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Terry Black’s, Deep Ellum, Dallas.

I popped in a couple days ago. My order was a sliced brisket sandwich with potato salad, cream corn, and baked beans. Oh, a fountain drink was included in my “sandwich special.” My bill was $37. The cashier proceeded to flip the screen for me to add a tip. Of course, I added tip because I don’t know what they are paid for what they do.

I miss Baker’s Ribs that was just next door, but run away because real estate prices and Terry Black’s Pecan Lodge came in with “gourmet BBQ.”

Reading ‘Texas Monthly’ earlier with their Bum Steer Awards, they referenced how thieves stole $3,000 of brisket and said those 3-4 pounds will be missed. The rest of the magazine is way too liberal, but it still arrives in my mailbox.

The meat was good, but I was put off by the price and attitude. I’ll drive further to Baker’s next time.


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I stopped into 'Smokey Moes BBQ' a couple of weeks ago to buy a bottle of sauce, + they had a help wanted sign on the window stating that they were hiring counter help for $17.00 an hour. Counter help is not a big brain occupation, besides in these days when the computer register tells you how to make change (although when a young person does it right, I always compliment them) what is there to know that justifies that wage? One thing for sure is that it has to affect the bottom line of what one pays for the product.
 
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No matter where you live in Texas, some great barbecue is waiting in your own backyard. https://www.texasmonthly.com/bbq/best-texas-bbq-2022/
 
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You got that right! Back in the early 80s I was in Round Rock at lunchtime on a job + stopped into this little dive, that didn't look like much from the outside, but that was the best I have ever eaten. The next time I went by they were gone. I have no idea why, as their product was excellent.
 
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Heck, I just learned that the Texas Monthly has covered Big Boys here in Sweetwater. Will try this real soon, maybe even before I go to Allen's for the fried chicken.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/b...ar-b-que-sweetwater/


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Brother, if you find a good source of GOOD fried chicken, stick to them like glue. My ex- mother-in-law made the best fried chicken I ever had. Her daughter turned out to be not so much, but the mother was a peach. She even came to live with me before she passed. One of the world's great People.
 
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I’ll throw out Arthur Bryant’s in KC (original location) it’s been there almost 100 years and it’s still amazing.

Another great option is BB’s Lawnside BBQ our off Troost.

Get the burnt ands and pair it with ribs jr brisket and a side of potato salad or beans and you’ll be in BBQ heaven.


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While not always available, when Roegels in Houston has beef ribs they are simply awesome.
 
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Lavaca, same thing applies to Franklin's here in Austin. Great Q but generally a 2-hour wait in line, which I will not do.
 
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Had lunch at Rudy's in Allen last week. I'm not feeling it. Everything by the pound, "no two meat plates". I asked for a 1/2 pound of brisket. He put it on the scale and asked me if I wanted another slice. I asked if it weighed 1/2 pound, he said "No", so I said give me another slice. Why did we even have that conversation?

I got a 1/2 jalapeno sausage, beans and potato salad also.

All of it was okay, but nothing special. The sauce was fine except it was in a bottle that you had to pound on the bottom to get any sauce out of it. The opening was too small.

I didn't enjoy the experience, and the BBQ was backing up on me for the next four hours.

Maybe I'm just not a BBQ fan anymore.
 
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Last time my squeeze and I ate at Rudy's in Las Cruces, we both got sick -- and the food was so mediocre it was not worth it.
I simply have to find a big, meaty beef "dinosaur rib" that has been properly BBQed. Never had one.


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Stopped at the new HEB in Allen, Texas for their BBQ. Mixed reviews really. The plusses were the price, the sliced brisket, the sauce, and the brisket bean side. The minuses were the Mac & Cheese side, the ambiance, the pulled pork, and the bread I didn't get.

Let's face it, BBQ at an HEB is like eating in a grocery store instead of a BBQ joint.

The sliced brisket was cooked to perfection with the bark having a nice peppery flavor. The lean slices were juicy and had a fatty thread that I cut off, but then saw it had a nice line of bark, so I finished it off too. Similar flavor to a burnt-end.

