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Are there any Bitcoin speculators among us? I'm just a casual observer myself. ______________________________ "Truth is the daughter of time." Francis Bacon | ||
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I think I'd rather buy tulips.  xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Casual observer, it makes me wonder what else I'm gonna see in my lifetime. "If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." | |||
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I'll second the other opinions. I don't think I completely understand the concept anyway. | |||
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P.T. Barnum would have loved them. My country gal's just a moonshiner's daughter, but I love her still. | |||
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I have no interest in Bitcoin. I think there is ample evidence this concept is going to implode. Don't be caught holding the Bitcoin when the music stops. I think a better name is Bitcon. | |||
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There may be a place for an alternative medium of exchange, it will have to compete with cases of Pepsi and cartons of cigarettes. Maybe with bricks of 22 RF too, come to think about it. More to the point, there are vested interests that would like nothing better than to shut off the whole concept, and others that would like to steal from an untraceable source (but then where would the thief spend it?). TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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What? Never seen one, held one; nor will I. | |||
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You can now trade your worthless Bitcoins for Dogecoins. http://sidebar.cnn.com/2014/02...-irpt/?iref=obinsite | |||
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Not exactly worthless, apparently they are trading at about $560/bitcoin as I write. Of course, I'm not in the market..... xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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To me it is like you, me and a few of our friends saying Bitcoin is worth, not $560, but $1,560. If we can find one person willing to pay that price, then it truly is worth that value. I tend to agree with Warren Buffett. It's just a matter of time. He said that the "virtual currency" is a speculative investment and may not be around in a decade. “It does not meet the test of a currency,” Buffett said today in an interview on CNBC. “I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s not around in 10 or 20 years.” I think 3 or 5 years is more like it. | |||
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Kensco: Just like the USA greenback......... | |||
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The U.S. dollar is still thought of as the strongest currency in he world. That is why foreign countries, even China, recognize its relevance, and either "peg" to it, or don't even make their own paper currency. It is the default currency for most international transactions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...use_of_the_US_dollar Here's the litmus test. Reach in your pocket and see who's currency you are carrying. Let me know when it is anything other than a USA Greenback. Then I'll start to worry. Nearly everywhere I lived around the world in the last twenty years, residents of those countries encouraged me to "hold", or "invest", in their currency. (The correct term was "gamble".) In every case, I would have lost over time, and most times in very short order. The reason there is usually an official dollar rate and a "black market" rate in many countries is because of the confidence in our dollar. The people want it because their currency is garbage. I'll stick with the U.S. dollar until something better comes along. Bitcoin ain't it. If I was outside the U.S., I might feel comfortable holding the Euro or the Pound, but it would be specific to a few countries. The Aussie dollar felt like real money (even though it was funny colored) but do I really want to hold AUDs outside Australia; not really. | |||
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I've still got a lot of Tanzanian shillings in my wallet along with US dollars. :-) | |||
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Over the years we've accumulated a small carry-on full of foreign currency. We kept saying we would go back; give it to friends; exchange it at airports; finally just gave it to my grand-daughter. Probably worth $20 total. Still remember one of my first trips overseas in 1989; to Brazil. Pulled up at a red light. A man with no legs scoots-up beside us and the driver tells me to open the car pocket and hand him the cash. The glove compartment door nearly blew off when I pushed the button in. It was stuffed with bills (Cruzeros I believe). The driver said to get it all. It was the size of four bricks; of bills. He handed it all to the beggar. Said it was worth about a nickel U.S. equivalent. In Venezuela, not too bright Gringos told me I should bring my US dollars there. The banks were paying 52% interest annually. The Bolivar was declining 64% annually at the time; what's wrong with that picture? | |||
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This was Thomas Edison's "Radical Currency" 80-90 years ago... | |||
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The basic premise of bitcoin is a great concept. I'm not at all sure bitcoin is the answer, but I believe that having all your "chickens" in one currency makes you a peasant of the regime, whatever it may be. It won't be long before cash will be a historical relic and business/commerce/EVERYTHING will have an electronic trail. A universal means of exchange outside of a government's control is a damn fine idea, making it work is a more difficult concept. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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I just don't see the government ever letting that happen. | |||
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Another opinion:
xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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the day i can walk into Walmart and buy something with it or call Cabelas and order/pay for something with bit coin is the day i will believe in it.....till then- it's just another W.C. Fields experiment. meaning there is a sucker born every minute. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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I can certainly see why people that bought Bitcoin would want to tout the relevance of Bitcoin. It probably has some collectable value even if it goes "kablooey". I mean, there is some value still in Billy Beer. Donerail won the 1913 Kentucky Derby at 91 to 1. Right off the top of my head I can't think of anything else hopeful to say. | |||
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+1 If one could buy bit coin on the open market anonymously. Then be able to exchange it any where in the world for the local currency one might have something. Untraceable currency has huge advantages. | |||
