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Originally posted by vapodog:

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Originally posted by bartsche:
Nice photos, but why would anyone want to kill a stripped horse ? Slow day? roger

For the same reason one would like to kill a Halibut.....it's for the trophy status.....in the case of a zebra the hide and photos.....in the case of the halibut the meat and photos.....pretty much the same thing!

Well I have eaten horse before and I guess it ain't all bad.Kinda like walleye. roger

I used my 300 RUM to kill my Zebra shooting 200gr partition bullet at 285yds

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Originally posted by Jeff Alexander:

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Originally posted by Bryan Chick:
This is a bit off the subject, however, mayby someone will answer this. I asked this question on another forum and did not get a response, so, I'll tyr again. My question is: how durable are zebra skins; i.e. can I use one as a rug, a drape on a sofa, or just hanging on the wall?

You can use it as a rug - but its not too durable that way. The hair will rub off. I've got one as a wall mount and one as a pedestal mount. The one I get back next will be a rug - but I'm not going to walk on it much.

Jeff

That is a beautiful mount!

Only one zebra so far, with a 160 A Frame from a 7mmRem Mag. One shot laterally just above the hip into a kidney at 175 yards. He went down in fifty yards. The A Frame or TSX are the only bullets I would use, 180 grains in .30 cal.

"Use enough gun" also means use enough bullet.

Why kill a stripped horse?

That's what I thought when I went to Africa the first time. Then Zebra busted a number of stalks ... they are a PITA. Too many wary eyes willing to communicate your presence to everyone in the world.

Then the PH brought in the skull of a Lion they'd shot on a problem animal hunt. Huge specimen ... with a broken canine on one side and the other chipped. It had a crack in the lower jaw and the bone suture up the front of the skull was opened up and showed evidence of partial knitting together after the injury.

Seems the lion had been abused by some other animal, lost its ability to hunt effectively and had began to predate farmer's cattle resulting in his being declared a problem.

The speculation was that it had been kicked by either a giraffe or a zebra (with the zebra being more likely in the region).

Was told that zebra were a bit on the ornery side and actually had fighting teeth. Was also told they could be a very challenging hunt.

All of this was enough to sway my opinion. After taking the other things I had intended I had a few days left ... so I suggested we look for a Zebra. We did. Took three days of stalking to get that one tree close enough to take the shot. Turned out to be an old battle scarred stallion.

Terrific hunt that I greatly enjoyed!

That's why I shot a stripped horse ... and would do it again.

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Would a .30-caliber 165-grain Partition at 2,600 fps at the muzzle be adequate for zebra?

This one was shot with a 130G Triple Shock 270 Winchester. Put the bullet in the right place, and a 165 partition will work.

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Originally posted by sactoller:

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Originally posted by Jeff Alexander:

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Originally posted by Bryan Chick:
This is a bit off the subject, however, mayby someone will answer this. I asked this question on another forum and did not get a response, so, I'll tyr again. My question is: how durable are zebra skins; i.e. can I use one as a rug, a drape on a sofa, or just hanging on the wall?

You can use it as a rug - but its not too durable that way. The hair will rub off. I've got one as a wall mount and one as a pedestal mount. The one I get back next will be a rug - but I'm not going to walk on it much.

Jeff

That is a beautiful mount!

Thanks. That one was was shot with a 375HH with a 300G Trophy Bonded. It didn't die as quick as the one in the post above this one that was shot with a 130G in the same place. By the way, the 130G Triple Shock exited and may still be going.

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Would a .30-caliber 165-grain Partition at 2,600 fps at the muzzle be adequate for zebra?

If you are shooting a .30-06, you should be able to load those 165 gr. bullets to at least 2850 f.p.s. (using IMR4350 or H4350 or W760), which will increase the muzzle energy of the projectile from about 2477 ft. lb. to about 2950 ft. lb.

In a .308 Winchester you should be able to get at least 2700 f.p.s., and possibly as much as 2800, depending on the rifle and the powder.

If you are shooting a .300 Savage, then 2600 is probably max.

I realize that, as someone else writes, high velocities look good on paper and impress people, but what really counts is bullet placement.

