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The original poster has worn-out his welcome on other sites. He comes across as knowledgeable and has killed some large animals, but the way he expressed himself on other sites got under many people's skin.


And this is a different site and he is a new member here. he deserves the benifit of the doubt. Where is it wriiten, on any forum, that all members have to kiss each others ass? What may be abrasive to some, may come across as a strongly opinionated individual merely stating his opinion and letting others know that bsflag concerning their hunts brought up by someone that has NO actual/factual knowledge in the matter is not going to be received well.


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Posts: 31014 | Location: Olney, Texas | Registered: 27 March 2006Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by surestrike:
"And this is a perfect example of why I will never post anything to do with one of my hunts on this site. "


After posting hunting reports on this site from at least 7-8 diff African safaris, a couple of US hunts, a Canadian or 2, a Kyrgyz, an Aussie (and maybe a few other locales I'm forgetting I wrote about)
I think I am with you on this now. It is not worth it. It's ridiculous around here anymore."


I disagree. Remember that there are plenty of us who really enjoy the reports and are happy to sift through the bs.
Please keep them coming!
 
Posts: 789 | Location: Eastern Cape, South Africa | Registered: 24 December 2006Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by surestrike:
"And this is a perfect example of why I will never post anything to do with one of my hunts on this site. "


After posting hunting reports on this site from at least 7-8 diff African safaris, a couple of US hunts, a Canadian or 2, a Kyrgyz, an Aussie (and maybe a few other locales I'm forgetting I wrote about)
I think I am with you on this now. It is not worth it. It's ridiculous around here anymore."


I disagree. Remember that there are plenty of us who really enjoy the reports and are happy to sift through the bs.
Please keep them coming!


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Chris, just a suggestion but you might want to change up how you post things. You sound very arrogant. I am a 48 year old DIY and here are my big animals, I am the greatest thing.

Maybe something like this. I am new to this site and decided to post some pictures. I have listed the state where I took each animal. Thanks for viewing and let's see some of your pics as well.

Just a suggestion. Your AK post started you off on the wrong foot.
 
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I don't see many hunting reports getting ripped. And of course this ain't a report so I'm not sure the relevance.
I enjoy reports which report the hunt. The ins and outs, pluses and minuses of a hunt. They are learning experiences. I also do enjoy pictures of areas I have not seen before. A great example is the recent report on a bear hunt in New Mexico. Excellent report in my opinion and for me I really liked the area, terrain photos, since I have not been there.

This thread was not a report. It was a statement of bona fides as a "hugely sucessful western big game hunter". I killed this, this and this.

Those that want to report a hunting experience, I say do it. Look at the responses to the New Mexico hunt report.
 
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What difference does it make in the overall scheme of things, how a person introduces themself, what pictures they choose to post, or what details they care to give.

Why not exercise a small bit of self control and decision making, and if you read a post someone made that you don't like, simply move along to another topic instead of "ADVISING" them on how much better they could present themself.

It Is The INTERNET Folks, Not REAL LIFE. Also, the beauty of this site is that it has an excellent ignore user feature. If ANYONE is causing that much pain and anguish, put them on ignore, it is really simple and it does relieve unneccessary stress/tension.

These sites are supposed to be enjoyable for EVERYONE, not just the CHOSEN FEW. When folks openly admit that they will not post pictures or reports because of the negative attitudes of a few, that means folks are not having fun anymore, and that means folks are not participating on the site like they would if there was not that omni-present threat of being ridiculed or brow beaten, simply because they posted something they were proud of.

I am trying to understand why addressing the situation is such a bad thing????????


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Posts: 31014 | Location: Olney, Texas | Registered: 27 March 2006Reply With Quote
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CHC,


Your logic seems to suggest (at least to me) that a person can have enough computer literacy to type words that can express an arrogant, close minded, volatile, chip on their shoulder, braggart, "can't have anybody disagree with them", and "always get the last word in" attitude but...

...they don't have enough computer literacy to type words that express a humble, open minded, tolerant, calm, "accept other people's opinions" attitude.

Can you explain the apparent inconsistency I have identified above.

Also, with respect to your point about "not knowing someone until you looked them in the eye..."

I am curious about your views on the following probabilities:

What is the likelihood that a person who is an arrogant, hot headed, jerk on the internet is a nice guy in person?

