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There's lots of innocent Russians that have nothing to do with Vlad or invading Ukraine, like you I feel no sympathy. If you hold all Russians as responsible and guilty for its invasion of Ukraine then you make the case for holding quite a bit of Latin America for its exporting drugs to the US. The point is I am dissatisfied with previous efforts at winning the war on drugs. Drug enforcement is a very expensive pursuit that seems to yield defeat. Drug prevention is also very expensive and seems to end in defeat. I like the idea of new, different and harsher tactics being used against Cartels and their staff. I doubt everything that Trump says, but I have no particular reason to doubt his military, yes the recent departure of the Command down there is perplexing. I like the Cartels being labeled FTO's. I like the Feds going after illegal immigrants. America has allowed to much for to long and "legalization " doesn't seem to be the miracle cure it was hoped to be. If anyone has a better idea I'm all ears. | |||
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I just looked around for a moment or two and found that; 100k Americans die every year from drug use. Billions of dollars are spent annually in the US for drug prevention and tens of billions of dollars are spent by the US annually in the combined drug enforcement and drug prevention effort . Tens of billions spent every year and 100k dead every year. I have no interest in continuing these failed efforts, something new and different is overdue. I propose a missile strike on every Cartel leaders home, let's see how they respond to that. | |||
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Show us where/when an innocent fisherman has lost his life. | |||
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Sometimes it's obvious, at least Trump is dealing with a problem that is destroying the US you dense little man.  When the horse has been eliminated, human life may be extended an average of five or more years. James R. Doolitle I think they've been misunderstood. Timothy Tredwell | |||
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Show us where one did not. All we have is Trump's word which is worthless. | |||
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You do realize that humans have been taking mind-altering drugs as long as humans have been on this planet? People do drugs. It's a fact and it's not going to change. The war on drugs will never be won, that is as likely as teenagers losing interest in sex. That said, we should be doing all we can to secure our border. I most definitely do not approve of using our military in violation of international law on civilians who have not been to trial. | |||
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That said. Steve, the same criteria could be applied to poachers in the African bush; provided you don't find them with an illegal kill then they are not poachers, even though you know they are. | |||
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And that is what trails are for. I do not believe in execution without a fair trail. Crazy....I know. | |||
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You've got it backwards. Innocent until proven guilty, remember? The presumption of innocence has been stripped away from these alleged drug dealers. | |||
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There seems to be some confusion about the limits of government actions, versus rights of citizens. Our government was intended to be limited. The execution of suspected criminals is out of bounds. We will regret our apathy and inaction on this issue, whether under Obama or Trump. And anyone who wants to, can show me where our preparations differ from yet another oil war... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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If we were to launch a cruise missle or drop a bunker buster bomb on say the Sinaloa cartel headquarters, how many innocents do you think we would kill? Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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If you look at the stats available for illicit drug use the US seems to top the charts in most categories. Other first world nations have problems but the US seems at the top of the list each time. I realise cannabis is legal in some states and I don't knowhow this impacts the stats. Maybe the US should be trying to ascertain why so many Americans are using or addicted to (illegal) drugs. You can do whatever you want to the supply chain but if there is a demand someone will aways step in to fill it. Why do Americans turn to drugs in such large numbers, what is it about US society which either causes or allows this? https://ourworldindata.org/illicit-drug-use https://worldpopulationreview..../drug-use-by-country | |||
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Your efforts to whitewash illegal drugs use is not acceptable. 100k dead annually is not acceptable no matter your opinion of history. | |||
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Unless they're Russian right Steve? All Russians are guilty right? | |||
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That's a whole lot of trials we should have held for the civilians we killed in France, Japan, Belgium, Vietnam, Korea, Somalia, iraq,........ | |||
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And your right Nute. I'm no expert ad you know and I repeatedly demonstrate, but I am inclined to believe that's some of the effort the billions spent annually are on. I have a residential treatment center here in town that I think puts all the effort they have into the why, how and how not to. I don't have any answer. I do believe demand drives supply. I also believe ready, easy availability greases the wheels of demand. In my youth, lite beer was very inexpensive, easy to obtain and believed to be innocuous. We all drank lots of beer, cases after case after case. Kegs of beer were normal. Today there is to much drugs available. Inexpensive, easy to obtain and believed to be innocuous hard drugs. Apparently Coke, livens you up! Yippee! The pills and the downers relax you or something. Cool. All that stuff needs to be less available for a few bucks from guys they know just a few minutes away. | |||
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There is a difference in bombing a building possible surrounded by other buildings and one of many extremely fast boats which don't fall in the same classification as a fishing vessel with 5/6 persons on board heading directly for the US coast.  | |||
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When Venezuela invades us your comparison will be correct. Criminal syndicates work here in the States, sometimes trafficking things like people for prostitution. So it is okay for a country who has it women brought here for the sex trade fine to start killing Americans? Should Cuba start killing Americans based in Miami that it deems a threat to the revolution? I mean really, this is not the stone age Scott, we are bound by international law just like everyone else. That, and if we want out citizens safe throughout the world, we should treat others justly. | |||
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No whitewashing about it, just the facts. Humans have always used substances to alter their minds. Remind me again which society didn't? None that I am aware of. Wine, women and song or some variation thereof.....been that way since the dawn of time and will until we leave this planet. | |||
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The biggest drug problem I've personally witnessed is overuse of presciption opiates. People walking and driving around always in a daze. When do we start bombing the clinics of the doctors who over-prescribe these medicines? | |||
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Yeah but he's not unless you are a brain-dead trumptard. | |||
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I think you're right and I think the pill problem gives wsy to others drugs. I would have said that the clinics and doctors here were liable to our laws and consequences so bombing isn't needed but I'm open to differing opinions. We've been telling the Cartels for a few decades now that we think they are bad, mean, irresponsible and just not very nice, but that hasn't seemed to work. Maybe bombitheir homes would shake them up a little. | |||
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Nothing you say is incorrect. But, if you think trump blowing up a few boats off the coast of Venezuela is going to make a difference, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell you. | |||
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I'm more interested in your Arizona ocean front property. Tell me its still available. | |||
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Won't solve YOUR problems. China is already supplying what your people DEMAND! EDUCATE them. Why are YOU not taking drugs? Why am I not taking drugs? Because no one is FORCING us to do so. The stupid IDIOTS who do are doing it out of their own FREE WILL! | |||
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Larry. Old Corps Semper Fi F uck Gavin Newsome | |||
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