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I was thinking that the 338 RUM shooting the 225
Accubond would be enough or maybe not for Zebra.
What do you think?
 
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I was thinking that the 338 RUM shooting the 225
Accubond would be enough or maybe not for Zebra.
What do you think?


I have shot two zebras. One with a 7mm Rem Mag and a 150 grain Nosler BT and one with a 225 grain Hornady .338 Win Mag. The zebra hit with the 7mm died quicker than the .338 hit animal.

I took both my zebra skins and just tanned them - no liner, no nothing. One was hung on the wall in my MN house (it is now in storage awaiting construction of our new house in AZ). the other skin is used as a bed covering on a spare bed in my home office here in AZ. Once we get the new house built, the zebra rugs go on the floor in the trophy room.


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I have some of those BT bullets for my 7mm Rem also, I think I'll take my 300 RUM shooting 200gr Partition bullets and my 7mm Rem Mag shooting 150 B.T. bullets.

Thanks for the info.
 
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I only saw one Zebra shot and it was with a 7mm Remington 160 Speer Grand Slam and it did the job. No thru and thru penetration. Like everyone else, I think they are pretty tough animals from talking with the PH's. I'd at least go with a heavier, premium bullet. The trackers are fantastic but remember if there is one drop of blood and it can't be found or the hyenas get to it, you bought it! Pick you shot and remember bullet placement, bullet placement, bullet placement. Good luck.


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I have shot about a dozen zebras.
I would want a little tougher bullet that an Accubond.

I like a bullet designed that even of it hits heavy bone will have some shank left to penetrate.

Nosler Partitions, Woodleighs and Trophybonded Bearclaws etc.

Just a little bit of extra insurance.


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Bill/Oregon,

A couple of years ago I took a CZ 550 American in 9,3x62 to RSA. Rifle is fitted with a 2.5-8 Leupy on CZ rings. Load was 286 gr Partitions with 57.0 gr RL-15 on Norma cases and WLR primers. Makes 2425 fps in my rifle and shoots about 1 moa.

The Zebra went straight down on its knees at the shot. I did a followup between the shoulders to be sure. Both were pass throughs.

The 9,3x62 just works ... way better than one might expect. The Warthog, Impala, Blue Wildebeast, and Zebra were all one shot drops. The Kudu had not read "The Perfect Shot," and took more than one. No projectiles were recovered.


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My CZ 550 in 9.3X62 will be in this week, and I just got a lovely box of Lapua brass for it from Buzz at Huntington's. I also hope to use Nosler Partitions, as Bob Nosler got into the business just 10 minutes from where I live, and the bullets are still an Oregon product. So that's what I expect to use on zebra.
But my younger brother would sure like to use the nice old Savage 99 in .300 Savage that our uncle gave him. Our uncle celebrated his 90th birthday yesterday, and when I told him his old elk rifle will be going to Africa, he lit up with a smile that made him look like he was 10 years old again.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
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I have shot about a dozen zebras.
I would want a little tougher bullet that an Accubond.

I lioke a bullet designed that even of it hits heavy bone will have some shank left to penetrate.

Nosler Partitions, Woodleighs and Trophybonded Bearclaws etc.

Just a little bit of extra insurance.[/QUOTE

JRO:

I only pointed out what worked for me, and I would definitely listen to what NE450 says here. Personally, I doubt I will go to Africa again without premium bullets. I have only lost two animals in my life, but both were in Africa. Ironically, they were both with that 225 grain Hornady .338 bullet. I have never lost an animal with a BT, and I have shot a ton of critters with it. But what works is not the same as what is best.

Just my opinion, for what it is worth.


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I've decided that I'm going to use my 338 RUM shooting 225gr Partitions for Zebra. Big Hole alot of blood
 
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Easy, just use "BULL ELK Bullet". One example would be 350 grainer out of .458Lott spout. Assuming you can hit in the right spot, it should be good out to 300m.
 
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Here's a pic. of a single striped Australian zebra taken with a 140gn Accubond out of a 7mm WSM . Have shot a few and the 7mm WSM and .308 do very well if bullet placement is good . The big boomers don't seem to do much better by all accounts . Tough buggers these horses .
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That the answer Bullet placement and tought enough to get there.
 
