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They've been exposed. Listen to the JRE podcast. His guest has guys like the loony liberals in here pegged. Their game, their tactics and the reasons they are failing.


let me guess, and Lindell has the evidence on a USB drive?

Not being a Trumptard does not make someone liberal. I voted for the orange asshole in 2016 and have voted GOP plenty, still would if they would get back to governing and drop the culture war.


I personally don't like the man. He lost me as to his personality when he mocked the disabled reporter. I have a disabled son, and think only a reprobate ridicules the disabled.

I don't like the movement on the other side. It is a binary choice Steve. Trump or Biden. Biden is bad for America, Trump, isn't as bad.

Heck the left in here is still trying to convince us that the border is not open and that inflation isn't Biden's responsibility.


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I watched Reagan govern in real-time. My Dad was an ardent supporter. Reagan was an anti-establishment guy and would be appalled at the direction of the country.

Make no mistake…he would be an outspoken supporter of President Trump…just like my Dad.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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And you learned nothing.

Again, go read up on the above.
 
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George Washington would heartily approve of Joe Biden's public service.


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The Founders NEVER envisioned lifetime politicians and even frowned upon the thought. Washington stepped aside when he was offered lifetime appointment.


Quite the contrast to Trump failing to concede when he lost and then attempting to steal the election don't you think?


The Founders could also never envision all the bullshit shenanigans pulled today by the activist NGOs and would have never gone for mail-in ballots. They didn’t even like non-productive people even having a vote.

Imagine asking Thomas Jefferson what he would think of Stacey Abrams NGO pulling into a section 8 housing complex with a stack of blank ballots and cases of sloe gin and cartons of cigarettes and then the NGO delivering those ballots to drop boxes.

He would think we were f***ing NUTS!


A career politician compared to a career grifter, con artist, fraudster, pussy grabber? It comes down to who is more qualified regarding actual governance? Why would anyone trust a grifter over someone who has made it through the vicious political gauntlet?

Of course Jefferson didn't like non-productive people. He owned slaves.


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George Washington would heartily approve of Joe Biden's public service.


Roll Eyes

The Founders NEVER envisioned lifetime politicians and even frowned upon the thought. Washington stepped aside when he was offered lifetime appointment.


Quite the contrast to Trump failing to concede when he lost and then attempting to steal the election don't you think?


The Founders could also never envision all the bullshit shenanigans pulled today by the activist NGOs and would have never gone for mail-in ballots. They didn’t even like non-productive people even having a vote.

Imagine asking Thomas Jefferson what he would think of Stacey Abrams NGO pulling into a section 8 housing complex with a stack of blank ballots and cases of sloe gin and cartons of cigarettes and then the NGO delivering those ballots to drop boxes.

He would think we were f***ing NUTS!


A career politician compared to a career grifter, con artist, fraudster, pussy grabber? It comes down to who is more qualified regarding actual governance? Why would anyone trust a grifter over someone who has made it through the gauntlet?

Of course Jefferson didn't like non-productive people. He owned slaves.


Another thing that disgusts me about Trump, He showered with his daughter!!!! What kind of freak does that!!


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They've been exposed. Listen to the JRE podcast. His guest has guys like the loony liberals in here pegged. Their game, their tactics and the reasons they are failing.


let me guess, and Lindell has the evidence on a USB drive?

Not being a Trumptard does not make someone liberal. I voted for the orange asshole in 2016 and have voted GOP plenty, still would if they would get back to governing and drop the culture war.


I personally don't like the man. He lost me as to his personality when he mocked the disabled reporter. I have a disabled son, and think only a reprobate ridicules the disabled.

I don't like the movement on the other side. It is a binary choice Steve. Trump or Biden. Biden is bad for America, Trump, isn't as bad.

Heck the left in here is still trying to convince us that the border is not open and that inflation isn't Biden's responsibility.



