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264 for big game
17 rem for varmints
 
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I thought I had obscure taste in rifles and calibers until I read your post..!


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The majority of my rifles are chambered in rounds that are or were out of the mainstream.<br />In 1966 my oldest brother brought home, to our side of the family, our first high powered rifle, it was a Savage 340 in .225 Win. I viewed it as a backwoods boy must have upon being issued a new A3-03. I still have the very same 340 today as my varmint rifle although it gets more action as a long range tin can plinker. I handload it with 55 gr bullets and W760 powder and get between 3300 and 3400fps.<br />In the late 70's I purchased my first high power rifle, a Marlin 444. I never handloaded for it and only very recently sold it. My uncle had words with me about it at his kitchen table, and suggested I erred in my selection and should've chosen a .32 Win or .358. In retrospect, he was correct with the .358, in a model 88 at the late 70's price. If I'd have only known. My penance for such is being the custodian of a factory original (only fired at the factory) 1959 Win model 88 in .358 Win. <br />In 1991 I purchased a Browning Micro Medallion chambered in 7mm-08, intended to replace the .444 Marlin for deer hunting at altitude in CA. It's now my go to rifle, if all others go this one stays. The round has become much more accepted today than then, when it was still a novelty. I recall hearing that it would become difficult to find factory ammo for it and that the round may not become fully accepted. This was the proverbial kick in the butt that inspired me to start handloading. I load it with 140gr Rem pspcl's and 145gr Speer HC's and GS's with W760. <br />Shortly before the 7mm-08's arrival my wife decided she wanted to deer hunt with me. She didn't want the .243 caliber nor a lot of recoil. After some research and searching, before the internet boom, we found the Ruger 77RL in .257 Roberts. Some viewed the .257R as passe while others suggested rechambering it to an AI but, the more respectable folk voiced sound approval. I handload this round with both 100 and 120gr Speer HC and W760 for low recoil. The rifle is destined to be our daughters.<br />In the late 90's I discovered the .284 Win. existed. (Oh where had I been? Researching the .280 Rem.) I have a .284 Win in a Model 100, but really feel this round would be better served in a bolt action, such as the Browning A-Bolt or Winchester 70XTR with a longer throat and box magazine. I have one of each of these rifles chambered in .284 as well as a couple model 88's and 100's, most are still nib, the A-Bolt is a Micro Medallion with the 20" barrel and the Win 70 is from the 1994 limited production run of about 200, one pre and one post 64 88 and 100. Someday I will replace the Model 100 shooter with a rechambered 7mm-08 with a 22" or 24" barrel, probably with either an A-Bolt Composite Stalker or a Rem 700 SS DM. I handload the .284 Win with 154gr Hornady and with either IMR or H 4350 or W760. It's my backup to the 7-08 Micro Medallion.<br />About two or three years ago I happened into a very lightly used 1959 Winchester 70 standard grade chambered in 300 H&H. I got it for a song, along with two boxes of the original owners handloads that he made for it. It had never been scoped and most of the rounds were round nose. I've not fired them but I have been loading 180gr Rem pspcls with H4831 and H4350. It's just to nice to part with.<br />In the late 90's I was researching for an elk round and zeroed in on the 8mm Rem Mag. During 1998 I learned it was Remingtons annual chambering for their 700 Classic. (It, a classic??) It took me another year and half to find one very lightly used for a fair price. I'm plinking with it loaded with 200gr Speer HC's but have accumulated a fair supply of Barnes Originals in 225 and 250 gains for that still awaited elk hunt.<br />As old as these are, they're still in the main stream but, I have a .375 H&H for any opportunity I may get at a Brown Bear and the 30-06 for black bear. I'm on my second rifle for each of these calibers. I'm satisfied with the TGR-S but the jury is still out on the 111C, I may abandon the -06 and focus exclusively on the .300 H&H as my 30 caliber. I handload both the -06 and .375 H&H.<br />I can't explain why I have a 7mm Rem Mag. I guess it was the price on the rifle. Yep, load for it too.<br />Bill
 