The atmosphere was strictly grocery store. You had to get up and get everything. Nothing on the table, no wait staff.

As soon as I saw the "pulled natural pork" was in a cup, I knew it was overdone, and it was. You didn't need teeth to eat it.

The Mac & Cheese side was straight out of a Kraft box.

The Brisket Bean side was excellent. Nice chunks of brisket in the beans gave it a great flavor. I dumped the Mac & Cheese and the Pulled Pork in the beans which made them both edible.

The sauce was very nice, thick, and just the right "whang" to it.

They forgot the bread and I didn't go back and ask. (The pickles, onions and bread are free.)

The price for a 2-meat plate that included two sides, and an ice tea was $19.74 which I considered fair.

I doubt I'll go back. I like a BBQ joint that feels like a BBQ joint.
 
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I agree.
 
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Hadn't been to Hutchins BBQ in McKinney for a year or so. It was well worth the return.

1. Their sliced brisket and smoked Jalapeno/Cheddar Sausage is as good as it gets. (You can make a meal of the Texas Twinkies.)
2. Their sauce fits my palate and I hate runny sauce. Theirs has the right consistency too.
3. Their sides are always good. I especially liked the Brisket & Jalapeno Pinto Beans. They are two different beans. I just mix them together. The cream corn is "OK". It's not the cream corn your mother used to serve you.
4. Not that crazy about their desserts (Peach Cobbler and Banana Pudding). They didn't do it for me. They also have the soft-serve ice cream, but I think their desserts need to be updated.

Their service is exceptional, extra helpful, from the time you walk in the door.

Like most BBQ places now, you don't order "Plates". You order by the pound. (Strange to me that you can't order a one or two-meat plate, but you can order a one or two meat sandwich.

I just order a 1/4 pound of two meats, throw in a Texas Twinkie with two sides, and I'm happy.

I still think Hutchins is the best BBQ place within 50 miles of McKinney
 
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Ken, was the meat at room temp or cooler by the time you got to your table? My honey and I tried some Rudy's in Las Cruces and it was definitely well below the safe temp zone. I prefer my chow hot in most cases. We both felt lousy the next morning.


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It was above room temperature.

I believe the cool weather has hurt their business. Many times I've stood outside in line waiting to get in. This time we were well inside the door, maybe 20th in line.

What reduces the temperature of the meat, and slows the whole process down are the people that get their meat, then stand in line staring at the Sides like they are anticipating buying a new house instead of just Mac & Cheese.

Hutchins does have a great selection of Sides, eleven (11) in all with six having bacon in them, but get real, and move along for Christ sake.

I am not a Rudy's fan. Rudy's in the Austin area used to be excellent, but now I stay away from any Rudy's.
 
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Last time I went to Rudy's, we had a family outing, + my dingbat ex daughter-in-law was there as well. They have the CCTV on all the time so you can see various views of the kitchen, etc. We were all sitting at the large picnic table + she was looking engrossed at the TV screen, + then says, "Oh look, that cooking show is on again."
 
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Randy, I just have to ask. Was your ex DIL blonde? rotflmo


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We winter in Clearwater Beach here in Florida. We go to a great bbq in Clearwater. This old black man starts his smoker at about 4 in the am. He smokes ribs, chicken, brisket and beans. The food is to die for. He has a little white building. Is only open for the weekend and usually runs out of food every day. The man loves his smoking of meats. Carry out only!
 
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69deer: These are the prized little pits that are the stuff of legend, right out of "Peace, Love and BBQ."
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Bill, actually, she was a dyed blonde. I gave her a hard time because she didn't even come by that stupidity naturally. Remind me to tell you the story about her + the Harry Truman 10 cent stamp sometime.
 
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BB’s Lawnside BBQ in Kansas City Mo.


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I need to pick up a rifle at Gordy & Son's tomorrow and plan on trying Truth BBQ in Houston.
 
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Well by the sign of the line, their Q must be great, but I don't have the time.
 