I cannot vote for Trump after seeing despicable behavior, the mocking of the disabled reporter is only one of many examples. See his comments on veterans, just disgusting.

Biden's border policy is his biggest failure, all self inflicted too.


Inflation is a worldwide issue, If it was related to Biden's policies then other nations who have had different policies would be seeing different outcomes, that is not the case. Our economy is rocking, inflation or not.

Of the Two, I see Trump as far, far worse for America.
 
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The U.S. / Mexico border is 1,954 miles in length.

All I hear is “close the border!”. How would YOU close the border?

Build a wall? They’ll go over it, dig under it, cut through it just as they do now.

Put up a series of machine gun towers 1/4 mile apart? That’s about 8,000 of them, manned 24 hours a day in 2-man 8 hour shifts. That’s about 48,000 men, not counting infrastructure and management.

Seriously, how would YOU close the border?

I noticed Biden tried to get a border bill passed - but Trumps obedient little lapdogs shot it down on his personal behalf.
 
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The U.S. / Mexico border is 1,954 miles in length.

All I hear is “close the border!”. How would YOU close the border?

Build a wall? They’ll go over it, dig under it, cut through it just as they do now.

Put up a series of machine gun towers 1/4 mile apart? That’s about 8,000 of them, manned 24 hours a day in 2-man 8 hour shifts. That’s about 48,000 men, not counting infrastructure and management.

Seriously, how would YOU close the border?

I noticed Biden tried to get a border bill passed - but Trumps obedient little lapdogs shot it down on his personal behalf.


That bill was a suicide pact and any reasonable American knows it. 8500 "immigrants a day. If Biden decided he wanted more, he had executive authority to increase it, on a whim.

The border agents were simply to process more "immigrants", NOT FOR ANY ENFORCEMENT.

The immigration attorneys, well, you can figure that one out. The entire bill was a fuck up.

Perhaps if you just look at the numbers under Biden, then look at them under Trump, you'd see a gigantic difference.

Biden cancelled ~94 border related trump policies and XO's, his second or third day in office.Don't believe me? read this. Debate me with facts, not hyperbole.

https://www.migrationpolicy.or...en-executive-actions


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Your speech is policed more than our southern border...


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Listen to this "liberal":

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"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
 
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The Real Donald Trump by Those Who Know Him Best


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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The question was - WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO SEAL THE BORDER.

The answer, apparently, is to dance around both the question and the problem, tout the guy you irrationally like, and blame the guy you irrationally don’t.

There’s your real look into the surrendered mind of the classic Trumpite. I swear, it’s 1939 all over again, with Molotov and Ribbentrop deciding how they want to divide up the world.


Trump has a secret plan this time. He couldn't do it in 4 years, two of them with both the House and Senate, but he would succeed if given just one more chance.


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Top Republican hands Democrats massive GIFT


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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George Washington would heartily approve of Joe Biden's public service.


Roll Eyes

The Founders NEVER envisioned lifetime politicians and even frowned upon the thought. Washington stepped aside when he was offered lifetime appointment.


Quite the contrast to Trump failing to concede when he lost and then attempting to steal the election don't you think?


The Founders could also never envision all the bullshit shenanigans pulled today by the activist NGOs and would have never gone for mail-in ballots. They didn’t even like non-productive people even having a vote.

Imagine asking Thomas Jefferson what he would think of Stacey Abrams NGO pulling into a section 8 housing complex with a stack of blank ballots and cases of sloe gin and cartons of cigarettes and then the NGO delivering those ballots to drop boxes.

He would think we were f***ing NUTS!


A career politician compared to a career grifter, con artist, fraudster, pussy grabber? It comes down to who is more qualified regarding actual governance? Why would anyone trust a grifter over someone who has made it through the vicious political gauntlet?

Of course Jefferson didn't like non-productive people. He owned slaves.


Alexander Hamilton, writing in 1792 to George Washington: “The only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion. . . When a man unprincipled in private life[,] desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper … is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity … It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may ‘ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.’”


