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Generally, I am at the receiving end of their frustrations, but sometimes someone else gets a few of their shots.

You are usually quite tolerant of us.

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Personally I find people who say what they think a lot more interesting than fawning sycophants.

As for rank, it's just pretentious. If someone needs to read their resume when introduced in order to have self-confidence, then that's fine; this is a free country.

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Personally I find people who say what they think a lot more interesting than fawning sycophants.

Ain't that the truth! I do agree.

As for rank, it's just pretentious. If someone needs to read their resume when introduced in order to have self-confidence, then that's fine; this is a free country.

1. I hope you're speaking in a general (no pun intended [Big Grin] ) sense here, because CB did NOT register here with his rank, now, did he?

2. If I'm not mistaken, he doesn't submit his work with his rank on it, either. The editors tack it on to attract readers/perpetuate an image. If he wanted to, he could, but he doesn't. Although extremely accomplished, the man is obviously humble. Nothing wrong with that.

 
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Why can't this just die out. Let Craig post like anyone else and then if he deserves it pick on him as everyone else gets picked on around here. He can hang with the best of them, I promise you.

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Why can't this just die out. Let Craig post like anyone else and then if he deserves it pick on him as everyone else gets picked on around here. He can hang with the best of them, I promise you.

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I'm sure he will. Just as soon as all of the hickeys on his butt heal so he can sit down in front of his computer. [Wink] [Big Grin]
 
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I'm sure he will. Just as soon as all of the hickeys on his butt heal so he can sit down in front of his computer.
That is what I am talking about.

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Personally I find people who say what they think a lot more interesting than fawning sycophants.

Maybe your "fawning sycophants" are saying exactly what they think?

I think its funny how those that are negative, cynical and critical are the only ones that are "saying what they think". By extension I guess you have to be critical of something to be interesting.

I also find it humorous that congratulating someone for an achievement, or a lifetime of achievement, or for service to a country, or whatever, can be turned into a negative. God forbid that anyone express thanks and/or admiration! Sycophant! Brown noser!

I suppose that everyone that congratulated Saeed for the success of his website, and expressed their thanks for our free use of it, are also butt-kissing sycophants.

Ray and Walter's legions of fans must be suck-holes too.

Of even greater incredulity to me is how being beligerent, belittling, confrontational, contrary, demeaning, derogatory, downright nasty and curmudgeonly seem to be admirable traits around here, at least amongst some of the "regulars" and not-so-regulars. Hell, that man is tellin it like it is! His opinions demand respect!

Man, what a pile of crap. This thread is more embarrassing than the whole Matchking thing, and is approaching the 45-70 Buffalo hunt debacle. But hey, thats just my humble opinion. Hopefully by expressing my disfavor I have now elevated my status to at least interesting.

Not.

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Here's a link to Boone & Crockett concerning the scandal:

http://www.boone-crockett.org/news/news_dc.asp?area=news
 
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General, this a little off topic, but I have been curious as to why your name is still prefaced with Colonel before each of your articles? Also, like many here, I really enjoy your writing.
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I was basically going to say what Canuck did...Hmmm...great Canadian minds thinking alike [Big Grin]

I find myself in the unlikely position of agreeing with Orion 1, as well...at least on his last post.

Craig Boddington has already adressed the 'rank' issue. He prefers to be called CRAIG!! Just like I prefer to be called Gatehouse, because it is my (last) name...

I have disagreed with Craig as well as about a million other gunwriters from time to time. So what?? I've also disagreed with half the individuals here. But I've alos agreed with them often as well!

Boddington has hunted and shot more than most of us ever will. That is a fact, get used to it.

I've said before and I'll say it again..I like SOME of Boddingtons writing, but I don't like it ALL. However, I respect the opinion of anyone who has BEEN THERE more than I respect the opinon of the sideline snipers...

Why don't we let Craig simply PARTICIPATE in the forums as a regular member, rather than turn it into a pissing contest about somethign that he might or might not have done??

The last time he was on a forum such as this, he mentioned that the EDITOR of the magazine might use his rank, or might not...It isn't a big concern of his. Frankly, I think most of us are the same way..I could care less if I am adressed as "CHEF" or "MR." Gatehouse or simply "Clarke."

