Hello!

Let´s not discuss the merits or non - merits of a Scout rifle, please!

My perfect Scout rifle would be:

CRF ( Win 70, CZ 550, Ruger or the MOA guns, the MAUSER 98 ;-))

Stripper clip feefing possible

double row mag, perhaps detachable ( but still stripper clip chargable!! ), made from an already established mag "base" -M 14. SR 25. FAL, ... 5 rd mag should fit flush.

Open sights

Posssibility, to mount a scope. Now I think the scout scopes are just "Scout Jokes"!

But the possibility to mount a scope, well forward, detachable, with perhaps two rings before the scopes adjustments, and with BIUS, is, what I am looking for! ( QD Rings or A.R.M.S. or LaRue ... please see the Picatinny on the new Ruger Scout )

Easy to get some peeps for Weaver or Ruger bases, but how to scope those rifles then??? Both is needed: scope and iron sight posssibility!

Was not there a Company, who built Scout rifles on Win 70 CRF actions? ( Brockman??? )( please help me!!! )

THX, Hermann

Brockman makes scout rifles, as does Grizzly Custom

Brockman makes a Talley sight base that has a pop up aperture site in it

XS sights has a aperture that fits on a weaver base, as does NECG (New England Custom gun)

The FN sniper rifle is a Win 70 CRF with bottom metal that takes detachable mags, that would be a good action to use for your project.

You may want to check out the Mad Dog Precision rifle at Empire Rifles website

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Originally posted by Arminius:
Hello!

Let´s not discuss the merits or non - merits of a Scout rifle, please!



Posssibility, to mount a scope. Now I think the scout scopes are just "Scout Jokes"!
THX, Hermann

For a guy that doesn't want to discuss the merits or non - merits of a Scout rifle you don't seem to abide by your own rules "Scout Jokes"! Indeed!!! roger

Savage 99 in 308.

Custom XS mount and XS sights.

Parkerize all the metal.

give the wood several coats of black crinkle paint.

3 Pachmyer flush mount sling swivel sockets.

ching Sling off a Steyr Scout.

Pachmyer Decelerator recoil pad.

Shorten LOP to 12 3/4 inches.

Add a Loopy Scout scope.

She is in my safe right now next to my steyr Scout and I like her better.

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Originally posted by Hasher:
Savage 99 in 308.

Custom XS mount and XS sights.

Parkerize all the metal.

give the wood several coats of black crinkle paint.

3 Pachmyer flush mount sling swivel sockets.

ching Sling off a Steyr Scout.

Pachmyer Decelerator recoil pad.

Shorten LOP to 12 3/4 inches.

Add a Loopy Scout scope.

She is in my safe right now next to my steyr Scout and I like her better.

Now for a scout rifle, I agree except for one point, that of the inability to rapidly reload the Savage 99. Now if you consider the Winchester Mod 88 with detachable magazines, that might work.

I guess I own the almost perfect scout rifle 03 springfeild can be feed by stripper clips. forward mounted weaver rail williams peep site. but doesn't have the detachable mag.

2x leupod scout scope in quick detachable mounts. Just makes hitting a lot easier for my old eyes

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Originally posted by Jim in MI:
Brockman makes scout rifles, as does Grizzly Custom

Brockman makes a Talley sight base that has a pop up aperture site in it

XS sights has a aperture that fits on a weaver base, as does NECG (New England Custom gun)

The FN sniper rifle is a Win 70 CRF with bottom metal that takes detachable mags, that would be a good action to use for your project.

You may want to check out the Mad Dog Precision rifle at Empire Rifles website

Wow!

Exactly, what I was looking for!

Thanks!

Hermann

I usualy give the Daisy red rider to my "scouts"..

Mine is a Swed with 2-6 bushnell on the rear sight base so no irons. in a tupperstock.

Rich

I have several...

My first one was a Remington 600 .308 with Leopold Detacho Mount and 60s vintage Redfield IER scope... Very light weight and well balanced...







Second was a Remington 700 Youth/synthetic .308. It has a B-Square Scout mount, Leupold IER scope, NECG peepsight on a Weaver base and also have a 3-9 Redfield Widefield with AccuTrack as a long range scope.











Last (at least for bolt guns) are a matched pair of Ruger stainless Frontier Rifles in .308 and .358... Leupold IER scopes, 1.5-5 Leupold scopes, NECG peepsights and Williams bases with XS white line posts....great hunting guns.









They are not perfect but they work....





Bob

RMJ they should work just fine.

RJM,

They're all nice, but I like the way you finished the Frontier after Ruger sold it as a "kit gun".


You should send them a photo of what a Scout rifle really needs.

RJM ! You better get a couple of those Hot Core. roger

Best scout rifle ever? Hands down; Steyr Scout Rifle, .308 w/ Leupold Scout Scope, built in bi-pod with box magazine ande spare magazine built into bottom of stock. If you haven't seen one or held one, take a look. I've sold a couple and customers love them.