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
 
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And you learned nothing.

Again, go read up on the above.


One thing I have learned is that my good friend JTEX has always been correct about you. You are a power-hungry ideologue who can’t see the forest for the trees.

I was in my first year of veterinary school when Reagan gave that speech. I lived in a trailer house outside of Bryan, TX and got 2-3 channels of TV through a makeshift antenna.

I made sure I watched him give that speech in real-time from the Oval Office and more importantly I listened!

I was a strong follower of Reagan as was my Dad. It was a way different day and time than today. The world was actually moving in the right direction. The USA was something to be proud of.

If Ronald Reagan were resurrected today…he would be sick to his stomach. While his immediate predecessors, even Clinton, didn’t tear down his work…the changes 0bama and Biden impaled us with would feel like a spear through his own heart.

I can guarantee that if Ronald Reagan were alive today…he would be a vociferous supporter of Trump policy — just like the remaining men who worked for him like Levin, Laffer, and Kudlow.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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The U.S. / Mexico border is 1,954 miles in length.

All I hear is “close the border!”. How would YOU close the border?

Build a wall? They’ll go over it, dig under it, cut through it just as they do now.

Put up a series of machine gun towers 1/4 mile apart? That’s about 8,000 of them, manned 24 hours a day in 2-man 8 hour shifts. That’s about 48,000 men, not counting infrastructure and management.

Seriously, how would YOU close the border?

I would close it with the US Military. It would be a piece of cake for them and their technology. Walls where walls would help.

I noticed Biden tried to get a border bill passed - but Trumps obedient little lapdogs shot it down on his personal behalf.

Steve’s analysis here is spot on.


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Well, as the hard-core True Believer Zealot's righteous convictions foment, the Great Divide becomes the Abyss. Thanks to Fox and Newsmax for helping all that.

The zealots have such political weapons as Heritage Foundation and the Left has the ACLU and what remains of a legal system.

If Trump wins, it will indeed be a disaster for the rule of law, civil liberties, the environment, etc. And Lane will rejoice in the means and the end.

There is no reason to doubt that projected consequence.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...6741249bf8601&ei=127

All We Must Do Is Survive Four Years’
Opinion by Ronald Brownstein • 1h •

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The pace of the organization’s legal combat against Trump never let up. Ultimately the ACLU filed more than 250 lawsuits against Trump’s administration on issues as varied as immigration, abortion, contraception, fair housing, and the rights of racial-justice protesters forcibly dispersed by federal troops around the White House.

Like environmental groups, media outlets, and other institutions to the left of center in American politics, the ACLU experienced a renewed burst of relevance and visibility during the Trump years. Fueled by the demand for unstinting “resistance” from the many voters and donors stunned by Trump’s election and horrified by his actions, the group’s staff during his presidency roughly doubled, its budget nearly tripled, and its membership increased by a factor of four.

Ronald Brownstein: When you look across both what Trump has explicitly already said and what you see unfolding in the red states as a template, what are you most concerned about in terms of civil rights and civil liberties in a second Trump term?

Anthony D. Romero: Our greatest concerns have to do with the areas where Donald Trump already has a track record. Clearly, we expect him to double down on the immigration issue. It is the centerpiece of his “Make America great again” ideology. The Muslim ban was the first executive order he signed.

We can expect a militarization of the border, the third-country transit ban, the shutting down of asylum. This time, he’s likely to make good on his promise to create a deportation force and enact nationwide deportations. So immigration will be front and center.

A second issue will be abortion, because it is animating politics in the Republican Party. Trump is already playing with the idea of a federal abortion ban—whether it’s 14 weeks, 15 weeks, he hasn’t made up his mind yet—but it’s clear that is the direction he’s going to be pushed into by his party.

