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On his own shitty social media site and Elon Musk's increasingly shitty Twitter Trump posted: "He who saves his Country does not violate any Law." As some have noted that's likely the most Un-American thing any President has ever said, apparently a paraphrase of a fake quote from Napolean. Can we go straight to the exile on a remote island part now? "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | ||
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Is this real? | |||
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Multiple sites are reporting that Trump did post that statement on Twitter. Here's one: https://www.newsweek.com/donal...sons-critics-2031828 The words of a dictator. | |||
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Yes, it is. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Don’t hold your breath waiting for the MAGAts here to condemn the statement or its speaker. They like autocrats. Mike | |||
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Well I can say that most of the rest of the world is holding its breath. Watching what's going on, both in the US and in Europe right now. There is a feeling of tension. | |||
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Quick, look over there! Mike | |||
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I think we can now use the word un-American when referring to GOPers. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...14e607586e35bc&ei=23 'Quoting Napoleon': Critics rage as Trump makes 'most un-American statement ever uttered' Story by David McAfee • 4h • 1 min read https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...14e607586e35bc&ei=14 Trump Publicly Admits He Thinks He Can Break Any Law He Wants Story by Asawin Suebsaeng • 4h • 2 min read "He who saves his Country does not violate any Law," Trump posted online - not just once, but twice. ************* Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis "Stupid is as stupid does". Forest Gump "Fascist is as fascist does". Magine Enigam D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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you just can't stand it when these "unprecedented" things actually HAVE happened in the past AND by the dems? dang, son, i thought your ENTIRE industry was built on precedent -- be sure to tell your next opposing that you won't be using anything like that ... yeah, i know, your a corporate lawyer -- i get it - opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Except FSR never said anything like that. He ran against historical, but not legal precedent. As soon as the politics permitted the Constitution was amended to enshrine the two term tradition as part of our government. Oh, and despite what most history books say, FDR won the court packing debate. Folks resigned, he was able to appoint a majority that agreed w his view of the federal government which was obtained through Congress passing laws. | |||
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so, FDR used the "bully pulpit" and got his way, AND did new, novel things -- but it's okay, he's not trump got it opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Daisy . . . do something useful. Find us a quote where FDR said he was above the law given his efforts to address the crises of his time. Do that and you get a dog biscuit.  Mike | |||
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"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Comparing FDR to Trump is a good thing. They don't compare favorably. Here's some light reading on the topic: https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp IMO, the biggest difference that separates the two is empathy. Trump is a Dark Triad sadist, which by definition is devoid of empathy. Plus, FDR was immensely qualified. Trump is immensely unqualified. ************* Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis "Stupid is as stupid does". Forest Gump "Fascist is as fascist does". Magine Enigam D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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. . . still waiting on the quote Daisy. Mike | |||
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. . . having trouble finding that FDR quote? You’re the one that made the comparison. Time to deliver. Mike | |||
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Oh, and multiple past presidents sought a third term before FDR. Between 1796 and 1940, four two-term Presidents sought a third term to varying degrees. Ulysses S. Grant wanted a third term in 1880, but he lost the Republican Party nomination to James Garfield on the 36th ballot. Grover Cleveland lacked party support for a third term but was a rumored candidate. Woodrow Wilson hoped a deadlocked 1920 convention would turn to him for a third term. FDR was just the first to pull it off. Both Ulysses S. Grant and Theodore Roosevelt were attacked for trying to obtain a third non-consecutive term. | |||
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Uh, no,.... I believe that's a " but Mommy, they did it too!!".  | |||
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So Ive just learnt something. That evidently a 3rd term is Or was possible? But I take it for that to happen now would require an amendment? | |||
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The 22nd Amendment limits Presidents to two terms. Ratified in 1951. Mike | |||
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Remember the golden rule; anything Trump does or says is golden. Nothing he can say, nothing he can do, will dissuade his followers from well, following. Bill. | |||
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The Republicans passed the 22nd Amendment to keep a dead FDR from winning a 5th time. They succeeded in denying Eisenhower third term, and here came Kennedy. | |||
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Step up MAGAts, put your big boy pants on. You agree with Trump’s post? Mike | |||
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Trunk has already called for the Constitution to be suspended and for himself to be reinstated to office. This is peanuts. The man won an election because folks are afraid of not being able to enjoy a standard of living. Now, Trump is destined to illegally (unilaterally declare tariffs) destroy the economy. The Allegory of the Cave ends with the death of the one who shows everyone the shadows are not real. We are living in a cave. At least, folks who transition cannot have their identified gender on a passport. That should make us all safe and help the gender Czar, Dr. Easter sleep at night. | |||
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Except that FDR did violate established law and precedent in many places. His view was very much like what Trump said. The big difference being that a lot more folks agreed with him than with Trump now. You pointed out the SCOTUS packing... getting your own partisans into the supreme court and then changing bedrock precedent seems to be very Rooseveltian. Then there was the wholesale violations of established international law with the lend lease act. Again, most everyone agrees he did the right thing, but it was a violation of law... So Trump's behavior is neither unprecedented nor wholly out of the national character... its just that he's doing it with much less popular support than happened in the past. You can also debate his comparative morality, but that's not a question of law...