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My favorite;
#1, 35-40 Maynard out of a CPA Stevens 44 1/4
#2, 38-55 Long case
#3, 356 Winchester
#4, 348 Winchester

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I favor the .300 savage in my model 99. I will put it up against any .308 ever made. Dont understand why the .300 savage got such a bad rap...perhaps its proponents are dying off and the model 99 is no longer being made. ( a real shame that.) .250-3000 Savage is another good one...killed off by the .243 I expect.<br /><br /> Another good obscure/wildcat/fading away is the .338-06. I had high hopes but only weatherby chambers it and it is now the age of the short magnum. Anyone that does have a .338-06 sings its praises but it is probably a dying round.<br /><br />My newest baby is the .264 win Mag. I confess to being a 6.5 afficionado from way back, but I love this cartridge. It is like a .270 on steroids. Great choice of bullet weights and just flat out shoots. Another casualy of the short magum craze.<br /><br />Does the 45-70 qualify in this category any more?? Looks like the marlin GG saved it from extinction.<br /><br />Anyone else got a take on this???
 
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mine are

1. 35/30-30
2. 9.3x57
3. 500 linebaugh
4. 20 vartarg
5. 7.65x53 argentine (which i have to shoot)
6. 30-40 krag


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303 savage 99 carbine, buckhorn sites. My first deer gun. can't see the site anymore, but it still occupies my safe and a place in my heart.
 
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Always wanted a savage 99 in 22 hi-power
 
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Not sure what qualifies as an unusual one.

The ones that are essentially handload only for me are .318 WR, .330 Dakota, and a .30 Luger pistol. I also have a .30 Mauser broomhandle, but was told that .30 Tokarev will work in that in a pinch. The .400 cor-bon is also odd.

Really, 75% of my hunting is done with ammo I have never seen at Wally World.
 
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.218 Bee. Have one that belonged to my grandfather. I have much nicer guns but I think he would approve that his old beater stills kills the odd coyote.
 
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I have a 40-82 and 40-65 in 1886s.
 
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I have a 40-82 and 40-65 in 1886s.


When I was growing up there was a single 40-65 round in the house.

I think Dad said a friend of his had the rifle to fit it
 
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Lots of lesser used calibers for me.

257 AI
250 Savage
6.5x55
264 win
7x57
275 Rigby AI
8x68S
338-06 AI
416 Taylor

And a whole ton of TC barrels.


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OK, I'll play. Of the rifles I shoot and hunt with REGULARLY, these are the oddballs:

--348 Win
--6.5x68R
--300 H&H (not so odd)
--7x57R

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6.5X57, used one in Zim to take a zebra

9.3X74R had a drilling with this rifle barrel, took several deer with it.


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Took my Rem Model 8 in 25 Rem. out deer hunting a little this year. Didn't shoot anything but will work on a better load and try again this year. Haven't made factory shells since the 1940's.
 
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I can't believe no one has picked the .22 Short


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Took my first 3 elk with the .348 win, and then its been 9.3X74 for bison, 458x2" for bear and cougar, 577/500 no.2 for moose and a few more bear, and lastly, the 450 BPE for Whitetail.
I have lots of the regular calibers, but they just dont seem to bring the same satisfaction as reviving some of these old obsolete cannons.
 
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50 Alaskan
50-110
44-40
22hornet
350 remington magnum
 
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I have 6mm Ackley improved that PO Ackley installed the barrel.
 
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I have a custom 98 from the 30's chambered in 240 Cobra. Done by Wallack and Homes in New York.
Pushes a 85gr bullet about 3,200 fps. Parent case is 220 Swift

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I can't believe no one has picked the .22 Short


Have a bunch of ammo that I’ve shot in that (one of dads businesses went under and he got a case of .22 short as left over inventory) but never had a firearm chambered for that specifically.

The ammo I had was never that accurate in my guns - but they were all chambered for up to .22LR, so to me, that’s not rare...
 