Certainly he will address the other culture-war grievances from the Republican Party: restrictions on gender-affirming health care for transgender individuals; attacks on diversity, equity, and inclusion; the attack on birthright citizenship. He said it was a target when he was running for office the first time around, but he didn’t do anything on it; this time he is more likely to. Birthright citizenship, in addition to it being at the core of the immigration issue, is also at the core of race relations and racial justice. It was the way that America converted African slaves into U.S. citizens. It is hallowed ground for the civil-rights community, which is an invitation for him to trample all over it.

The final set of buckets, I would say, would be around his weaponization of the Department of Justice to go after his political adversaries; his threatened use of the Insurrection Act to curtail demonstrations; the threat to use police and even the National Guard to deal with crime in blue cities. He’s going to want to pick a fight in blue-state jurisdictions and use the power of the federal government to do so.

Brownstein: Why do you think that this term could be more difficult even than his first?

Romero: I think the adults in the Republican Party are not going to get in the room with him this time. I think you will only have the most zealous and ideological of players join a second Trump administration, and the institutionalists and the establishment types who curtailed his worst abuses will be in a form of exile even while they are in power.

The retirement of Mitch McConnell, health issues aside, points to this very issue: The institutionalists and the establishment Republicans are not going to populate the administration and the Cabinet the way they once did. Stephen Miller will be more like the norm rather than the exception.

Then I think they are going to be smarter and more experienced and therefore more effective the second time around. They are not going to make rookie mistakes like the Muslim ban—the fact that it took them three tries to perfect it. I think you see a greater level of focus even in what he talks about on the campaign and the [lack of focus] that was endemic to Trump One might be mitigated with greater discipline and greater focus the second time around.

Brownstein: In the interview where Miller laid out in remarkable detail their plans on mass deportation, he also said, We’re going to be doing so many things at once that no one can respond to, and that is part of the strategy.

Romero: I don’t doubt it. And in some ways, they have finally woken up to the fact that what they have on their side is the scale of the federal government. It was always a bit astonishing to me that we could make as much progress as we could in Trump’s first term, given the awesome asymmetry between the power of the federal government and the power of civil society.

Brownstein: In the interview where Miller laid out in remarkable detail their plans on mass deportation, he also said, We’re going to be doing so many things at once that no one can respond to, and that is part of the strategy.

Romero: I don’t doubt it. And in some ways, they have finally woken up to the fact that what they have on their side is the scale of the federal government. It was always a bit astonishing to me that we could make as much progress as we could in Trump’s first term, given the awesome asymmetry between the power of the federal government and the power of civil society.

Brownstein: What is your feeling about the kind of bulwark the Supreme Court will be for civil liberties?

Romero: I am worried, and yet I think we must give it our best shot. At this point, all we need to do is get to five [votes on the Supreme Court], and on any case or controversy, the point is, what other two justices can you peel away [to join the three Democratic-appointed justices]? I’m not willing to give up the litigation ghost in a second Trump administration. At some level, all we must do is survive four years; we don’t have to survive eight years of Trump. All we have to do is play for his final four years, because that’s all he’s got.

Brownstein: What do you consider potentially the most volatile or incendiary of his proposals? To me, the various ways in which he is talking about using federal forces in blue cities seems the most explosive.

Romero: Definitely. The deportation force can implicate 11 million to 13 million undocumented people. Remember that undocumented people live in families and communities alongside many American citizens, so the level of disruption when you start ripping out people who don’t have legal papers can be extensive.

[Ronald Brownstein: Trump’s ‘knock on the door’]

Certainly, the power of the National Guard and use of the Insurrection Act put a lot of things at his fingertips that are incredibly worrisome. That’s why litigation, I think, will be important; litigation preserves the status quo, litigation takes time, and when you are buying time, that is a good thing.

Litigation also helps focus public attention. Part of what happened in the first Trump administration is the avalanche of Trump policies and outrages became a little numbing for the public at one level, and yet with litigation, you could really focus a spotlight on key policies. Family separation is an example I would use: The litigation that we filed engendered such a public outcry that even Trump himself had to backtrack on the policy.

