly triple bidens margins

AP has a handy chart available
https://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2024/

Scroll down a bit


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My version just won big all across the country.


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Heym needs to get way better at predictions than this last time before he has any creds.
 
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And if cows and trees voted.

The swing states were decided by 1 percentage point ruin to your version of the right and watch your teeth get kicked in, in 2 years.

Again.


I agree with your sentiment but your math is wrong
Georgia Almost 2%
NC 3.5
Penn 2
Az 5.5
Mi 1.5
Ne 3.6

Roughly triple bidens margins

AP has a handy chart available
https://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2024/

Scroll down a bit


Ten four.
 
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Interesting new from Iowa

https://www.theguardian.com/us...ump-harris-iowa-poll



Hey little naki,
WOW, can you explain to us all, with lived experience, how this prediction was a myth


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You left off Wisconsin which was less than 1 percent.

Penn was 2.5 percent, Michigan was less than 1 percent 49.7 to 48.3, and Wisconsin less than 1.

A give or take 1-2 percent swing in those three states and Harris is president.

I do not consider NE a swing state.

I stand correct. Dr. Easter and Trump can govern like we all need to now and get kicked on the teeth in 2 years.

Thus, I am not corrected. 1-2 percent and Harris is president.
 
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The total loss of all battlegrounds and removal of the blue wall.

The intelligent know that is a mandate. It was a shellacking.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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You left off Wisconsin which was less than 1 percent.

Penn was 2.5 percent, Michigan was less than 1 percent 49.7 to 48.3, and Wisconsin less than 1.

A give or take 1-2 percent swing in those three states and Harris is president.

I do not consider NE a swing state.

I stand correct. Dr. Easter and Trump can govern like we all need to now and get kicked on the teeth in 2 years.

Thus, I am not corrected. 1-2 percent and Harris is president.

Uhm, math? 49.7-48.3 is more than 1percent


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What seems to be an even bigger issue, It the millions that decided not to vote for Kamala.
 
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I am planning on doing a little data science on the election results compared to voter participation rates, per state per county when all the results are in. If it's a blanket, then there is likely no real anomaly, if it's pockets, well, it will be interesting.. with pivots on states requiring voter ID (from year to year) and then SD analysis over 40 years vs participation rate

Not TRYING to "prove" anything, rather id where the big changes are.

My working hypothesis is that it's a relatively few counties, but I'll be happy to have more peanut butter spread.

Naki, honey, I know this is beyond you, as its actually a mathematical analysis, not yap yap yap opinion. I know, I know, it's elitist to review actual facts and numbers vs feelz

I am concerned with the red arrow graphic that shows so many counties moving red on 2024


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That is worth while endeavor.

I actually look forward to the results.
 
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