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We winter in Clearwater Beach here in Florida. We go to a great bbq in Clearwater. This old black man starts his smoker at about 4 in the am. He smokes ribs, chicken, brisket and beans. The food is to die for. He has a little white building. Is only open for the weekend and usually runs out of food every day. The man loves his smoking of meats. Carry out only!

I agree with you 100% Arthur really knows his 'Q. We go maybe 2x a month when we are in FL. And still haven't tried their peach cobbler; they are always out.
Come a little South to Largo next time you have a hankerin'.
In the parking lot of the Shiloh Missionary Baptist Church is a permanently parked food truck/trailer. You will smell them as you're coming down Ulmerton Rd. C&J BBQ. They open about Noon and try to go until 8-9 unless they run out earlier. It will be worth your drive, I think.
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I guess the Taylor Cafe is now closed after Vencil died in 2019. Looks like a good joint.

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I recently heard the BBQ editor for Texas Monthly being interviewed on the Texas Standard on my local NPR station, KACU (located at Abilene Christian) and he said had visited more than 2,300 BBQ joints in Texas over the years. He then mentioned that he had found himself at Louie Mueller's in Taylor again and that the brisket that day was so perfect that it caused him to rethink the whole barbecue experience. I went back and found our late friend Gato's review. He liked the brisket, too. Cool
I am surprised that they only seem to be open Wednesdays and Thursdays.

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I had to make a quick trip to Cotulla Texas last Thurs and Fri to look at a ranch I was considering buying. I could have flown with a friend who was considering partnering the deal with me, but I elected to drive so I could visit a few more Q joints. I was lucky and went to two of the top 5 in Texas Monthly's rating last year. It killed me to drive right by 3 or 4 more really highly rated places but there is such a thing as Q overdose and I'm doing this for fun, not profit.

First place I visited was:

23) Louie Mueller Barbecue, 206 W. Second, Taylor Tx. Tied in Texas Monthly's ratings with 4 others at a perfect 5.0 for second best in Texas. Mentioned in almost all Q books which cover Texas Barbecue.

I got there after a pretty long drive at 5 after 6 PM Thurs aft. Pulled into parking lot and my heart fell, sign said, 10-6, Mon-Sat. I though, "This is a real bummer, missed it by 5 minutes.", but I saw someone inside so figured maybe I could beg a brisket out the back door.....went in and found that they had extended their summer hours and were open until 7:30. That was the best news of the day, closely followed by their having Shiner Bock on draft. Even tho alone, I wanted a good sampling so I ordered a pound of brisket, a pound of ribs (they only had a 1/2 pound left so I took that), a pound of pork loin, and a ring of sausage. Nothing like a light repast.

Place is huge, used to be girl's basketball court way back when, has walls about 18-20 feet high and has 3 pits stuffed with post oak in back. They've been cooking great Q on this spot since 1959, started by current owner's Daddy. He hasn't lost the family touch.

They serve their draft beer in frozen pint jars. Worked for me. The bartender/cashier, a very friendly lady named Sonja, served me a couple and a smile.

Now to the point of this, the Q. They cook their Q with a rub of cracked or very coarsely ground peppercorns and probably a bit of salt. It comes out a helluva lot better and more complex than that would indicate. Brisket was heavily smoked and very tender. Just about as good a Brisket as you can get. I wouldn't say the best I've had, but certainly a very strong contender. You can eat different styles that you may appreciate more, but it would be hard to eat better pure Texas Brisket. Surprisingly, the ribs, cooked with the same rub were nearly as good, athough the Brisket was the star of the ball, without doubt. I don't recall any place I've visited yet that had the main two meats so close in quality. The pork loin was somewhat disappointing, possibly because of the dryness of the meat initially (meaning they can't smoke it for very long or it will really dry out) it had little real smoke flavor or penetration. Good meat, but not great Q. The sausage was good but not great. I'm not a real sausage aficionado, I make my own, and, while I still haven't perfected my processes, I am not fond of the overly fatty products sold commercially. This was good but not great. I should have tried the jalapeno style, but you can't try everything in one trip. I will be back. Only real bummer was the barbecue sauce. It was basically drippings, with little added flavor or spice. I didn't hate it, but it didn't add much or change the meat impact for the better. The quality of the sauce was not approaching the quality of the meat and was best left off for my tastes.