PS- Craig...I still think the story of the desert ram was fantastic. The story seemed pretty emotional, which is somethign that I like to read- someone who has hunted alot and is still emotional about it. It is sometimes rare int he 'gunwriter' business... [Smile]
 
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Recruit to sergeant 'Yes Sir'

Sergeant to recruit 'Don't call me Sir, I'm not an officer, I work for a living!'

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Does the great Canadian minds thinking alike have anything to do with the gun registration? Just thought I'd ask. Paul.
 
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I personally think Craig is a big boy and candle whatever you guys dish out. That being said, he is a busy man and I think it would behoove us all to make this a place he likes to stick around. Being able to handle the bs and wanting to are two different things.
 
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"THUNK"....."THUNK"....."THUNK"....The sound of a dead horse being beaten.
 
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Welcome General Boddington!

If the gutter snipes have not convinced you to leave us I'd sure appreciate your assessment of our Marines and soldiers currently in the field.

Specifically how are the M-16 varients performing.

Regards

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Infantry squad leader and platoon sergeant
RVN 1966-68

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Does the great Canadian minds thinking alike have anything to do with the gun registration? Just thought I'd ask. Paul.

That was a bunch of weak, liberal minds thinking alike. Unfortunately we have just as many ass-clowns per capita as the great US of A. More unfortunately, however, we were not able to depose our ass-clowns in the last election and they are still running our country.

If Bush hadn't won by that narrow margin, you could be in the same boat or at least in for the same ride. Be thankful, everyday. Our pro-gun lobby was not as influential or affluent as yours, so I would expect a different outcome for you guys, but you wouldn't have enjoyed the ride regardless.

Now, I am curious...was your comment an insult or a tongue-in-cheek jab? Just wondering if you might be trying to be "interesting" or get some respect by being contrary and confrontational? [Wink]

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Canuck, just take it at face value and nothing else. A comment was made and I had a reply. Besides I was losing interest in Boddington's commision anyway. Like the man said himself, the NCO's are the ones that run the military anyway. I was always taught to salute the rank. The respect is earned by the man.
 
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Kudu King: thanks for the data
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Frankly, if I was Craig Boddington, I wouldn't bother responding to this. He can't win - he's not going to change your mind, and he may just alienate other readers.

Geez- give it a rest.
 
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The funny thing is that many of those who oppose this thread are keeping it alive by posting in it.
 
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If I gave Sgt. Boddington a free rifle and he sold it, I would be pissed.

500grains,

As a retired Navy officer, I really don't like to see this kind of cheap offense... call Gen. Boddington by his rank or name... everything else is at least just plain a bad and gratuite offense.

Gen. Boddington, a person who I'd like to meet in person, deserve all my respect. His work and accomplishments are really impressive.

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Craig, have enjoyed your work for years. Thanks.

Worked with 1st Marine Recon out of Phu Bai, '69-70. Best I ever saw over there. Simper Fi!

Air Cav! Above the Best! [Big Grin]
 
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500 grs., you hide behind some phony stage name, you insult and take to task a man of accomplishment who you don't know and who has done absolutely nothing to you personally, and through it all you've done nothing but make yourself look like some bitter jerk who has nothing better to do than hide behind a computer screen and strike from the side lines at people you are in all likelihood very jealous of.

How courageous you are!

As far as I'm concerned, you're just choking on some empty grudge, and you've showcased your insecurities for the whole world to see.

Congratulations!

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Allen Day, I'm with you 100 %. Isn't it funny that the statement made is proven false when the accused is confronted direrctly. Craig I would like to thank you personally for all the time and effort that you have put into your book Safari Rifles. It is one or the books that I have with the pages ragged and the binding stressed as it was when you signed it in 1996. The enscription " Dave Here's hoping your first Safari is everything you've deamed of" didn't happen until 1998 but was well worth the wait. I've enjoyed your writings over the years.
Thanks again,
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Welcome to the forums Craig. Being in Australia I don't get to read alot of your work, as the US mags take awhile to get to my town. What I have read of yours I've always enjoyed. If your ever in my neck of the woods, look me up, I'll be only to happy to have a beer with you!