But lawyers are going to play a much less important role in a second Trump administration, because of the specter of a much more consistent and greater assault on civil liberties and civil rights. That’s where you really have to convert the public into a protagonist and not a spectator. And you saw elements of that in the first Trump administration. The women’s marches were largely a spontaneous outburst of energy from constituents. Certainly, the George Floyd protests that happened in the summer of 2020, in the middle of a global pandemic, were also an indication that people were willing to take to the streets on issues that really mattered to them. I’ve got to believe that we’ll have the potential of mobilizing the public in that way. Part of what we’ve got to do is get ready for that kind of energy and activism that will be beyond any of our control—the work we have to do as legal observers on protests, know-your-rights training.

Brownstein: Is that under way?

Romero: We’re beginning to map that out—what we need to do, and relationships we need to build.

Brownstein: If Trump wins, I don’t know if he does everything that he’s saying. But if he does even two-thirds of what he is saying, what do blue state governors like J. B. Pritzker, Gavin Newsom, and Kathy Hochul do? What do their attorneys general do? How much pressure could Trump put on the fundamental cohesion of the country if he follows through on this idea of using federal force in blue jurisdictions?

Romero: The real wild card is the extent to which it devolves into a confusing chaos or even violence, in which case Trump’s use of the executive powers will look more justifiable in the eyes of ordinary Americans. Remember the play he made around [sending federal forces to quell the 2020 protests in] Portland? There was an element of Trump’s actions in Portland that resonated with the American public. In some ways, the greatest danger is when Trump’s extreme policies tap into the commonsense reactions of the American people, when he truly is playing the populist role. That’s what I think is the most dangerous.

Brownstein: How different could America look after four years of another Trump presidency? And what do you think could be the most important differences from where we are now that we might face?

Romero: I think we could very much be on the brink of losing our democracy and losing certain rights and liberties that would be lost for a generation. I am not one given to hyperbole, especially in the face of real threat, but the efforts to curtail protest and demonstrations; the promise to enact gestapo-like searches and deportation forces; the enactment of federal bans on reproductive rights or gender-affirming care or diversity-and-inclusion efforts could fundamentally change the way that we think about rights and liberties in the United States.

Right now, we bemoan the idea that our zip code determines our rights and liberties. That if I am 10010 in New York—my zip code—I am de facto going to have a much greater enjoyment of rights and liberties than if I were in a zip code in Alabama or Mississippi. And the challenge with a second Trump administration is that rights and liberties may be lost even in blue states. We are already living with a status quo where rights and liberties are curtailed in red states, but it’s the metastasis into blue states and liberal and progressive jurisdictions that is perhaps the most concerning.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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hard-core True Believer Zealot


ME…that^^^is you. Smiler

Albeit likely a nice person with a good heart.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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The U.S. / Mexico border is 1,954 miles in length.

All I hear is “close the border!”. How would YOU close the border?

Build a wall? They’ll go over it, dig under it, cut through it just as they do now.

Put up a series of machine gun towers 1/4 mile apart? That’s about 8,000 of them, manned 24 hours a day in 2-man 8 hour shifts. That’s about 48,000 men, not counting infrastructure and management.

Seriously, how would YOU close the border?

I would close it with the US Military. It would be a piece of cake for them and their technology. Walls where walls would help.

I noticed Biden tried to get a border bill passed - but Trumps obedient little lapdogs shot it down on his personal behalf.

Steve’s analysis here is spot on.


One huge difference between the two, Reagan had integrity, something Trump is completely devoid of.

Trump's policies, especially his foreign policy suck, something Reagan would never support in a million years.

Reagan would never support the clown that is Trump.
 
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Reagan would never support the clown that is Trump.


