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Originally posted by MickinColo:

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it will fall on deaf ears, but the velocity was 2500 fps., not 2200 fps. The ft/lbs. of energy at 500 yards is 758, not "a bit over 400". The holdover is 5', not 8'.

It’s interesting that there’s even an argument over 3 extra feet of drop after it already fell 5 feet.

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Then I guess posting the details of a 700 yard, one shot kill on a Whitetail with the same ammo and caliber would really get some panties in a knot on this forum. Funny thing is, it was done and happened but I'm sure we would all have to endure 100 posts as to why it shouldn't have worked, it's hard to escape reality. For those that feel they are in the know how, you will have to crunch the #No's for the same factory ammunition as in the OP but work it with a 20" barrel due to the fact the Whitetail was stuffed in the dirt with a 20" carbine. Same twist though.

Edited: Please note that I did not make the shot spoke of above but I sure would have liked to.

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Originally posted by SMACK!!!!:
Then I guess posting the details of a 700 yard, one shot kill on a Whitetail with the same ammo and caliber would really get some panties in a knot on this forum. Funny thing is, it was done and happened but I'm sure we would all have to endure 100 posts as to why it shouldn't have worked, it's hard to escape reality. For those that feel they are in the know how, you will have to crunch the #No's for the same factory ammunition as in the OP but work it wit a 20" barrel. Same twist though.

At 700 yards, you’re a shooter all right but no one can call you a hunter. Most game is shot a lot closer than that.

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Originally posted by MickinColo:

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Originally posted by SMACK!!!!:
Then I guess posting the details of a 700 yard, one shot kill on a Whitetail with the same ammo and caliber would really get some panties in a knot on this forum. Funny thing is, it was done and happened but I'm sure we would all have to endure 100 posts as to why it shouldn't have worked, it's hard to escape reality. For those that feel they are in the know how, you will have to crunch the #No's for the same factory ammunition as in the OP but work it wit a 20" barrel. Same twist though.

At 700 yards, you’re a shooter all right but no one can call you a hunter. Most game is shot a lot closer than that.

What's the difference? Point blank or at distance, dead's dead. I've done both plenty and the freezer doesn't seem to care either way it's taken.

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What's the difference? Point blank or at distance, dead's dead.

Very interesting! There is a conflict of vision between you and me. Although I’m not a religious man, I’m somewhat spiritual in nature. If you can’t see the difference, we can agree to disagree and move on.

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Originally posted by SMACK!!!!:

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Originally posted by MickinColo:

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Originally posted by SMACK!!!!:
Then I guess posting the details of a 700 yard, one shot kill on a Whitetail with the same ammo and caliber would really get some panties in a knot on this forum. Funny thing is, it was done and happened but I'm sure we would all have to endure 100 posts as to why it shouldn't have worked, it's hard to escape reality. For those that feel they are in the know how, you will have to crunch the #No's for the same factory ammunition as in the OP but work it wit a 20" barrel. Same twist though.

At 700 yards, you’re a shooter all right but no one can call you a hunter. Most game is shot a lot closer than that.

What's the difference? Point blank or at distance, dead's dead. I've done both plenty and the freezer doesn't seem to care either way it's taken.

Bingo!!!!!!!!!!!

But what makes you,, You?

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Originally posted by MickinColo:
But what makes you,, You?

Save it for Dr.Phil....

That’s what I thought you would say.

This thread has ran it’s coarse, time to move on. Have a good night.

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Originally posted by Scotch Bonnet:

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Originally posted by Bobby Tomek:
It would be nice if common courtesy and respect would be exercised here, but I guess that is too much to ask.

Instead of acting like adults, apparently some think behaving like a disrespectful idiot is fashionable when in fact it is nothing short of despicable.

I fully agree. Smack should have never taken that shot and posted it here.

Why should one not take a shot that results in a 1 shot kill?
He has a much right to post here as you

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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Originally posted by FN in Montana:

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Originally posted by SMACK!!!!:
Snivel, snivel. Drip, drip.... We may give the Grendel a run at Elk this weekend, stay tuned......

Should the 6.5 NOT work very well on that elk...will you still post the story?

FN in MT

Are we taking wagers?

I was simply stating...Will the elk hunt outcome be posted...no matter what occurs? I've found that these LR guys post all the victory shots...but seldom discuss the misses/screw ups.

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Originally posted by FN in Montana:

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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Originally posted by FN in Montana:

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Originally posted by SMACK!!!!:
Snivel, snivel. Drip, drip.... We may give the Grendel a run at Elk this weekend, stay tuned......

Should the 6.5 NOT work very well on that elk...will you still post the story?

FN in MT

Are we taking wagers?

I was simply stating...Will the elk hunt outcome be posted...no matter what occurs? I've found that these LR guys post all the victory shots...but seldom discuss the misses/screw ups.

How many threads of screw ups have you seen posted at any range?

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Originally posted by rcamuglia:

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STOP PUTTING YOUR LIMITATIONS ON OTHERS.

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shooting big game animals with a bit over 400 ft-lbs of energy when the holdover is near eight feet is a very slippery slope indeed.

400 ft-lbs of energy 400 ft-lbs of energy

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Originally posted by vapodog:
shooting big game animals with a bit over 400 ft-lbs of energy when the holdover is near eight feet is a very slippery slope indeed.