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His comment about the 7mag takes nothing away from it, and he states that, he is just a 30 caliber fan. That shouldnt be a surprize with his military background. I prefer the 7 mag over the 30-06 and I was raised on the 30-06, but that doesnt mean I dont like the 30-06. It is all about your preference. No, I wouldnt buy his rifle, why, I dont have 8,000 laying around.LOL
 
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I guess the Boddington worshippers are out in force.

It's good to have heroes and role models and I am glad that some of the fellows here have found one.

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I guess the Boddington worshippers are out in force.

It's good to have heroes and role models and I am glad that some of the fellows here have found one.

500grains

Two of Will Rogers quotes come to mind:

"When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging".

"Never miss a good chance to shut up".
 
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"A leopard can't change his spots." also comes to mind.

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No he's not a hero of mine, I don't have any "heros" apart from my Father. I like his articles, full stop!! He has more experience in hunting than me,I learn from his articles and I think he write's well. And the offer of a beer if he's down my way, well I have made the same offer to a number of people on this site, some I've even offered to take out hunting if they are downunder (Jeeze I'm a nice bloke). I'll even have a beer with you mate [Wink]

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Over the years I have often thought I could be a gun writer. After all, I know quite a bit (really I do!), I have a reasonable command of the English language, and I have had some experiences which, with a little dressing up, could bear telling. When I see how fiercely writers can be attacked though, I'm think I might be lucky I lack the ambition!
Many times people who have achieved some measure of celebrity may fail to live up to our expectations. Many times we don't even give them a fair chance to try.
I will say this; Anyone who can write well enough to entertain me has my admiration and respect. Anyone who enjoys rifles and shoots them well is, in some measure, a kindred spirit. Anyone who has respect for the game he hunts is the kind of man I'd like to think I am. Anyone who fits into all these categories would have to be a real jerk to swing the balance the other way. Jealous though I might be, I like to think I wouldn't sink to the kinds of petty sniping I see on these boards from time to time.
On another note. What should I ask for a nice Lee Enfield sporter previously owned by Bill Leeper (sp4)? This features a nice walnut stock by the highly regarded English firm of Parker-Hale and has been expertly rebarreled to 30-40 Krag. Just kidding guys. This is my main meat getter and will never be sold! Regards, Bill.
 
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After all, I know quite a bit (really I do!)

[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Suuure you do Bill, suuuuure you do... [Wink]
 
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Canuck and Gatehouse:

" Great Canadian Minds Think alike"????

Thought with all that good beer upthere, you guys got to give up on having to think.

My Canadian buddies tell me " Unlike in the States, We don't think, we don't have to, We just do!"

Has that changed?

Personally I am glad that Canada is so close and keeps some of our citizens clued in on what Socialism still is. Canada should be a wake up call to this country, and hopefully if you guys can get rid of Cretian, Canada can be the great place it once was. ( Still aint bad, but like us, you have way too much government, a bad habit you learned from all the democrats in this country.) [Mad] [Confused] [Roll Eyes]
 
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Canuck and Gatehouse:

" Great Canadian Minds Think alike"????

Thought with all that good beer upthere, you guys got to give up on having to think.

My Canadian buddies tell me " Unlike in the States, We don't think, we don't have to, We just do!"

Has that changed?

Personally I am glad that Canada is so close and keeps some of our citizens clued in on what Socialism still is. Canada should be a wake up call to this country, and hopefully if you guys can get rid of Cretian, Canada can be the great place it once was. ( Still aint bad, but like us, you have way too much government, a bad habit you learned from all the democrats in this country.) [Mad] [Confused] [Roll Eyes]

I'm not sure how to take this.. this thread isn't about Canada or it's government, but if you'd like to start a thread about it, I'd be happy to talk about it.

But, to answer your questions...Yes, we just 'DO'...we have a small population, and unlike much of the USA, we don't have some sort of government official telling us where to take a dump in the woods.