Still, I think you should give yourself every advantage you can reasonably achieve.

I always slow my 180-grain Nosler Partitions down to 2,600 fps to give me an advantage in my 30-06.

But we don't all see things the same way.

.30cal 165np 2600MV
100yd 2390/2100
200yd 2190/1760
...nope, nothing of anything good there for Zeb....

Still think that field artillery is needed for zebra.

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I killed my zebra this year with a .338 Win. Mag. shooting 250 grain Nosler Partitions. Shot at 100 yards and dropped right there. My hunting partner shot his with a 7mm Rem. Mag using 160 grain Partitions. His also dropped on the spot.

Greg

But they might have dropped faster from a 88mm.

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Originally posted by BigChev4x4:
I killed my zebra this year with a .338 Win. Mag. shooting 250 grain Nosler Partitions. Shot at 100 yards and dropped right there. My hunting partner shot his with a 7mm Rem. Mag using 160 grain Partitions. His also dropped on the spot.

Greg

It's been said on this website a million times and it will be said again and again.....because it's so damn true.....

It's not how hard you hit them.....it's WHERE.....

A lot of great zebra photos however!!! ya gotta love it

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Originally posted by Hammer:

I always slow my 180-grain Nosler Partitions down to 2,600 fps to give me an advantage in my 30-06.

Then why don't you switch to a .308 Winchester? It would give you the same velocity, but be shorter and probably lighter and possibly more accurate.

Slow my 308 Winchesters down to 2,400 fps.

Slow my 460 Weatherby down to 2,600 with the 500-grain bullets.

Slow my 585 Nyati to about 2,300 fps with its 750s.

Save the hot loads for my Swifts.


Never understood the fascination with light rifles. After hoofing it with a 65+ year old PH across the Okavango for two weeks with him carrying a 13-lb double rifle and the PH just having Achilles tendon surgery less than a month before, I would have been embarrassed to complain about rifle weight.

Ever see the muskets/rifles that the Lewis & Clark expedition carried across the North American continent -- twice.

Always have McMillan add a couple of pounds of lead ballast to my stocks to make sure I can feel them.

As to accuracy, appreciate the accuracy accomplishments of the many fine target shooters in the world. They have demonstrated a lot to the rest of us. Have played the accuracy game myself and enjoyed it.

For field positions in the game fields, not sure I can detect the fine points between the 308 and the 30-06. Others may, but I am more limited at my age. Have never messed up a shot on game that I could blame on a missing 0.25 MOA of additional accuracy.

Limit myself these days to 200 yard initial shots. Of course, once the action starts, you shoot what the game gods gave you. After one well-placed shot on red lechwe fired from 200 yards with a 375 H&H, that particular lechwe was not impressed. The second shot was fired from 400 yards and this time he chose to go down. Now why would a lechwe not be impressed with a well-placed shot using a 300-grain Swift A-frame from a 375 H&H ? Guess he had not read all the proper literature and training manuals on how he was supposed to react. But he got the message on the second shot.

But to each their own.

We should enjoy what we have as long as we can before Obama comes for them.



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Originally posted by vapodog:

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Originally posted by bartsche:
Nice photos, but why would anyone want to kill a stripped horse ? Slow day? roger

For the same reason one would like to kill a Halibut.....it's for the trophy status.....in the case of a zebra the hide and photos.....in the case of the halibut the meat and photos.....pretty much the same thing!

Zebra make fine eating if cooked no more than medium rare. One of the best eating game animals.

I've killed five zebra. Four with a 375H&H shooting Federal's 300gr Trophy Bonded load. A 375H&H is the lightest rifle I'll take in dangerous game areas. Two softs and three solids underneath, just in case. Killed one with a 458 double rifle and a 500gr Woodleigh soft.

Since photos seem to be the order of the day, here are a few:










Rugs will loose hair if there is a lot of foot traffic on them, or if, like mine, they are your dogs' favorite place to lie.

JPK

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Zebra make fine eating if cooked no more than medium rare. One of the best eating game animals.

One of the more difficult butchering jobs is zebra.

Got to keep the dark meat separate from the white meat.

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