100%. Hell the people that have worked with him, seen him perform as President first hand, been privy to the briefings and cabinet meetings, know the man as President, they don't even support him. Which was the point of this whole thread to begin with.

As Lincoln said, "you can fool some of the people all the time, and all the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time." Apparently Lane falls into the first category. Thankfully, most folks all into the last category.


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ME…that^^^is you. Smiler

Albeit likely a nice person with a good heart.


I could also say "Albeit likely a nice person with a good heart" about you. Roll Eyes

I do like arguing with you, zealot to zealot, because you are so focused, rigid, and incorrigible. Thus, reciprocation likewise becomes easier, not being my usual demeanor, of course.

We are like zealots on parallel planes separated by an impenetrable force field.

Think of it as an analogy or representative of the left and right divide in the nation, as it has gradually become/grown, then suddenly clear with Trumpism.

You see the left as an existential threat, perhaps to yourself, but certainly to the Nation. I see the same of the Right, especially lately and more especially with Trump.

So, there are distinctions, comparing our zealotry. It's how we view the "existential threat". I see the Right's goals and means, which you promote and support, as American Fascism. That's the reality I see. Therefore, it must be opposed with reciprocal if not greater vigor.

The way such state of division has been thwarted in the past is by compromise and the associated attitude. But the push from the Right has devolved to attitude of no compromise, zero-sum. The Left didn't dictate those terms, but can't defeat them being nice or passive.

So, you are a zealot in favor of Fascism. I am a zealot in opposition to extremism.

Note that I deem Trumpism is defined as American Fascism wannabe and extremism as fact.

Question:

Which would you choose, given a binary choice of making a political contribution in time and money, either to The Heritage Foundation specifically to promote the implementation of Project 25, or the ACLU to oppose it?


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"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

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The U.S. / Mexico border is 1,954 miles in length.

All I hear is “close the border!”. How would YOU close the border?

Build a wall? They’ll go over it, dig under it, cut through it just as they do now.

Put up a series of machine gun towers 1/4 mile apart? That’s about 8,000 of them, manned 24 hours a day in 2-man 8 hour shifts. That’s about 48,000 men, not counting infrastructure and management.

Seriously, how would YOU close the border?

I would close it with the US Military. It would be a piece of cake for them and their technology. Walls where walls would help.

I noticed Biden tried to get a border bill passed - but Trumps obedient little lapdogs shot it down on his personal behalf.

Steve’s analysis here is spot on.


One huge difference between the two, Reagan had integrity, something Trump is completely devoid of.

Trump's policies, especially his foreign policy suck, something Reagan would never support in a million years.

Reagan would never support the clown that is Trump.


It veery mind is an open constitutional question whether a president can close it with the U.S. military. Congress has through legislation deemed migration from Mexico when certain legislative requirements are met.

One thing is a constitutional certainty is Congress has the power through legislation to stop a president from doing so. One needs to read the Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer. Specifically, one must read the Jackson Concurrence. The decision does not have a true majority. Justice Jackson’s Concurrence sets out the limits of presidential power when Congress has authority to limit the use of presidential power through legislation. This concurrence created a majority in result. The holding is when Congress has legislative authority, and through an act of Congress tells a president he cannot use what would be his legitimate authority, the President cannot act against the express will of Congress.

Congress has done through law permitted migration from Mexico. Congress with the power to regulate migration. Congress has already passed multiple laws limiting the president’s mobilization of U.S. troops wo congressional approval. These are facts that the Jackson Concurrence provided test/factors would suggest such an action would be in the negative. The bright star killer would be all Congress would have to do is pass an act or joint resolution stating the President could not use the U.S. military in your suggestion or for more then X days. That would be fatal, constitutionally, to your suggestion.

The situation requires Legislation. President Reagan understood this. President Regan worked with Congress to address a similar, but different problem. President Regan upon exiting the White House implored to us the necessity of immigration. President Regan was a serious, good faith politician. He was also an adult.

