I always thought it odd that big bores started with 375. I think medium bores should include 375. I also think there are big bores, and then Gonzo Bores, but that's a different subject.

It seems that when I see a discussion about 9.3, I usually read it, because the 9.3mm is the most interesting of all the rifles I have. About 15 years ago, I decided to have made a 9.3x62 on an FN action. I had a heck of a time finding a suitable barrel maker and someone with a reamer. That could have been because I just wasn't aware of many of the sources, as I am now, but it sure seems that the 9.3mm has surged in popularity in the last few years.

Now, you can get a barrel from Pac Nor, Douglas, Lilja, Shilen, Kreiger, Lothar Walther, and others. I think that says something.

I have rifles in 9.3x62, 9.3x57, 9.3x74R. I also have a wildcat 9.3x338, which duplicates the 9.3x64. My 9.3x62 has been brown bear tested. For a long time I have also favored the 416 caliber too, but that's my next project.

So, hopefully I'm qualified to join the club. I promise to behave - and piss off only in the 2% zone.

Kabluewy

welcome to the club. Gentlemen all, and willing to share personal experience and data garnered from other sites. Think of it as a 35 Whelen with a little more oomph!, that is also legal for DG in Africa, and suitable for any game on the planet if you make your shots count.

Rich
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I like the idea!

Actually, the only reason I go to the Medium Bore forum is for the 9.3 stuff!

I think I started the 9.3x62 and .404 craze on AR some 4 or 5 years ago. I have been hunting with both since the good Lord put dirt on the planet. Early on conversation with Harold Wolfe got me into the 9.3s, 404, and a recent article by Harold got me into the 10.75x68. He has me hooked, that guy is the real deal IMO.

I have been building the 9.3s for myself for a long time now, and folks keep buying them from me, so I make another one. I am presently finishing a real jewell with an Obendorf side panel stock with Schnable. It has full fiddle and dark black lines on a dark blood red matrix, this one is for me.

I do love the caliber, and with 250 gr. bullets its pretty savvy in the long range dept. I don't mind holdover thats easy, its wind that is hard to calculate, and those big long heavy slugs get by pretty well in wind. In the bush its speaks for itself.

My latest love is the 10.75x68, now thats a real light weight slim and trim buff rifle that won't take the top of your head off.

I might add that in my experience the 9.3x62 will come within 100 FPS of the 9.3x64 in all the rifles I have owned in those calibers, therefore I think it strange that anyone would say the 9.3x64 is Ok and the 62 is not.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
I might add that in my experience the 9.3x62 will come within 100 FPS of the 9.3x64 in all the rifles I have owned in those calibers, therefore I think it strange that anyone would say the 9.3x64 is Ok and the 62 is not.

When I decided on the x64, an older German friend, suggested the x62. Me being me, I HAD to have the x64. I don't have too much regret, about the decision. Aside of course, the price of dies and brass. But hey, that's the pirks of life.

.366,

we know you have too much money and too much time on your hands....



Rich
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With any luck I´ll return from SA in a month with a 10.75x68 in my baggage -keep your fingers crossed!

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
I might add that in my experience the 9.3x62 will come within 100 FPS of the 9.3x64 in all the rifles I have owned in those calibers, therefore I think it strange that anyone would say the 9.3x64 is Ok and the 62 is not.

Hi Ray!
Great to see you posting again...
Have REALLY good news. Friend has a barrel turning machine, and, both my 30-06, and my 375H&H are up with him. 30-06 Mark X Interarms is going to be converted to 9.3 X 62.

I shot a double Merkel 9.3 x 74, and, it recoiled like a 22lr, with 286 grain bullets. Gun weighed something like 6.5 pounds.

Since most of my shooting would be at close range, sounds like a perfect conversion for me.

Since that now makes my CZ 550 too close to the 9.3, it's going to be converted to at least a 450 Ackley, or, something bigger. While not quite the weight of the .500 Nitro Express double I shot, with .570 grain bullets, at 2100 fps, Perhaps a .510 Wells might be the way to go, then I could use my 525 grain cast bullets from the .510 MAX pistol I've got.

GS

Hey guys,
I think I may have a solution for the 9.3 forum idea.

I am having a website for the new ammunition company being built.

I will build in a modest forum funtion.

5.6mm European Cartridges
6.5 European cartridges (6.5 x 57, 6.5x68, 6.5 SKAN
No 6.5x55 forum, just links to the fine ones already out there.
7mm European cartridges (7x57, 7x64, 7x65R, etc.)
8mm European Cartridges (8x57, 8x64Br, 8x68S, etc.
9mm bastard stepchildren (9x57 comes to mind)
TA DA!!!! THE MAIN EVENT, Perfection in copper and lead, steel and walnut:
9.3x33R, 9.3x53R [postcard to uncle Joe], 9.3x57, aka a 30-30 that works, 9.3x62 - the perfect cartridge, 9.3x64Br is what the 375H&H would have been, could have been if the Limey poofters stopped yanking their buddies cranks long enough to think and machine clearly enough in the world of the 1898 Mauser action; 9.3x70EM - If it was good enough for my great(double entendre) uncle Hermann Goerinng, it remains great on everything from Shumba to dik dik. 9.3x338 Lapua Magnum wildcat. Hello Lapua, I need five cases of lock base, and scenar bullets in 9.3 mm size and 296 grain mass.
10.75 x 68 - a sop to those septuagenerian triple dipper retired government types from the South Central Magic Valley
404 Jeffreys - a sop to the poofters to be sure; If some Wogs had cut out some Earl's tongue, careful strapwork with a 404 Jeffreys cartridge - warmed to slightly above core body temperature would allow said Earl to maintain his social position, if not advance it by entertaining acquaintences from the hallowed halls of Whitehall.....