What is the likelihood that a person who is a nice guy on the internet is an arrogant, hot headed, jerk in person?

Are the probabilities the same?


Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10183 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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Your logic seems to suggest (at least to me) that a person can have enough computer literacy to type words that can express an arrogant, close minded, volatile, chip on their shoulder, braggart, "can't have anybody disagree with them", and "always get the last word in" attitude but...

...they don't have enough computer literacy to type words that express a humble, open minded, tolerant, calm, "accept other people's opinions" attitude.

Can you explain the apparent inconsistency I have identified above.

Also, with respect to your point about "not knowing someone until you looked them in the eye..."

I am curious about your views on the following probabilities:

What is the likelihood that a person who is an arrogant, hot headed, jerk on the internet is a nice guy in person?

What is the likelihood that a person who is a ice guy on the internet is an arrogant, hot headed, jerk in person?

Are the probabilities the same?


Is it really going to matter how I answer any of that? Is it really going to matter how many examples I can list?

Any post/response a person makes on any site like this one, is open to the interpretation of the individuals that read it. A person merely expressing an opinion in the manner they are used to among their normal peer group can be mis-interpreted.

It is like when folks new to the internet and the forum world having trouble not shouting at folks, simply because they are not familiar with turning off their caps lock. Also because of regional differences, what a person is trying to get across, may not or will not come out the eway it is intended.

If they make a post/response that thru simple mis-interpretation, is mis-construed and the person reading it takes exception and fires a shot of their own across the bow, things go down hill.

The probablities in the two scenarios you listed are small at best, but it does not mean it does not occur. It also does not excuse anyone from when they see a post/response made by someone that appears to be your first example, from exercising their right to just move along instead of trying to "correct" the behavior.

Don't know about you or anyone else, but from experience, very few adults are really receptive to having another adult trying to "Correct" perceived faults, especially so on a venue such as an internet chatroom.

Cutting thru the minutiae, on this topic, mistakes were made and folks are trying to move on, but, each and everyone of us, is guilty of wanting to get in the last word, that is nothing unique to any single person it is human nature. Don't believe me see how long it is before someone responds to this response. If folks want this discussion to die, all they have to do is not say nothing and we can all move along. I bet that does not happen.


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Posts: 31014 | Location: Olney, Texas | Registered: 27 March 2006Reply With Quote
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CHC,


Your logic seems to suggest (at least to me) that a person can have enough computer literacy to type words that can express an arrogant, close minded, volatile, chip on their shoulder, braggart, "can't have anybody disagree with them", and "always get the last word in" attitude but...

...they don't have enough computer literacy to type words that express a humble, open minded, tolerant, calm, "accept other people's opinions" attitude.

Can you explain the apparent inconsistency I have identified above.

Also, with respect to your point about "not knowing someone until you looked them in the eye..."

I am curious about your views on the following probabilities:

What is the likelihood that a person who is an arrogant, hot headed, jerk on the internet is a nice guy in person?

What is the likelihood that a person who is a nice guy on the internet is an arrogant, hot headed, jerk in person?

Are the probabilities the same?


Mike,
You're wasting your time, see your #11. YOU, I and the majority of people on this forum know the answers to all of these question. We understand that truth is not relative, words do matter, one's true self does come through in keyboard language and posts/responses do constitute conversation. Beat the horse no more, no pun intended.

Perry
 
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Nice bulls! I wish he would have left it at that.

Mike is, of course, correct in his statements. I have hired many people in my time. Most of the time, unless I want the person to do a specific job for a long time, or forever, I do not always hire the most "qualified". I hire the most trainable, most reliable, most self reliant. None of these properties has to really do with qualifications, but ablilty and promotability. Sort of like hiring a guy that digs holes. If he can dig a hole, great, but if he is late, rude, lazy and won't learn how and where I want them dug, who cares. I will hire the guy that says he will learn it and how I want it done and will be there every day.

I believe he is also correct on his assessment of internet personality. I believe it is truely revealed on the keyboard where people have time to think their answers out.


Larry

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DANG DUDES!! Are you guys kidding me with this explosion of pent up crap?? I was only trying to contribute something worth looking at here in exchange for the great info I receive from the Africa forums. Really...that's all.