According to the ammo velocity is 2550 FPS

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Originally posted by SMACK!!!!:

At 2559 FPS according to Ex-bal the energy at 490 yards at sea level is 778 foot pounds

At 5000 feet the energy is 905 foot pounds

If the starting velocity is only 2200 FPS the energy at 490 yards at sea level is 556 foot pounds

At 5000 feet elevation the energy is 646 foot pounds


Proving that you two are idiots

"If the starting velocity is only 2200 FPS the energy at 490 yards at sea level is 556 foot pounds

At 5000 feet elevation the energy is 646 foot pounds"




Amazing the facts that come to those that actually apply their selves, I never did understand where 400 foot pounds of energy at 593 yards came from? Anyone? Anyone?

So now energy is important???

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I was simply stating...Will the elk hunt outcome be posted...no matter what occurs? I've found that these LR guys post all the victory shots...but seldom discuss the misses/screw ups.

It's really hard to post pics when they miss. It's even worse when they finally find the half eaten coyote gnawed carcass three days later because of a wounded animal. Those photos don't cut it on an internet forum.....

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Originally posted by rcamuglia:
So now energy is important???

Maybe you learned something about ballistics from "Google"

I guess the question is, why was the shot taken at that range? Bragging rights or another reason?

I can see attempting that shot in the right set of conditions (last day of the season, not enough daylight to stalk closer), but I see alot of people shooting deer at long range that have no business doing so.

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Bragging rights....?

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Originally posted by SMACK!!!!:
My younger brother took this Mulie this last week with a 6.5 Grendel he built him self. Shooting Precision Firearms Ammo, loaded with the Nolser 120gr Ballistic Tip's in brass head stamped 6.5-LBC. The ammo is incredibly accurate out of his 16" M4 contour Alexander Arms barrel. The 2-7X Vortex scope with the BDC matches the ballistic of this load almost perfectly. The shot was broadside at 493 yards, he had a little more wind drift than anticipated and the bullet impacted center of the lungs about 6 inches out of the pocket. The ballistic tip did not hit a rib going in and completely passed through the buck at this distance.The buck tried to keep his feet under him for 30 seconds or so before he went down.

In my view what was done above is just showoff non sporting baloney.

Please don't post immature bragging like this again.

Thank you.

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In my view what was done above is just showoff non sporting baloney.

Please don't post immature bragging like this again.

Thank you.

Folks interested in duplicating this stunt would be better off using the Grendel for p-dogs, wood chucks, and fawn-killers at ranges that push its envelope, not on valuable, managed BIG GAME ANIMALS.

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Originally posted by SMACK!!!!:
... 6.5 Grendel ... The shot was broadside at 493 yards.

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Originally posted by wino:
Taken at 16 yrds with a slight easterly breeze. Gun was my custom Win 94, rechambered to 30/30 Win Mega Mag Ack Imp

Not every shot is made under perfect conditions and within 75-150 yards. Obviously, 16 yards is very close for a .30-30 Imp and 500 yards is pretty far for the 6.5 Grendel but game doesn't place itself at convenient distances. Before deciding to take a shot you should consider the chances you will cripple game or destroy meat and act responsibly. If you do decide to shoot then you do what you can with what you have when the opportunity presents.

I watched a good friend shoot a caribou at 602 meters with a 300 Win Mag. I measured it with my range finder. I would never attempt such a shot but for him it wasn't unreasonable. He spent most of his 30 years in the military as a sniper and carried the proper rifle and equipment for the shot. Skills and firearms differ tremendously from shooter to shooter. Some guys are capable of very long shots and some guys have trouble hitting anything beyond 50 yards. I believe we are acting responsibly and ethically as long as we know our personal limitations and stay within them.

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Originally posted by rcamuglia:
So now energy is important???

Just making a point that several of you don't have the IQ, capacity and or means to crunch the smallest #No's and even come close in foot pounds for the sake of your own argument but you sure are good at running yours sucks about absolutely nothing viable. Blah, blah, blah.

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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I was simply stating...Will the elk hunt outcome be posted...no matter what occurs? I've found that these LR guys post all the victory shots...but seldom discuss the misses/screw ups.

It's really hard to post pics when they miss. It's even worse when they finally find the half eaten coyote gnawed carcass three days later because of a wounded animal. Those photos don't cut it on an internet forum.....

I did impact 4" under a groundhog at 1162 yards this spring, I would be glad to send you a picture of the bullet splash on the rock next time Im up that way if pictures of misses interest you so much.

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Originally posted by SMACK!!!!:

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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I was simply stating...Will the elk hunt outcome be posted...no matter what occurs? I've found that these LR guys post all the victory shots...but seldom discuss the misses/screw ups.

It's really hard to post pics when they miss. It's even worse when they finally find the half eaten coyote gnawed carcass three days later because of a wounded animal. Those photos don't cut it on an internet forum.....

I did impact 4" under a groundhog at 1162 yards this spring, I would be glad to send you a picture of the bullet splash on the rock next time Im up that way if pictures of misses interest you so much.

Were any of the groundhogs injured during the photographing?

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Originally posted by rcamuglia:
So now energy is important???

Just showing that your claims of 400 FPE is bogus and that you and Vapodod are clueless, but you 2 certianly look good in those funnel shaped PAPER HATS

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Originally posted by SMACK!!!!:
Some people should be appreciative that there is no minimum IQ required to participate.

I can certainly agree with that.
Hey, you get your deer yet?

Can't help but notice RC completely diverted from the original post. To start his panty waisted post. When the S&*T gets to deep what does RC do? Shifts, attempts discredit, beats his chest and runs his suck about "Pink Slips". GO GIRL. Laughing, I pay child support to the likes of you.

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