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9.3X62 or 9.3X64??
24 October 2005, 03:43
ramrod3409.3X62 or 9.3X64??
As I bounce around the idea of a 9.3. Which do you guys suggest.
I have a MKX standard action, a nice stock blank waiting on a barrel. Would go with a Lothar Walther barrel. So you 9.3 experts. Which would you use and why.
While I don't really need it I have that empty 9.3 gap in the safe.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
24 October 2005, 04:47
boilerroomDo you mean a lite weight barrel (LW)?
I know the barrel makers I looked at here only offer it in Med and up.
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24 October 2005, 04:57
ramrod340Sorry I got lazy. Make that a Lothar Walther barrel.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
24 October 2005, 05:04
schromfLothar Walther = LW
You need about .25 inch plus your major bore diameter, which puts your barrel at muzzel @ .616 ". That works out to a #3 Douglas contour.
Your choice of barrel is your dollars, so I ultimaletly ends up on who you like. I personally am going to use LW on my 9.3 as I have spoke many times with Woodie, he knows his stuff, and all the feedback I have is positive.
24 October 2005, 05:11
boilerroomI see.

Great choice if you can afford it.
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24 October 2005, 05:13
z1rLW, Lothar Walther.
The 9.3x62 is practically a screw on the barrel & go project. The 9.3x64 requires at a minimum, that you open up the boltface & extractor.
Aut vincere aut mori
24 October 2005, 05:16
kutenayI prefer the 9.3x62 as the brass is easier to get in B.C. and the recoil is considerably less with 286 PTs. My current 9.3x62 is a gorgeous pre-war sporter with all the goodies and, although nearly 80 yrs. old, it shoots sub m.o.a.
I am going to get Bill to build me a light 9.3x62 on a Brno 21h action I have and a Bevan King barrel is my choice. Bevan tells me that he usually turns to Douglas contours, so, a No. 3 will do the trick and give me a light packing rifle for an ornery, old fart like me....suits the squarehead part of my Canuckian personality, too!
24 October 2005, 06:14
BFaucettI'd go with the 9.3x62. As zlr said, it's "practically a screw on the barrel & go project". If you need 9.3x64 ballistics, then simply use the .375 H&H. Much easier to get brass (and a rifle) for the .375 H&H than the 9.3x64 here in North America. And the .375 H&H is legal for dangerous game in all African safari countries that I'm aware of; the 9.3x64 may not be. (The 9.3x62 and 9.3x64 are DG legal in a few but not all, to the best of my knowledge.) Components for the 9.3x62 are no problem on this side of the pond, especially cases. I own both a 9.3x62 and a .375 H&H. I like them both. I like to think of the 9.3x62 as a ".36 Whelen" to put it into perspective for a North American hunter. I've used my 9.3x62 and .375 H&H on plains game in South Africa (but I've never hunted African dangerous game). They both worked great... no big surprise there.
My two cents...
-Bob F.
24 October 2005, 06:56
ramrod340Thanks I knew I could count on you guys. In a senior moment I had completely forgot the 9.3X64 would require alteration of the bolt.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
24 October 2005, 13:25
GanyanaFor me, Part of the beasuty of the 9,3x62 is that I can have a general purpose African Rifle that is pleasant to shoot and weighs only 7½lbs loaded. If you really like short barrels though then you need the extra case capacity of the 64' to achive safe performance. (I have a 23" and 24" barrels on my 9,3's)
24 October 2005, 16:28
mouse939,3x62

...me and some PH (EU) use 19,7" = 50 cm barrel on it (for tracking in stiff bush after bear or boar)...not sure about the energy numbers tho it gets job done
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Originally posted by BFaucett:
I'd go with the 9.3x62. As zlr said, it's "practically a screw on the barrel & go project". If you need 9.3x64 ballistics, then simply use the .375 H&H. Much easier to get brass (and a rifle) for the .375 H&H than the 9.3x64 here in North America. And the .375 H&H is legal for dangerous game in all African safari countries that I'm aware of; the 9.3x64 may not be. (The 9.3x62 and 9.3x64 are DG legal in a few but not all, to the best of my knowledge.) Components for the 9.3x62 are no problem on this side of the pond, especially cases. I own both a 9.3x62 and a .375 H&H. I like them both. I like to think of the 9.3x62 as a ".36 Whelen" to put it into perspective for a North American hunter. I've used my 9.3x62 and .375 H&H on plains game in South Africa (but I've never hunted African dangerous game). They both worked great... no big surprise there.
My two cents...
-Bob F.
I agree totally with the above.......you want power than the 9.3x62 just get the H&H for convenience.
24 October 2005, 21:14
416 taylorI like them both,I 've taken moose with the 64 and it was spectacular,I have never had trouble with getting 64 brass.Thar 286 nosler at 2600fps is devastating.
24 October 2005, 22:37
AtkinsonBoth are great calibers, the 9.3x64 is more powerful but not by a lot....I had a couple of 9.3x64 and they are comparable to a .375 H&H..
Hard to say but both are easy conversions on standard actions..you may or may not have to open the bolt face for a 9.3x64, sometimes I have and other times I have not, its touch and go on that, but its such a small amount that it makes little difference...
I guess if pinned down, I like the 9.3x62, its such a nice caliber in a long barrel 26" gun...and it handles even the 320 gr. Woodleighs with a max load in that barrel length..
If I wanted a short barrel handy gun ( 20 to 22 inches) then I would opt for the 9.3x64 to keep the velocity up there where it needs to be for a 9.3 and heavy bullets...
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
24 October 2005, 23:52
Fritz the Kraut@ Ray it's not necessary to take the 9,3x64 for short barrels. The 9,3x62 is doing a good job in a 20 inch barrel. Lots of European firearms manufacturers provide rifles with 20 inch barrels in 9,3x62 for a special kind of hunting (Drückjagd). The 9,3x62 is very popular today in Germany with short barrels. Amazingly the lost of velocity in a 20 inch barrel with the 9,3x62 is not so much one may expect!
25 October 2005, 05:13
oldunquote:
Originally Lots of European firearms manufacturers provide rifles with 20 inch barrels in 9,3x62 for a special kind of hunting (Drückjagd).
Fritz,
I see the above is from your first post, wewlcome to AR. What does Druckjagd mean?
Thanks.
25 October 2005, 09:55
<JOHAN>Oldun,
Drückjagd means driving of game towards guns; shooting-party. In Spain similar type of hunt is called monteria. In France it's called battue and in Sweden it's called drevjakt or klappjakt

Cheers
/JOHAN
25 October 2005, 10:27
boilerroomYou'd never guess what they call it here.

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26 October 2005, 10:18
boilerroomRCBS has just moved their 9.3X62 dies from group D to group A. 1/2 the $$

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26 October 2005, 11:21
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26 October 2005, 13:42
MartinPottsquote:
Originally posted by ramrod340:
As I bounce around the idea of a 9.3. Which do you guys suggest.
I have a MKX standard action, a nice stock blank waiting on a barrel. Would go with a Lothar Walther barrel. So you 9.3 experts. Which would you use and why.
While I don't really need it I have that empty 9.3 gap in the safe.
9.3x64 BrennekeDont let ray kid you the 9.3x64 rules..
Unless you want to have a 9.3x416... now that really rules ..and with the 9.3x416 its worth having boattails custom made .
Martin