Socialism is a subjective thing..Yes, we have socialized health care, etc. But the USA has a lot of government sponsered things as well...

I agree that Chretian is about the worst thing that happened to our country. I respect a man who can admit when he is wrong. I've had to do it a number of times myself...It is hard, but it's the right thing to do. Unfortunately, Chretien has never been wrong in his opinion...

And, the most important thing you touch on is, of course, true. We have excellent beer. [Smile] Although in Oregon, there is a million good microbreweries, the 'common' American beer sucha s Budweiser etc SUCKS!!! [Razz]

At least after downing 6 deliscious Canadian beer, you might get a nice beer buzz! [Big Grin]
 
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If you want to write an article give it ago. I've just had an article published in an Aussie gun mag. Took me a weekend to bash it out, and I get paid for it. If someone wants to put me down about it....good on them, at least I've given it ago. Here's a link to my article.

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Maybe your "fawning sycophants" are saying exactly what they think?

I think its funny how those that are negative, cynical and critical are the only ones that are "saying what they think".

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Thanks, Canuck.

BTW, I like Craig Boddington, too, and on top of that I'm impressed by the fact that he's a USMC general.

But, of course, everybody I know considers me a fawning sycophant! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] !! Wait 'til I tell my wife! She thinks I'm, well, never mind, but fawning sycophant it ain't.
 
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Got to agree with you guys!
That "JarHead" [said with affection] sure does have his "Groupies" doesn't he? [Roll Eyes]
It should be telling story to see what he has built to replace it. [If you catch my drift] [Wink]

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If I gave Sgt. Boddington a free rifle and he sold it, I would be pissed.

Too bad you have such an axe to grind. Wonder which parade of yours I rained on? Personally, I much prefer plain old Craig, but whatever you choose to call me, it isn't fair to a whole lot of great Americans to call me "Sgt." They're the guys who run the Corps and the Army, take the big risks and win the wars--and that's not a rank I ever held. As for free rifles, I wish there were a lot of them. There have been a couple, damn few over the years. Those are the ones I figure I'm stuck with, whether I like 'em or not. Rifles like the Miller rifle, that I paid a whole lot of cold, hard cash for when I really couldn't afford to, those I figure I can at least try to sell whenever I choose. Whomever buys that one will have a very fine rifle, hasn't shifted zero (or changed group size) in 16 years. But I'm not about to give it away, and maybe there's nobody out there who thinks it's worth what I paid for it. Me, I thought it was bargain then and I think it's a better bargain now.
Shoot straight, Craig

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Man, what a bunch of star f*ckers we have here! An individual of some celebrity shows up and people suddenly start falling all over themselves as the drool starts flowing. Looks like a pack of Pavlov's dogs found their way to this thread yesterday. Get off his d*ck, and let the man sell his rifle.

I'm sure glad I turned my computer off last night, otherwise the sound of all this name-dropping would have kept me awake all night.

 
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I've enjoyed Craig B.'s books and articles immensely over time, just as I have enjoyed the writings of a few other gun-writers. I personally think it would be great fun if Craig could be bothered to post from time to time. I'm sure he has some experience to share. So why not just welcome Craig as well as any other poster with something to contribute?

- mike
 
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I don't think he's been offended enough to completely run him off, but he is out of the country until next week so I don't expect we'll here from him for another week or two.
 
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1. This thread was originally about a Rem 700, but since the topic has now changed to Sarge's writing, I will comment that in general I find it to be vacillating vapid nothingness. Quite a while ago I quit reading his articles because I do not learn anything from them, in contrast to Seyfried and others.

2. If Sarge prefers to be called 'Craig', why does he sign his articles with his military rank? And why is he so sensitive about his rank? I find the whole idea of using a title out of its proper context to be pretentious.
 
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It may be interesting to know that noted shotgun writer Michael McIntosh used to post frequently on the Shooting Sportsman Magazine Bulletin Board Service.

He eventually got sick of all the sniping, and stopped posting. Habitues of that BBS are now the worse for his absence.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but constant sniping for no apparent reason is tedious, and churlish.

A gentleman does not air his negative opinions in public.

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