I have read about the "mountain pack howitzer", a lend lease weapon that inducted more than one straight spined subaltern to re-up in the China/India /Burma/Zipperhead (Nips, Japs, Yellow peril)Theater of Action.

At the end of the island campains, the ragtag remnants of the holy chrysthantheum warriors were dressed in a rag bag jock straps [kind of like the Spartans in "The 300", just minus 30 kilos in body weight, upper body strength depleted by lack of nutrients, and a serious lack of long term plans in their heads. _ When they were finally smoked out of the caves on the mountain tops; the Allied and American troops formed a phalanx of steel (well. 45ACP Thompson guns). There was one way that was not blocked however. There was a thirty foot wide pathway covered with soft mountain/meadow grasses. Generally the sub alpine flowers were in nearly full bloom. This set up was indead God's pathway to Oriental Nirvana. The poor survivors of the relentless bombardments and machine gun attacks naturally followed the orchid lined path as it opened into the morning sun and the smell of salt water from the waves crashing on the jagged basalt boulders two thousand feet below.

What to do???? Those people of a religious bent, tied their children close to their bosoms for closeness and comfort. They then took a final step into the abyss, much to the delight of the sea-lions sunning on the rocks below.

Those few of a practical nature, took off their ratty clothing remnants, put on their last touch of rouge and red lipstick; Slowly and demurely they advanced toward the strapping young soldiers, and said those fatefull word, "Indeed I love you no shit GI, We go Big BX now; so you can buy mee silk panties - one for every day of the week. Then I look good for you, and you taste me between layers of silk. PS Hot mud bath, hotter rinse cycle and then I walk on your back until every bone pops back into the place. So, GI, do you mind if I bring my younger sister, "Dewey, chewey and tasty (sweet and tart) cherry blossom to comfort you little brother in his time of shyness.

can you repeat all of that in english?

Rich
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Yes, I can.
Please don't ask me to say it three times fast though.

LD you do have a flare for litrature my man! Well done!

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I love you no shit GI, We go Big BX now; so you can buy mee silk panties

The line that i shall never forget went like this. Hey GI you want **** my moma? She a virgin... I adopted I adopted!

I'm just glad I spent MY time in Vietnam. The "Boom-Boom Girls" there at least spoke english. Full service programs, too. My team and I were out at least a hundred clicks from nowhere, and round the di-di trail come two young gals and a pappa-san with a back pack. They're plying their trade, and the old guy unlimbers his pack and has ice and a twelve pack of cold coke! Ice! You guys that were there, remember genuine ice? 130+ degrees, 99% humidity and all of a sudden, there's ICE!!and two cold cokes. For a year after I finally got home I can remember just cracking a tray of ice and putting a couple cubes on a plate or in a glass of water and watching it melt. I recall thinking what an awesome sight, and I could have more...right behind that white door on the left side of the refrigerator. Funny how time goes by and you forget things like that, and then somebody says or posts something; and it all seems to come back.

thanks for the time warp,

Rich
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Good (?) news of sorts. You guys seen the rotary/cannon breech single shot pistols that Competitor makes? Like the old Lone Eagle, but a better trigger. One of their 400+ chamberings is (drum roll, please).........9,3x62! Had to order one to check it out. Will report back in 30 days. I asked him if he wanted to build me one in my 550 Gibbs, and he sort-of sidestepped the question. Sort-of...I guess... "...what in God's name do you want with one of those in a pistol...?" means he didn't actually say "NO!!".

Rich
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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Good (?) news of sorts. You guys seen the rotary/cannon breech single shot pistols that Competitor makes? Like the old Lone Eagle, but a better trigger. One of their 400+ chamberings is (drum roll, please).........9,3x62! Had to order one to check it out. Will report back in 30 days. I asked him if he wanted to build me one in my 550 Gibbs, and he sort-of sidestepped the question. Sort-of...I guess... "...what in God's name do you want with one of those in a pistol...?" means he didn't actually say "NO!!".

Rich
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Yea well he may chamber one in a 550 Gibbs but I bet he would'nt do one up in a .375 Ruger! ....
Any of you fellows try cast boolits in a Husky 146 9.3X57 yet?...Their throats seem rather capacious...

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Good (?) news of sorts. You guys seen the rotary/cannon breech single shot pistols that Competitor makes? Like the old Lone Eagle, but a better trigger. One of their 400+ chamberings is (drum roll, please).........9,3x62! Had to order one to check it out. Will report back in 30 days. I asked him if he wanted to build me one in my 550 Gibbs, and he sort-of sidestepped the question. Sort-of...I guess... "...what in God's name do you want with one of those in a pistol...?" means he didn't actually say "NO!!".

Rich
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A 9.3x62 pistol. That would define "hand cannon".

.366Torque,

not even close...
Go check competitor-pistol.com and check the chamberings listing.

Rich
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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
.366Torque,

not even close...
Go check competitor-pistol.com and check the chamberings listing.

Rich
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HOLY CRAPPIN' CRAP!!!!! A 470 Capstick!!!!

I've been wanting a Competitor for years now! I'll be anxiously waiting to hear your full report on fit, function, and accuracy!! (Good caliber choice, too)

I would like to see Competitor offer this up in a carbine/rifle...It most likely would be ugly but very practical....If going by what they charge for their pistols a carbine/rifle would be a lot cheaper than a T/C Encore and no less ugly...

Low Wall,

go to the website and check out the carbines!!


Rich
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