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I can't believe no one has picked the .22 Short


I probably have killed a dozen deer with a .22 short hollow point. It was my truck gun for vehicle injured deer when I was a GW. Deadly in the ear hole...


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33 winchester


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It's great to see how many people named the .348.

One of my grandfathers had a favorite .348, but passed when I was two years old so I never got to hunt with him using that gun. That one will always have a special place in my safe. Both my brother and I have taken pigs with his old rifle. I need to take a buck with it one of these days.


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Great topic, Kyler !

I have a 35 Ackley Magnum made for my Dad by Mr. P.O. Ackley his own self in the late 40's. Very similar cartridge to the 358 Norma Magnum. The original stock finally cracked and was replaced with a McMillan fiberglas. That rifle has to be hand loaded but it shoots very well and he used it for quite a few elk. At one point he figured he had taken over 100 elk and mostly with that one.

My other one is a 577/450 Martini Henry. Not the most accurate but a ton of fun to shoot. Made in 1887, by the way.
 
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.225 Winchester. Mine is a post-64 Mod 70 with 1:14 twist. It's best 100 yard, 5-shot group is 0.192 MOA.

It is a far more accurate rifle than I am a skilled shooter.
 
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In theory: 350 Griffin and Howe magnum or 358 STA.
 
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Fielder's choice: 1866 .44 Henry or a M-95 in .30-03.
 
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The strangest caliber I have ever owned is probably the 45 Blaser. Never killed a single beast with it. It was Obsolete the year it was launched.

I am very interested in the 10.3x68 RWS which is very similar to the 411 KDF. Though I have never owned or even see one. It has regional association with the cantons of Graubünden and Calais in Switzerland. So it will probably only ever exist there.

My personal favorite caliber is probably the 7x64, but as an American I think the 280 Remington or 280 Ackley is a better choice.

I have used the following on big game:

7x64
30-06
308
25-06
300 Winchester
7mm-08
204 Ruger (kangaroos)
6.5x47 Lapua

I have a custom rifle action sitting at home waiting on a barrel. Not sure if it will be a 30-06 or 280 Ackley. Can't decide.

I currently only own 6 bolt action rifles.

300 Win
308 Win
6mm BR
223 Rem
6.5 Creedmoor
and that unassigned action.

I also own 2 AR-15's I have yet to build and 2 AR-10's I have yet to build on.
 
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I can't believe no one has picked the .22 Short

When I was a kid you could still buy .22 Longs. It had a case the same length as a long rifle, but a 29 grain bullet like a short. Check the barrel marking of some of your older .22's and you'll find them marked ".22 Short, Long, & Long Rifle".

But no one has mentioned the 7x33 Sako. Made from an elongated 9mm Parabellum, it was designed for hunting capercallie (a large, turkey-sized bird of the northern forest) and harvesting fur seals on the ice. Shoots a 78 grain bullet at 2450 fps. I use mine for turkeys.

Although I've never had one, how about a 9.3x53R? It is a 7.62 Russian necked up to .366" for moose hunting in re-barreled Mosins -- and sometimes Model 95 Winchesters captured by the Finns from the Russians.
 
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256 Newton
 
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I can't believe no one has picked the .22 Short

When I was a kid you could still buy .22 Longs. It had a case the same length as a long rifle, but a 29 grain bullet like a short. Check the barrel marking of some of your older .22's and you'll find them marked ".22 Short, Long, & Long Rifle".

But no one has mentioned the 7x33 Sako. Made from an elongated 9mm Parabellum, it was designed for hunting capercallie (a large, turkey-sized bird of the northern forest) and harvesting fur seals on the ice. Shoots a 78 grain bullet at 2450 fps. I use mine for turkeys.

Although I've never had one, how about a 9.3x53R? It is a 7.62 Russian necked up to .366" for moose hunting in re-barreled Mosins -- and sometimes Model 95 Winchesters captured by the Finns from the Russians.


When I lived in Australia the 7x33 was a cult cartridge among Sako collectors. Even though no one in Australia has ever seen a Auerhahn or Capercallie.