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MAGAts, be brave, you agree or disagree with the Supreme Leader? Mike | |||
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Where are all the posters who were here trumpeting (lol) the election and their Messiah? | |||
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. . . like roaches when the light comes on. Mike | |||
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Show us an example where he took power of Congress. Too bad the S. Ct., did not agree. Congress also did not agree bc he never had to endure impeachment and trial thereon. | |||
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The inference from the silence of the MAGAts is disturbingly clear. The MAGAts are absolutely fine with Trump being an autocrat leader unbound by any laws. That’s damn frightening. Mike | |||
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Trump is saying you have to break eggs to make an omelette. Considering the mess the Democrats have made of the kitchen the last few years he may need to break a lot of eggs. If you get the vapors thinking that laws may be bruised to correct the bullshit path we’re on then you probably approved of the stuff O’Bumbles, Schumer and Pelosi pushed thru. Remember that the Founding Fathers broke a law or two to get the US started. Hopefully we can get back on track without stacking quite as many bodies. | |||
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Thanks, you confirmed the inference drawn from the silence. The MAGAts are indeed perfectly content with Trump as a dictator. You might brush up on your history from say 1933 through the late 1930’s. Mike | |||
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No Rick, Trump is seeking immunity squared and no Rick just because you disagree with a "ruler" doesn't mean you support the opposition. I think it's actually very wise, very healthy and patriotic to question and hold accountable our "rulers" unless their name is Khomeini or Hussein or Putin. The Founding Fathers were guilty of treason against the Crown and of course most of us here think that was the right thing to do. That you think there's a parallel between our Revolutionary War and Trump's social media rants makes me wonder about your loyalty. Rick, is there a size of stacked bodies of your fellow Americans you'd accept and would you be willing to elaborate on which american laws you think should be broken? Thanks in advance. | |||
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First off Trump isn’t a “ruler” he’s an elected official. The “king/ruler/dictater/NAZI” slurs are just getting old and petty. The current climate has made it evident that we as a country are divided and the Left has used the courts to impede Trump’s (and the millions who voted for him) agenda to move back to a more conservative stature. Trump & Company aren’t so much “breaking laws” as defying the current interpretation of laws by leftist judges. I really don’t give a rat’s ass where you think my loyalties lie. I’ve sworn to defend the Constitution several times in my life and as far as I can see you’re just some liberal tard on social media. | |||
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. . . and he doubles down on the view that Trump should be allowed to do whatever he wants, the Constitution notwithstanding. You need a refresher on your oath. Mike | |||
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No, you need to come to grips with the fact that the Clinton, Bush, Obama, O’Bumbles era is over and the less than eloquent but quite popular orange dude is going to play Wreck It Ralph through the 50 year plan to Make America Behave. | |||
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Was lend/lease essentially a treaty? Yes. Was it approved by congress as a treaty? No. It was not. He traded access to bases for equipment that he declared unilaterally as surplus to the needs of the US. He allowed the US to pay for Canadian arms that were going to the empire. Again, he had a supermajority in both houses of congress... how was his party going to impeach him, again? Not to mention, a sizable number of the republicans were going along with his requests. As you noted, he won the court packing fight and changed the SCOTUS to his fellow travelers. If SCOTUS is in your back pocket, and they agree with you, well... Kind of like your complaints about the current SCOTUS. I do have concerns about Trump trying to be above the law. He isn't, but until the supreme court reins him in, he isn't breaking the law, is he? The law is what the current SCOTUS says it is.
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