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You can do that now, but the problem is the "anonymous" source of funds to buy bitcoins. Unless you use cash, there will be an electronic trail....... buying bitcoins xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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The IRS says Bitcoin isn't a currency. It's like raising chinchillas, or Nolan Ryan's Rookie Card. http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/...txtlnkusaolp00000591 | |||
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I carry over $40,000 dollars in cash in my wallet every where I go.   I have two 20,000 dollar bills from Zimbabwe, and a few US dollars...  DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Did anyone hold since 2014?  CHA-CHING! Looks like crypto has hit the mainstream and is here to stay. The tech is undeniable (especially Ethereum & Stellar IMO). Barrier to entry to getting lower and lower. Rumors of a big exchange coming making it much easier to buy alt coins with Fiat currency. Anyone out there getting in the mix? | |||
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Eth is up 100 fold in 2017. Who cares if the technology is awesome - why buy coins up 10000 percent and massively volatile to use a foundation for any ledger activity. Yes I owned eth for a whole week or less. Made slightly less than 10k - bought 2 auction hunts at sci last year and had some change left. If I held those coins I could shoot enough game to win a few inner circle awards. Arpf is the wrong forum for crypto - members are generally too old and not tech savvy hipsters or desperate Asian housewives. I had a buddy who quit his hedge fund to get into this late 2016 - he talked me into them and i talked myself out of them. One needs to be a true believer to own stuff up 100x and a true fool to buy stuff up 100z assuming a liner price progression. The nation states will destroy these currencies by regulation taxation and theft. Mike | |||
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I think you can buy small amounts for cash without an ID. But, once you get to a certain amount, you need to proof of your id. At least that what a friend has told me. He could add to his account to about 3000 dollars. After that he could not buy anymore without proving who he is. | |||
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almost all exchanges require ID verification. once that goes through the buy/limits can be increased to pretty large amounts. if anyone is interested in a lesser known coin/token check out the tech behind Stellar and what they plan to do. https://www.stellar.org/ I was a big believer in Transferwise to get around those damn bank fees and outrageous exchange rates. Stellar plans to knock all that shit off completely with the way they will handle international remittances among other things. You can also research a new exchange called FairX. Interesting things coming online soon. Uber (no vehicles), Air Bnb (no property), Alibaba (no inventory) and now Blockchain/Bitcoin (no damn banks!!!!) | |||
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This is the exact reason I love the technology and the movement. It defies all the conventional rules of banking and investing. Making all these old guys that are fat and happy with the old outdated ways, nervous and quick to dismiss it all. Bubble, fraud, tulips, etc... So I guess I'm a fool for buying ETH at $400 and XLM at .25, but not so much for holding BTC since 2014. So I guess I'm somewhere in the middle. Whether its a bubble or not, doesn't really matter to me. If I lose some cash by holding, I'm OK with that. It's fun to be a part of something that will change the world. The technology will be implemented in almost everything we do within years. That I am sure of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDGq4aeevgY https://globalnews.ca/news/397...ockchain-canada-nrc/ http://news.abs-cbn.com/busine...chain-payment-system https://hbr.org/2017/01/the-truth-about-blockchain | |||
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AR Coin? A way to tip and send crypto currency to other users instantly and with no fees. Initial offering could offer coins at .0000001 USD per coin. Pile up enough AR Coins and you can redeem them for prizes. gumball, sticker, t-shirt, 21day full bag Tanzania safari? Who's in? | |||
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I would never invest real world money in crypto-currencies BUT there are other ways to get them. A few years ago I did a bunch of research into what it takes to mine for Bitcoin and found out that it requires a huge amount of computing power that cost a lot of money and burns lots of electricity to operate...during my research though I found some crypto-currencies that can be mined with simple laptop or desktop cpu running the mining algorithm. I researched what ones I though were/are the most stable and profitable. I have a couple old laptops in my house that we mostly use for our media server/file/print sharing so they are always on and consuming power anyways and I decided that they might as well be making me some return on their power consumption so I set them up to mine for CPU based coins. Doing it this way I'm not spending any money that I wasn't already spending before, I didn't have to invest anything but my time to learn how to do it and when I have enough of the CPU based coins I trade some of them on an exchange for Bitcoins. Doing it this way I have no risk and all reward and the cost is the same as what I was already spending to have those same laptop running anyways. I'll never get rich doing it this way because the exchange rate between cpu based and bitcoin is very low but when bitcoin spikes up like it did recently I sold most of mine and converted it to U.S. dollars that I can spend on real world stuff. If the bubble burst and it all comes crashing down tomorrow I won't feel bad about it because I don't have any real world money invested in crypto-currency. I wouldn't recommend anyone spend real dollars to buy crypto-currency but for nothing more than learning how to set-up the software on a computer and how to monitor the rates and use a reputable exchange it can be a decent way to make a few thousand a year with little effort and only the cost of running a laptop(that in my case was running anyways). | |||
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With all due respect for your opinions, your posts remind me of an old Wall St. saying, which you should consider.....You never go broke taking a profit. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Anyone interested in vapor currencies should read this... https://finance.yahoo.com/m/94...shing-and-could.html ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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I see articles all the time about hackers stealing Bitcoins. I'm not good enough on the computer to feel safe owning them. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Didn't a lot of folks get rich back in the Dot Com days? Don't limit your challenges . . . Challenge your limits | |||
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+1 Hopefully Bobby bought in size. But when something goes up 30x-60x in 3 years it becomes ones whole portfolio even a 2 percent position. Some blurbs from Goldman https://www.financemagnates.co...achs%E2%80%8E-warns/ Mike | |||
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