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Wow! Monostripe Australian Zebras!! Looks just about dead on like my brother's team of mules.

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I watched a show this evening in which a fellow took one with one shot at over 300 yards. He used a .300 WSM and the new Winchester XP3 (or something like that) 180 grain bullet

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Wow! Monostripe Australian Zebras!! Looks just about dead on like my brother's team of mules.

Rich

Purely coincidence I assure you . sofa


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
jro
I have shot about a dozen zebras.
I would want a little tougher bullet that an Accubond.

I lioke a bullet designed that even of it hits heavy bone will have some shank left to penetrate.

Nosler Partitions, Woodleighs and Trophybonded Bearclaws etc.

Just a little bit of extra insurance.[/QUOTE

JRO:

I only pointed out what worked for me, and I would definitely listen to what NE450 says here. Personally, I doubt I will go to Africa again without premium bullets. I have only lost two animals in my life, but both were in Africa. Ironically, they were both with that 225 grain Hornady .338 bullet. I have never lost an animal with a BT, and I have shot a ton of critters with it. But what works is not the same as what is best.

Just my opinion, for what it is worth.


The Hornady 225 would be good in NA for deer and many shots on elk, but test in my 338-06 showed separation at the 200 yds backstop, so I chose the partition. Large game can sometimes require more penetration than what you might get with a conventional bullet, re: of caliber, depends if you hit heavy bone I guess.
 
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I shot my Zebra stallion at 40 metres with a .308W 165 Woodleigh PPSN, side on through both lungs. Ran another 40 metres and dropped dead. A 165 Partition would have done the same thing.
 
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Been thinking more about the zebra proposition.

Think a field artillery piece is what is needed for certainty on a zebra.

But then he might still get up and run off.

What gun is currently mounted on the American tanks ? Maybe with its fancy aiming system and rapid fire capability zebra would actually be at a disadvantage. But you might need that tank's jet engine and fancy suspension to run the zebra down when you ran low on ammo.

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Would a .30-caliber 165-grain Partition at 2,600 fps at the muzzle be adequate for zebra?


Of course not! men need bigger rifles, cause only girls can do it with 7mm-08 150gn 2700mv. Big Grin
...and Ive seen wild horses cleanly taken at 450yd+ with 165gn coppers approaching 3100mv.
... but dont take any notice of that cause African game is tougher than all the rest... rotflmao
 
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I used a 300 grain TSX at 300 yards from my 375 H&H. It ran in a 20' circle, one and a half times and fell over dead. (I just wanted to post another picture of my big, old zebra)



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I just wanted to post another picture of my big, old zebra)

well thanks for the photo....but in all simcerity it's your avatar I like the best! clap


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I shot my Zerba with my 300 Ultra Mag bullet was
a 200gr nosler Partition going 3020 FPS at 285yds.
 
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I got my Hartman's in Namibia using .338 WM with 250 grain Nosler Partition. The one shot kill ran about 75 yards and went down. The zebra is now a great looking rug on my man cave floor but I am very careful with the direct foot traffic.
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Well if we are just showing zebras here is mine with a 200 grains NP bullet in .323 caliber Cool



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Bill/Oregon, tell him to take the 99. It will work. Handload a prem. bullet in it, or just have him take extra care on the shot. afterall, it's still shot placement. We took 4 zebras last summer on our RSA hunt, they were shot with a .45-70, .30-06, .338 WM, and a Marlin .308 MX with leverevolution factory ammo[160 grs.]. Put it in the right place, they will go down.

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Why is it everyone wants to use the smallest bullet or caliber or marginal

caliber to take an Animal ?. I have never understood the mentality behind that reasoning .

The simplest way to explain what works and what doesn't is ASK Your PH or guide what they believe

is the best medicine . Size of animals and yardage vary a whole bunch .

I'm no African expert been there 3 times in my life shot several different species .

I have ALWAYS asked or have been told what to bring and what NOT to bring . Yes a 7 mm Rem Mag will

take a zebra down but a .338 WM 225 partition will do it better and cleaner .

Their Muscular semi Nervous and Energetic and range in sizes depending on areas hunted in .

The biggest factor I have personally encountered is the variation in actual yardage range shot .