Mike

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Steyr Scout

And people call the Ruger ugly......

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Originally posted by Rick R:
RJM,

They're all nice, but I like the way you finished the Frontier after Ruger sold it as a "kit gun".


You should send them a photo of what a Scout rifle really needs.

About two years before Ruger brought out the Frontier I wrote them a letter describing almost the gun they brought out but they left out the following from my suggestions:

Their excellent banded front sight;
Their fold down rear sight like on the rib of a Ruger #1A;
Synthetic stock;
18.5" barrel

I like what they brought out but really miss the very strong banded front sight. Their new Gunsight Scout is interesting...but too tactical...it's also not stainless.

Bob

A Winchester model 1895.

If one was to do it, like, really smartly, one would fit better open sights, re-stock it in laminate, cut the barrel and mount a weaver rail for a red dot sight.
Kinda like this:



To make it take-down would perhaps be a little iver the top, wouldn't you agree?
I admit, it would be handy when traveling but still...



Fact is, stripper clips could be used if I was to re-mount the load "ears", but as the rims of the case tend to overlap in the wrong way, the mother of all jams occurs. Fortunately only on the shooting range when trying!

- Lars/Finland

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Originally posted by Schauckis:
A Winchester model 1895.

If one was to do it, like, really smartly, one would fit better open sights, re-stock it in laminate, cut the barrel and mount a weaver rail for a red dot sight.
Kinda like this:



To make it take-down would perhaps be a little iver the top, wouldn't you agree?
I admit, it would be handy when traveling but still...



Fact is, stripper clips could be used if I was to re-mount the load "ears", but as the rims of the case tend to overlap in the wrong way, the mother of all jams occurs. Fortunately only on the shooting range when trying!

- Lars/Finland

Please tell me it's chambered for the 9.3x62...

Sorry: 8,2x53R

Kinda hard to get the extraction reliable with rimless ammo as the gun was originally made for rimmed ammo, you see.

- Lars/Finland

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Originally posted by Schauckis:
Sorry: 8,2x53R

Kinda hard to get the extraction reliable with rimless ammo as the gun was originally made for rimmed ammo, you see.

- Lars/Finland

That is a beautiful rifle... I have a non-takedown .405/95 and would love to have the scout mount you have done on yours...

Bob

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Originally posted by Schauckis:
A Winchester model 1895.

If one was to do it, like, really smartly, one would fit better open sights, re-stock it in laminate, cut the barrel and mount a weaver rail for a red dot sight.
Kinda like this:



To make it take-down would perhaps be a little iver the top, wouldn't you agree?
I admit, it would be handy when traveling but still...



Fact is, stripper clips could be used if I was to re-mount the load "ears", but as the rims of the case tend to overlap in the wrong way, the mother of all jams occurs. Fortunately only on the shooting range when trying!

- Lars/Finland

Would you perhaps sell me the "ears" for the stripper clip loading of 7,62 x 54R rounds???

Better: i would LOVE do own a decent Win 1895 in 7,62 Russian ...

Hermann

Perfect scout rifle? Thats an easy one, Lee Enfield No.4 Mk.1 or 2 with an XS scout scope mount and either a synthetic camo stock as I have on my hunting Enfield right now or a laminate. Played with this idea for a while but haven't ever had one built for some reason.
Cheers

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Originally posted by Arminius:

Would you perhaps sell me the "ears" for the stripper clip loading of 7,62 x 54R rounds???

Better: i would LOVE do own a decent Win 1895 in 7,62 Russian ...

Hermann

Sorry, no... I have them on my other Winchester. You know, the one in 7,62x53R. Far as I know, no-one has ever made one in 7,62x54R.

Look here for a 7,62. I think Erkki holds two, at least he had another not too long ago.
The 8,2mm seems to have the "ears" in place still. He would probably sell them separate, too.
Here are the contact details.

- Lars/Finland

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Originally posted by Schauckis:

quote:

Originally posted by Arminius:

Would you perhaps sell me the "ears" for the stripper clip loading of 7,62 x 54R rounds???

Better: i would LOVE do own a decent Win 1895 in 7,62 Russian ...

Hermann

Sorry, no... I have them on my other Winchester. You know, the one in 7,62x53R. Far as I know, no-one has ever made one in 7,62x54R.

Look here for a 7,62. I think Erkki holds two, at least he had another not too long ago.
The 8,2mm seems to have the "ears" in place still. He would probably sell them separate, too.
Here are the contact details.

- Lars/Finland

Actualy Lars, no one has ever manufactered from the factory an actual 7.62x53R Finnish, the 1895 Winchesters were all chambered for 7.62x54R Russian-unless Sako redid them as they did the Mosin rifles? By the way, thanks for the link! There are some nice, rare peices there. Staying on topic a Marlin 336 in .30-30 with XS sights would make a dandy scout rifle as well.
Cheers

I admit there to be a caliber 7,62x54R the minute someone posts a picture of a gun so chambered.