A 7x33 in a little Sako or CZ 527 would be an awesome rifle just to have around.
 
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If obscure means ammo not offered in factory form, I own these factory (not custom) made rifles:

7mm-06
358 STA
470 Capstick

Not as obscure, but not easy to get ammo, I also own:

338-06
9.3x66
 
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Greg,
That 35 Ackley Magnum sounds super important for several reasons. That one should be a ton of fun for you to hunt with.
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What a great thread. The most obscure caliber I have long admired is the .40-90 Peabody What Cheer. You can marvel at this seemingly impossible creation in COTW. The other one I have always wanted to work with is the not-so-obscure 6.5 Mannlicher -- or .256 as the Brits called it. I have always admired the "less is more" philosophy. I had the remains of a lovely sporting .256 on a Steyr action that I ended up giving to Ross Seyfried at a time when I could scarcely afford to pay my bills. I wonder if he still has it.

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256/6.5 M-S is a cool caliber for sure.

Steyr Mannlicher made a modern production run of commemorative in 6.5x54 for the Steyr Classic rifle.

Never seen on in the flesh, but seen photos. Not quote an old MS but a nice rifle.

I remember fondly hearing of one mans exploits with the 358 Norma. I think his name was Nils, but I don't remember his last name. Killed everything that walks with it.
 
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Savage 24V in 6x45mm.


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Greg,
That 35 Ackley Magnum sounds super important for several reasons. That one should be a ton of fun for you to hunt with.
Kyler


Someouneeds to tell me about this cartiddyright now. Please, of course.
 
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Glad to do so:
The original 35 Ackley Magnum was developed in 1939 and was based on the Ackley short 30 Magnum No. 1 necked up to 35 caliber. Later the Ackley short 30 Magnum No. 2 was developed to make possible the rechambering of 30-06 rifles without setting back the barrel. The second 30 Magnum case was necked up to 35 caliber in 1946, and the older case discarded. It is this second version that has become standard and is listed here. In 1959 Norma introduced their 358 Magnum, which for all practical purposes is identical to the 35 Ackley Magnum. There is also an Ackley improved 35 Magnum which has a case length of 2.85 inches, based on the blown out 300 H&H Magnum.

The 35 Ackley Magnum is representative of the 35 short, belted Magnum group, so named because they are based on a shortened case that will work through the standard length action. These cartridges will all deliver ballistics equal to the 375 H&H Magnum, but don't require a special magnum length action or magazine. There are a number of very similar versions, such as the Mashburn 350 Short Magnum, or the Barnes 358 B-J Express and so on. They are all so similar that loading data for one can be safely used for the other, and there is little use in listing all of them individually. P.O. Ackley believes a 35 short magnum is the best and most efficient of the 35 magnums, regardless of who's version it may be. Cartridges in this class are all more than adequate for any North American big game and, with proper bullets, just about any African or Asiatic game as well. Their performance is parallel to the proven 375 H&H Magnum. The Norma version has the advantage of being available on a commercial basis.

Here is the loading data from Ackley's book:
Bullet Powder / (grs.) MV ME Source
200 SP IMR3031 / 64.0 3130 4365 P.O. Ackley
220 SP IMR4064 / 76.0 3040 4540 P.O. Ackley
250 SP IMR4350 / 63.0 2750 4210 P.O. Ackley
275 SP IMR4895 / 69.0 2760 4665 P.O. Ackley
300 SP IMR4350 / 73.0 2655 4710 P.O. Ackley

I do not vouch for any of these loads being safe, by the way. They're from a 1946 loading data source. USE ANY OF THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK.
 
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I think there is a 350 Hoffman on the same 375 H&H case, and Griffin and Howe had a similar cartridge.

Betram (the one who makes all the exotic brass) shoots a 350 Rigby. Met him years ago in Australia, nice guy.

I have never even seen one of those in my life.
 
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G&H 350 G&H on a magnum mauser.
 
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