The 54 grain load looks the goods if it is repeatable. For your target game you only have to be able to break a 6" plate at 200 yards.

I'd start practising .... field shooting positions at 50,100,150,200 and 250 yards and learn the fall of shot.

Can't wait!

Wow, all those stats, pages and pages of them and sniping back and fourth, my how the old wore out 06 can bring hunters to their milk!! page after paged or what has been known since at least 1935 my first year on earth...

And all this time the 06 has set records at some of the most impressive shoots in the world, hundreds if not thousands or little african boys shot their first buffalo, Lion and elephant with thos 220 gr. solids and softs, cowboys packed them in a saddle scabbard and shot elk, moose, deer, bear,; every WW1 and 2 and some from Korea soldier came home and got one from the NRA for $7.50, used it to shoot everything with, and Teddy shot most everything in Africa with it..

Makes one think that you can't stretch the 30-06, you can only stretch the shooter skill and thats not uncommon..

My advise: Never attack the o6, your in for a beating... It's an American icon, it earned its stripes, its a hero..Its apple pie and motherhood, Texans rate it with the Alamo, Kentucky with Daniel Boone, and btw it still works real good. I got one, always had one, never be without one..

Very good Ray!

Aaron

Oh, Hornady has released a 225 grain bullet in 30 caliber and a stiff charge of H4831SC....

thinking about throating out an 06 barrel to 280AI specs.....with the above bullet and powder...

got one now that is overly long throated as a candidate...

just something to play with...

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Originally posted by Ghubert:

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Originally posted by woods:

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Originally posted by Ghubert:
My only reservation is that I'm seeing large ES and SD on the Chrono and also seeing flyers on the target. With tweaking of OAL and charge this may or may not get better but for now I can kill stuff.

Any comments, criticisms and instances of outright abuse are welcome as always!

Thanks again for all your help also chaps.

Best,

Amir

Hey Amir, glad to see you are getting there. One thing for sure is that I think you will be pleased with the performance of the 200 gr Accubond on game.

Re your ES and SD; I have found that seating depth has a profound effect on reaching a low value there



For this load the progression to a low ES of 8 and a SD of 4 at .060" off and back up again is almost perfectly illustrated.

The latest experiments at the weekend were very successful Woods, thanks again for your help on this.

I loaded up a batch of Accubonds varying the OAL from 10 thou off the lands to 100 thou and shot them over the chronograph this weekend.

The results mirrored yours in that the overall velocity went down as the OAL decreased and I found a sweet spot at 75 thou off the lands that resulted in half inch groups and an ES of 6fps...

The velocity has gone down to almost exactly 2600 fps.

I wonder if the pressure is commensurately lower too?

This thread continues to impress me. I am now thinking about how I can load a lighter bullet for coyotes. I hope this keeps up.

Cheers,

JDG

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Originally posted by Doublegun:
This thread continues to impress me. I am now thinking about how I can load a lighter bullet for coyotes. I hope this keeps up.

Cheers,

JDG

I have some 125 grain Sierra soft points and considered this but the problem seems to be that with a bullet with such a low BC, the extra 100-150fps velocity would make bugger all difference at ranges past 200-300 yards.

I have a 308 that has a very accurate load with the 125 grain bullets at 3170fps ( It has a longer barrel than my 06 and the 308 is more efficient with lighter bullets anyway than the 06 ) and so saw no point in it.

If you do try it I would suggest a 125 grain Ballistic Tip with a BC of ~.38.

In case you do want to try it here is a QL run of the data in a 24", QL standard case volume 30.06, if you give me your case capacity, barrel length and preferred OAL I can do a more exact run for you:

 Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.
Bullet             : .308, 125, Sierra SP 2120
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.150 inch or 80.01 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-17

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.806% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-08.1   92    57.00   3033    2554   44049   9158     95.1    1.127
-07.3   93    57.50   3061    2600   45241   9241     95.5    1.113
-06.5   94    58.00   3088    2647   46465   9321     95.9    1.100
-05.6   95    58.50   3115    2694   47727   9399     96.3    1.087
-04.8   95    59.00   3143    2741   49024   9474     96.6    1.073
-04.0   96    59.50   3170    2789   50361   9547     97.0    1.061
-03.2   97    60.00   3197    2837   51720   9616     97.3    1.048  ! Near Maximum !
-02.4   98    60.50   3224    2886   53150   9683     97.6    1.035  ! Near Maximum !
-01.6   99    61.00   3252    2935   54609   9748     97.9    1.023  ! Near Maximum !
-00.8   99    61.50   3279    2984   56111   9809     98.2    1.010  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    62.00   3306    3034   57658   9867     98.4    0.998  ! Near Maximum !
+00.8  101    62.50   3333    3084   59253   9922     98.6    0.987  ! Near Maximum !
+01.6  102    63.00   3360    3134   60897   9975     98.9    0.975  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.4  103    63.50   3387    3185   62591  10024     99.1    0.963  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.2  104    64.00   3414    3236   64338  10069     99.2    0.952  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104    64.50   3441    3287   66142  10112     99.4    0.940  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    62.00   3465    3332   68700   9625    100.0    0.927  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    62.00   3090    2651   47660   9520     92.0    1.091
 

Keep us posted!

Best,

Amir

180 grain Tipped TSX BT

OK, as extension to this thread:
What is the biggest you've taken with a .30-06?

Boddington mentions having shot giraffe with the .30-06 (Safari RIfles II). I understood, although he didn't specifically say so I think, that they took body shots on giraffe using Federal Trophy Tipped bullets.
Would anyone really subscribe to this? Head/neck shot, for sure; body shots with solids maybe; but body shots with expanding bullets?

- Lars/Finland