President Trump and those that follow President Trump are none of those things.

I do not support a complete closing of immigration from the Mexican border. If Congress were to pass such a law; okay. That is how the system works.

Wait, a no-partisan led effort in the Senate did pass a bill that permits the President to close the border. I assume that provision had outs to permit YS Citizens back into the U.S. That assumes Mexico would allow U.S. citizens to cross back in the event the border was closed. See how this is not near as clean and easy as you think.

The answer requires legislation.

We had legislation that would allow a president to close the border and supported by the Border Patrol Union. Again, I assume when the border was closed US. citizens from Mexico would be mandated re-entry from Mexico by the law, and Mexico would allow U.S. citizens to cross or have re-entry access. Somehow, I doubt Mexico would if that switch got flipped.

Your idiocy, your favored policy, and your declared Republican Presidential Vote and Candidate killed that legislation.

You forfeit any legitimacy in complaining about the Border.
 
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I watched Reagan govern in real-time. My Dad was an ardent supporter. Reagan was an anti-establishment guy and would be appalled at the direction of the country.

Make no mistake…he would be an outspoken supporter of President Trump…just like my Dad.


You are delusional. Reagan would have abhorred trump and would never endorsed or support a person or political candidate of his ilk.

You truly have gone down the rabbit hole. The approaching election has affected your ability to reason and think. Too much FOX.


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Reagan would never support the clown that is Trump.


100%. Hell the people that have worked with him, seen him perform as President first hand, been privy to the briefings and cabinet meetings, know the man as President, they don't even support him. Which was the point of this whole thread to begin with.

As Lincoln said, "you can fool some of the people all the time, and all the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time." Apparently Lane falls into the first category. Thankfully, most folks all into the last category.


Not that I agree with him much, but if it's election day right now and your choices are limited...

I voted mostly Republican this month, not because I'm a Republican (I'm not) but because the other option was refusing to vote (which I considered). We could use better choices for this coming election. I am aghast that we are looking down both barrels of a second Biden/Trump election. Seriously, is there anyone in the front of the bus steering the thing?


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How about some political humor:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/vide...=yt&ocid=socialshare

Donald Trump Is A Fascist | Stephen Miller’s Horrific Immigration Plan | Bernie Stops A Fight

The former president is sending loud and clear signals that a second Trump term would be a fascist


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if it's election day right now and your choices are limited...



NOT Trump.....
 
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Reagan would play chess while most of you conservative-lites are still playing checkers.

He would see Trump as the right man at the right time.

Don’t have to go play golf (drink coffee, go to dinner etc etc) with him…just gotta help him save the ship from foundering.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Reagan would play chess while most of you conservative-lites are still playing checkers.

He would see Trump as the right man at the right time.

Don’t have to go play golf (drink coffee, go to dinner etc etc) with him…just gotta help him save the ship from foundering.


That's an amazing claim.

So, Trump is about saving the ship from foundering?

With 91 counts (now 85) under four criminal indictments, earned so far while saving the ship from foundering, how is it wrong to interpret you to mean "saving" the nation requires bending a breaking laws, and that's okay as a means to an end?

How far down that path is far enough?

Is he really running to save the country or himself from foundering?

Does fascism ever save a country? Has a fascist regime ever survived long past the damage they do in their means to their end?

Here's a quote worth remembering. We are talking about a political and moral tipping point, and IMO you are past it:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I have never seen so many people who claim to be honorable or moral lie for such a horrible person.


I am stunned by that very fact daily. Just goes to show you how in history the populace has actually facilitated the ascension of tyrants to power. The populace becomes so blinded by their anger and hate they are prepared to reject such basic premises as values matter, integrity matters, honesty matters, etc.


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"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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Reagan would play chess while most of you conservative-lites are still playing checkers.

He would see Trump as the right man at the right time.

Don’t have to go play golf (drink coffee, go to dinner etc etc) with him…just gotta help him save the ship from foundering.