Shall I go ahead and post my long list of big 'ol muley photos from all over the west.......found and taken all by my lonesome, DIY, on public land? What will happen if I mention that I possess my second........yes second Arizona Strip rifle mule deer tag for this November. What kind of cretin will I be then, huh?

What about my big pronghorns one that scores 88.3" and is over 17" long?

My response to Snellstrom was in no way pricky.....it was a brief straight forward answer with just a few words.....a typical response from me.

Now the next guy.........was clearly being a sarcastic plick and got one back like he deserved. I ain't a punchin' bag for anyone on this planet.


Sorry, Chris, but from the content and tone of this post of yours, IMO you have exposed yourself as a COMPLETE POMPOUS ASSHOLE! You can take your trophies and stick them up your ASS.

I wonder how much is exaggeration and/or outright bullshit. I hope you decide to post elsewhere. AIU
 
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If folks want this discussion to die, all they have to do is not say nothing and we can all move along. I bet that does not happen.


See Mike, 3 additional posts after I made the above statement.

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I believe it is truely revealed on the keyboard where people have time to think their answers out.


Do you honestly believe, that EVERYONE, actually takes the time to think their response out?

If everyone did take time to think their response out, I might be a little more inclined to buy into the judgement of character, but from my experience many folks respond with their feelings not with logic.

As for your comments concerninmg hiring, from my experience hiring practices and standards are not controlled or standardized universally. Correct me if I am wrong, but having worked at a place that went from hiring being performed by experienced personnel, familiar with the skill required, to hiring being done by a Human Resources dept., that had no working knowledge of what type of person was needed to fill the position, spend months, maybe even a year or two, trying to fit round pegs into square holes, while a competent/knowledgeable person stood on the sidelines.

If you are doing the hiring that is one venue. If you are basically lower level/middle management needing good help, you are normally S.O.L..

Now, that is four responses let's see if this fades into the sunset?


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What the hell is happening to this place?
 
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It is a long time till hunting season starts and a longer time till the november election is a sucky economy.


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I have NEVER asked you or ANYONE else to call me/refer to me as a Professional Hunter. But Do Not tell me I cannot consider myself as one, that is Flat Assed Rude, I do not care who the hell you are.


Bless your heart Crazy, if you want to refer yourself as a "Professional Hunter" for filling corn feeders and sitting people in tower blinds then by God, you should do it! You should print out some business cards on your printer at home that have that in bold somewhere on the front.

Those guys are "Flat Assed Rude" for telling you can't be something that you want to be! My 5 year old nephew wants to be Spiderman so bad it's not even funny. You think I'm gonna tell him that he can't be Spidey when he grows up? Nope! Not gonna be me! I just tell him to follow his dreams Crazy. Maybe one day he'll really be able to shoot spider webs out of his ass and scale tall buildings and I ain't gonna be the one looking like a fool Big Grin


Drummond,

That was damn funny.


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What the hell is happening to this place?
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I cant see the pictures of the 2004 books cliffs, but you obviously bought at least one of the tags.

With someone spending that kind of coin on a tag, I would expect to see a bit larger elk.

Especially in the bragging forum.
 
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I have NEVER asked you or ANYONE else to call me/refer to me as a Professional Hunter. But Do Not tell me I cannot consider myself as one, that is Flat Assed Rude, I do not care who the hell you are.


Bless your heart Crazy, if you want to refer yourself as a "Professional Hunter" for filling corn feeders and sitting people in tower blinds then by God, you should do it! You should print out some business cards on your printer at home that have that in bold somewhere on the front.

Those guys are "Flat Assed Rude" for telling you can't be something that you want to be! My 5 year old nephew wants to be Spiderman so bad it's not even funny. You think I'm gonna tell him that he can't be Spidey when he grows up? Nope! Not gonna be me! I just tell him to follow his dreams Crazy. Maybe one day he'll really be able to shoot spider webs out of his ass and scale tall buildings and I ain't gonna be the one looking like a fool Big Grin


Drummond,

That was damn funny.


LMAO....!
 
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I am really crushed by you folks attitude, woe is me.


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Water off a ducks back crazy! Best attitude to keep. You know of your capabilites and accomplishments. No reason to beat your chest and swing from a vine.
 
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