I guess, taking it all into account, atmosphere, history, and, of course, by far the most important item, the Q, I'm going to give it a solid A for an overall grade, my highest so far. Better sauce would have added a plus, for sure.


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They do have good BBQ at Millers. If memory serves, they're the ones that have a restored 57 Chevy Bel-Air with trunk + engine compartment gutted to accommodate a firebox under the hood + grills in the trunk with piping under the car to transfer the smoke. A great catering idea.
 
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I stopped at Jordan's BBQ in Farmersville, Texas Tuesday. I "landed" there about 1:00pm.

The owner was there visiting with two friends that were eating when I walked in. One other table was occupied for a minute or two. About twenty tables were empty. One young lady was working behind the counter. That was it. If I wanted to rob the place, 1:00pm would be a good time.

The place is very nice and clean. A real small town vibe working. You'll drive by it before you see it on the square. No sign out front, just painted on the window.

I ordered the two meat plate with brisket and ribs. The plate was $13.00 with two sides. I chose the green beans and "spicy" pinto beans. The pinto beans weren't spicy. The green beans were very good. Tasted home made but probably weren't. I got the tail end of the brisket point. It was OK, but a little too fatty for my liking. The ribs were spectacular. Very meaty, perfect bark on the outside, and perfect bite, leaving your bite mark and requiring a hint of a pull.

They had spicy and regular sauce. I chose the spicy, and it was excellent. Not overly spicy, but definitely spicy.

They gave me one piece of bread. I could have used three.

The sweet tea was good.

I have a feeling the owner is a micro-manager, or else the girl was new. She didn't know any answers to any questions, and he stayed on the phone for the most part.

The tools were plastic, but of sufficient quality not to break on you. A napkin came in the little plastic pouch with the tools. I unfolded it, and found it to be about 6" x 6" and thin enough to read a magazine through. I started looking around for a roll of paper towels on the tables, and found none. Finally I spotted one roll of paper towels back up at the counter. I would have appreciated a heads-up when I ordered so I wouldn't have to get up and walk over to get me something to wipe my mouth.

The place has been there for 30+ years. I view it as mainly for locals. I wouldn't drive out of my way to get there, and I would have to drive by Hutchins in McKinney to get to Jordan's, and that's not going to happen.

I will remember those ribs for a long while though.



I went back this weekend. It's called Wood & Time Smokehouse BBQ now, and it's moved around the corner and just off the square.

The facility looks great. A Texas honky-tonk vibe to the interior, with a full bar. There is both inside and outside tables for eating.

I really wanted to be impressed with the BBQ. Unfortunately, it was "off".

The ribs were well smoked, but a little dry.

The sliced brisket (flat) was too dry and had kinda a "whang" to it. I don't blame the rub. I think it was the wood that was used.

The sauce was strange. We asked for the spicy sauce but it tasted more like Asian sweet & sour sauce, not spicy at all. The Regular Sauce, I would call semi-spicy. It had a nice flavor.

The Jalapeno cheddar sausage was good. The sausage options stood out. They had beef, pork, venison, Jalapeno, Jalapeno-cheddar, and hot-hot-spicy.

The best side I had was the Mama's Beans. The onion rings were also good.

They have a full menu of Q, and they deserve credit for that.

I had a beer (Coors Light) with the meal, and they comped me the beer because the bar was closed for some reason.

They have a great website https://woodandtime.com/index.htm

I hope I caught them on an "off" day, because they have the make-up for an excellent BBQ destination. (If Gato were alive he would rate it a C or C- based on my experience.)

The next BBQ place on my list is Motherwells in Princeton. It's just a roadside shack with no inside seating, but I'm hearing really good things about it. https://motherwellsbbq.com/
 
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Thanks for keeping the tradition alive, Ken.
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For the best BBQ in Texas and start in Dallas.

Get on I-35 and head north a bit.

When you get to Kansas City.

Now you have the Best BBQ


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