Plains animals are open country, so at times 150-250 yd shots don't present themselves other times

65 yd. shots may be the norm . Put a smile on your mug " Take enough Gun too the Hunt " !.
 
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man, I was thinking my next trip to Zim I would haul along my Ruger M77 Tang-safety sporter in 7x57 Mauser for the Zebra rug candidate. Looks like I'll need at least my 9,3x62 or my 375H&H to get the job done.

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Okay, since you all are into showing off - here's mine. Did it with a .375 H&H 285-grain Speer Grand Slam.



Probably could have done it with a lesser caliber but what the hell - might as well - if you got a .375.

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I culled them with 5.56NATO at times on a friend's farm. Depends on how close you are and if it's windy. Optics etc. You could kill one with a .22LR on the right day with a good shot close in though I wouldn't advise it being attempted.

If you want to be absolutely sure, you could go the other way and use a .450 Ackley or .577 T-Rex.

The tricky thing is getting close to them, not the making them die part, if you're a decent shot. I have a friend that bowhunts them.

If I were planning on intermediate to longer range shots I'd go .270 or bigger.

This is spoken by a fellow that has shot a duiker at 75 yards with a .375 because it was the rifle he had in his possession at the time the shot chance appeared. There's overkill, no kill, and trophy. Where and how you're going to hunt zebra makes more difference than pecker waving about what cartridge has more "taylor knock down".

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.... Where and how you're going to hunt zebra makes more difference than pecker waving about what cartridge has more "taylor knock down".
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thumb .. Yep, I have no problems with someone using an Bow, or 6.5x55-7x57, 300sav., as long as one is prepared to hunt within its capable range.
 
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The 338 Federal loaded with a 210 grain TSX will do a number on a Zebra




Notice the amount of damage to the heart



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OK, as long as we're showing off.....Here is pics of the 4 we took this summer.



Mine, with .45-70 GG. 300 gr. nosler partition.



My son, with .30-06 handi rifle. 180 gr. nosler partition.



My buddy, with Marlin XLR .308 MX. 160 gr. LE factory ammo.



His son, with Ruger 77, .338 WM. 250 gr. accubonds, as I remember.

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I've only shot 3, all with a 375HH. All were 1 shot kills but I was impressed at how far they went when hit perfectly. 2 with 260 gr. nosler partitions and 1 with a 270 gr. tsx. All pass throughs.
 
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I've only shot 3, all with a 375HH. All were 1 shot kills but I was impressed at how far they went when hit perfectly. 2 with 260 gr. nosler partitions and 1 with a 270 gr. tsx. All pass throughs.


Hey Boatammo...

I'm here in Oregon by way of MN also!

on the otherhand.. did anyone else notice this thread was a revival of a post started 3 years ago???


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My .358 STA with a 270 grain North Fork going 2850 fps did the job nicely on my Zebra in the Selous. I did gain a good deal of respect for the Stipped one, he was the wariest and toughest animal I have ever hunted. Good shooting.


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I took this zebra in Namibia with a 30-06 and a 180gr Barnes TSX. The shot was at about 130 yards and went clean through. The zebra ran about 100 yards before he dropped. I bet if you kept your shots within 200 yards, your 300 Savage and 165gr partition would perform in similar fashion if you place your shot well.

 
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My zebra fell to a .429 320 gr LBT WFN started at 1375 fps from a 10 inch 44 magnum Contender. I expect a .308 165 Partition @ 2600 will do nicely if you sock your stallion in the heart/lung area.
 
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Would a .30-caliber 165-grain Partition at 2,600 fps at the muzzle be adequate for zebra?


It will kill the animal but most likely will not pass through.

Recommended broadside shot.

Partition will open up greatly if hitting the front shoulder bone.

TSX would be a better choice to insure shoulder bone pass-through if needed.
 
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ConfusedNice photos, but why would anyone want to kill a stripped horse ? Slow day? homerroger


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ConfusedNice photos, but why would anyone want to kill a stripped horse ? Slow day? homerroger
For the same reason one would like to kill a Halibut.....it's for the trophy status.....in the case of a zebra the hide and photos.....in the case of the halibut the meat and photos.....pretty much the same thing!


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