- Lars/Finland

This is what I ended up with:

1903 action

19" barrel with integral bases/front sight by Dan Pederson chambered in 30-06

MPI stock

Leupold scout scope in Precise Metalsmithing rings

Langlois ching sling and butt cuff

Talley rear peep (not shown)

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Originally posted by Chisana:
This is what I ended up with:

1903 action

19" barrel with integral bases/front sight by Dan Pederson chambered in 30-06

MPI stock

Leupold scout scope in Precise Metalsmithing rings

Langlois ching sling and butt cuff

Talley rear peep (not shown)

WOW!!

What a BEAUTY!!!!!

Hermann

I don´t want to nitpick, I know both Ammo names might be correct, but I stand by the designation I used:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62x54R

seems to be a whole Finnish affair, and the Winchesters were in 7,62 x 54 R, which was the theme in above post:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62_x_53R

OK, I give in.

I will not, however, start calling the round x54R.

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The Finnish commercial ammunition manufacturer Lapua does not make a difference between the 53R and 54R, but produces cartridges that will function in weapons chambered for either one.

I have actually as far as I can remember ever seen an ammo box (let alone a gun) with x54R designation.

- Lars/Finland

russian was x54r, finnish called it x53, same identical round

i had a nagant, with a finnish barrel, that shot REALLY WELL, was marked 53R

I realy wish I had kept my 7.62x54R ammunition when I sold all my Mosin's, or at least a few of the boxes then I could take pictures of them and post it and not just pull links off the net. That being said I see no reason for a Fin to start calling it by the Russian name, personaly I'm a fan of the cartridge and jealous of the sight you linked.
There are some amazing rifles there that we never see here in Canada, the only Mosin I have left is an old 91 in a Finnish stock that actualy has the acceptance marks of not only Russia and Finnland but at least one more. It also has an American made bolt body, just can't recall if it is Westinghouse or Remington-the barrel is still the original Izzy and looks realy nice on the inside but the rest of the rifle nothing matches so I haven't shot it.
Cheers

I have the best scout rifle. It's a Rem. 760, best running game rifle I have ever seen. A scout rifle in a bolt gun is too slow. It also made the 760 into a MOA gun. The scope is mounted on the barrel.... Tom

WW II K 98 receiver + Delcour 9,3x62 bbl. + Butler Creek stock with Ching sling + Leupold 2x EER scope in modified Burris mount.

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Originally posted by Andre Mertens:


WW II K 98 receiver + Delcour 9,3x62 bbl. + Butler Creek stock with Ching sling + Leupold 2x EER scope in modified Burris mount.

Do you really use it, André?

Or rather one of your other guns, e.g. from Blaser??

;-)

Hermann

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Originally posted by Arminius:

quote:

Originally posted by Andre Mertens:


WW II K 98 receiver + Delcour 9,3x62 bbl. + Butler Creek stock with Ching sling + Leupold 2x EER scope in modified Burris mount.

Do you really use it, André?

Or rather one of your other guns, e.g. from Blaser??

;-)

Hermann

It never ceases to amaze me the number of serious Blaser shooters/Owners (I have six of them!) that also have at least one Scout rifle.

In my case, I had an early Scout on a Remington 600, Williams FoolProof rear sight and Brown stock, one of my closest friends still owns it, then a Steyr Scout that I sold off for more Blaser stuff and now a new Ruger Scout...go figure. Not to mention this "Practical Rifle" in Remington 6.8SPC.

See the new Ruger Scout ,you will love it.

The new ruger scout has detachable magazine,flashhider,ghost ring sigths ,cf,etc ,etc is an almost perfect working rifle,.

As I posted in another post I have shot 3 Scout rifles from the Gun Site smithy and several "clones".

The Steyr Scout would be the best, IMHO.

But the Ruger appears to be worth a look.

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Originally posted by juanpozzi:
The new ruger scout has detachable magazine,flashhider,ghost ring sigths ,cf,etc ,etc is an almost perfect working rifle,.

Mine will be here next Thursday...

quote:

Originally posted by Arminius:

Do you really use it, André?

Or rather one of your other guns, e.g. from Blaser??

;-)

Hermann

I used my 9,3x62 scout during the 1999 hunting season when drive hunting. That's the year it was made and I wrote an article for a hunting magazine. With it, I shot 1 fox, 2 Roedeer and 1 hind (Red deer), all running. The combo worked very well indeed, but not better than my FN double 9,3x74R (fair weather) or my 9,3x62 Blaser R 93 (foul weather), which BTW are both much nicer to look at... I found the scout concept interesting but, having experienced it, I no longer think it constitutes a progress, as compared to a conventionally mounted "battue" scope.