That's an amazing claim.

So, Trump is about saving the ship from foundering?

With 91 counts (now 85) under four criminal indictments, earned so far while saving the ship from foundering, how is it wrong to interpret you to mean "saving" the nation requires bending a breaking laws, and that's okay as a means to an end?

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For many, the "odor of mendacity" is wafting not just from Georgia but from various courtrooms around the country. It is increasingly difficult to deny the selective prosecution and political influences in a variety of recent cases and opinions.


https://x.com/jonathanturley/s...354507324903788?s=46


How far down that path is far enough?

Is he really running to save the country or himself from foundering?

Does fascism ever save a country? Has a fascist regime ever survived long past the damage they do in their means to their end?

Only left wing zealots use the word fascism when talking about our government.

Here's a quote worth remembering. We are talking about a political and moral tipping point, and IMO you are past it:

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Originally posted by MJines:
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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I have never seen so many people who claim to be honorable or moral lie for such a horrible person.


I am stunned by that very fact daily. Just goes to show you how in history the populace has actually facilitated the ascension of tyrants to power. The populace becomes so blinded by their anger and hate they are prepared to reject such basic premises as values matter, integrity matters, honesty matters, etc.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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. . . just gotta help him save the ship from foundering.


You're kidding right? Bastard is busy punching holes in the hull. He has just about sunk the GOP, now he is working hard on the country.


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That^^^would be 0bama and Biden.

You have lost the plot Mike.


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...XTJ?ocid=socialshare

Donald Trump Wants His Top Republican Critic Jailed
Story by Gabe Whisnant • 3h

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...3d035286cb34bd&ei=17

'Why are these three Republican senators so upset?' Expert slams GOP’s defiance of new judicial rule
Story by Maya Boddie • 57m •


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"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

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D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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Reagan would play chess while most of you conservative-lites are still playing checkers.

He would see Trump as the right man at the right time.

Don’t have to go play golf (drink coffee, go to dinner etc etc) with him…just gotta help him save the ship from foundering.


That's an amazing claim.

So, Trump is about saving the ship from foundering?

With 91 counts (now 85) under four criminal indictments, earned so far while saving the ship from foundering, how is it wrong to interpret you to mean "saving" the nation requires bending a breaking laws, and that's okay as a means to an end?

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Jonathon Turley:
For many, the "odor of mendacity" is wafting not just from Georgia but from various courtrooms around the country. It is increasingly difficult to deny the selective prosecution and political influences in a variety of recent cases and opinions.


https://x.com/jonathanturley/s...354507324903788?s=46




Turley is smelling his own farts, because he's full of shit, and he likes it.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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We have Doctor Easter's word for it that he's an accomplished goat doctor.

We have the proof of our own eyes that as a political analyst and thinker he's an accomplished goat doctor.


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
 
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He regularly proves that it takes more than an education to be smart.


Mike
 
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We have the proof of our own eyes that as a political analyst and thinker he's an accomplished goat doctor.



Golden observation tu2
 
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He regularly proves that it takes more than an education to be smart.


Critical thinking was never acquired by osmosis.


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
 
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Who cares what Reagan would have done? He's no saint.

A figurehead his first term, senile his second.
 
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I think the reference to Reagan was just mental bootstrapping. A lot easier to support an immoral, lying seditionist if you just try to associate someone more positive with the fellow. Better yet if the person is deceased and cannot speak out against the man . . . unlike all the living members of Trump’s administration that condemn the man. Just another attempt to make the irrational seem more reasonable. You would think that constantly trying to rationalize and justify your support for the man through all manner of mental gymnastics would get tiring, but apparently not.


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It should be an interesting show watching Lane pivot from abortion is a States rights issue to a national ban is "the right thing to do":

https://thehill.com/homenews/c...tional-abortion-ban/

We shall see more of those amazing feats of mental gymnastics to come is my prediction.
 
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