Okay, I'll admit upfront I'm weird and sometimes impractical. So you don't have to tell me that...my wife does it better than any of you could anyway.

In another thread currently running here, I was discussing what to do with a .416 barrel I have, and mentioned an unused new MRC short magnum stainless action in my scrap pile too.

Was thinking I might do a 6.5 WSM on it, but alrady have maybe half a dozen various 6.5s, so what would be the gain worth the money?

Then I thought, well at the moment I only have a couple of .330" bore rifles, why not do a .318 WSM with a LW barrel?? From a practical standpoint it won't do ANYTHING the 325 WSM won't achieve in the hunting fields, but it COULD be a lot of fun to play with.

What do you guys think of that idea? And if I do it, I think I'll make it another composite-stocked Mannlicher to boot, just for silly grins.

Okay, ponder all that and have at 'er....



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Bill - Sorry to put this here with your post already here right next to it, but I was asked to move this from the Big Bore Forum, so am complying. Did not mean to usurp consideration of/responses to your thread. Sorry about that.

AC

When you described it I envision a .318-08 in a full length stock. The .318 WSM is intrigueing as well.
I say assemble what you got and shoot it, that would be fun for me!

Sounds nice to me.
What's the max over all length for the mag?
It would be nice to load the heavies out long if you can. That barrel screams heavies.

Mannlicher stocks are like cold beer. Everything is better with a cold beer.

Cheers, John

The only thing I would suggest is to use a "standard store bought" size bore diameter, like a .338.
Makes bullets much easier to get and much cheaper...

Sorry I am just getting more practicle as I get older...

AC, you must be a stouter senior citizen than I. Something like a 6.5 X 55 is about the max. recoil I can handle at the range.
Maybe you should do a deep throated 250-3000. roger

9.3 WSM maybe?

Actually if you want/need more Thump, than a 30/06, and do not want to go to the 375 H&H, in a Bolt Rifle the 9,3x62 is the way to go.

It is a great calibre. Not too much for deer and pigs, just enough for game up to cape buff.

In a Double Rifle, or other break open guns the 9,3x74R fills the same power level.

As ron states, there are no fleas on the 9,3's.

I have found the 9,3x74R to be a perfect hunting calibre.

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Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:
Okay, I'll admit upfront I'm weird and sometimes impractical.

Build a 318 WSM and you'll have all the evidence you'll ever need to prove your statement.

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Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
Actually if you want/need more Thump, than a 30/06, and do not want to go to the 375 H&H, in a Bolt Rifle the 9,3x62 is the way to go.

It is a great calibre. Not too much for deer and pigs, just enough for game up to cape buff.

In a Double Rifle, or other break open guns the 9,3x74R fills the same power level.

As ron states, there are no fleas on the 9,3's.

I have found the 9,3x74R to be a perfect hunting calibre.

I don't really NEED anything 450, though I certainly always appreciate your comments and know exactly what you are saying here is true. Thing is, I already have four six .375s and three 9.3s, including a DR. I actually bought that Montana action originally as one of a pair to build a 9.3 WSM and a .416 WSM on, when the short Winchester mags and the MRC "charter issue" actions first came available.

One of my friends wanted the 416 in the worst way, so I sold him one of the MRC actions for $350 delivered and he built the .416 WSM on it. I had a stroke about the same time and couldn't shoot for almost a year (was totally blind for several months and couldn't use my left arm) so never got my 9.3 WSM built. That's how the action ended up in my "possibles" box in the vault.

P.S. You want to be careful about letting that "practicality" creep up on you. That's a sure sign of terminal maturity. One of the reasons I am considering doing this is that I can. Practical be darned. With the Hornady 200 grain .330" spitzer SPs available, what's the down side? When I die and my guns are sold, I really won't care what they sell for or whether bullets are easy to come by.

And if my wife is worried about the reduced money they'll sell for, well tough nuggies. She spends more money on horses in a month than I spend on guns in 6 months.

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Originally posted by ron williams:
9.3 WSM maybe?

Ron - That's a good idea. Read my post response to NE 450 No. 2 directly above...please.

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Originally posted by bartsche:
AC, you must be a stouter senior citizen than I. Something like a 6.5 X 55 is about the max. recoil I can handle at the range.
Maybe you should do a deep throated 250-3000. roger

Roger...One of the things I've been contemplating putting together on yet another military 98 action I have is a 6m/m Donaldson Ace...that's a shortened and sharp shouldered 6m/m from the 1950s on the .250 Savage case. I have a reamer for it, just haven't gotten the time, health, and wealth all together at the same instant. Other projects always seem to steal the time or wealth before I get it done.

I think my curmudgeonly tendencies are bubbling up to the surface but the idea of putting the sainted .318 caliber into a (wretch!) WSM case gives me the cold robbies. Fortunately, you are not me so have at it and have fun.

how about something in a 8 mm bore size just cause it'd be much easier to find bullets, or there is the 35 wheelen plain or ai

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Originally posted by butchloc:
how about something in a 8 mm bore size just cause it'd be much easier to find bullets, or there is the 35 wheelen plain or ai

Much as I hate to admit thinking of a factory cartridge, I have also been considering a .325 WSM Butch.

But let me make this clear to everyone yet again. I have a sufficient number of rifles that I don't have to worry about easily available bullets. (And none of them are for sale. They are all for me and MY pleasure. So I don't have to worry about what they'll be worth or how easy they'll sell. Worst comes to worst I can always piece them out as parts and get more money that way anyhow.)

That doesn't mean I am trying to discourage comments. Just that I am more interested in comments about ballistics, comparable cartridges, the actual use(s) of rifles...real disadvantages, what might be a prefered way to configure it, what sights to use, etc.

Care and feeding I can manage. I currently have over 500 rounds of .330" bullets laid away from back when I had my last .318 WR, and 300 rounds of the new Hornadys which I've been slowly doling out to my 8x56R.

And with over 100 rifles in the vault, if any of my oddball rifles were currently put in mothballs because of component unavailability, I still wouldn't be hurting for a shootin' iron.

This is about pleasure, pure and simple. One of the nice things about old age....you've earned the right to be slightly nutsy when it comes to spoiling yourself. What's the polite word for that..."idiosyncratic", isn't it?

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Originally posted by Oldsarge:
I think my curmudgeonly tendencies are bubbling up to the surface but the idea of putting the sainted .318 caliber into a (wretch!) WSM case gives me the cold robbies. Fortunately, you are not me so have at it and have fun.

Old Sarge - Understand your sentiments completely. That is kind of like putting 1959 Caddie rear fenders on your new Beamer "7"-class, isn't it? Still if you were with guns like Jay Leno is when it comes to cars, it might be fun though, just for giggles when you drive down the street (or go to the range and/ or hunting camp)....

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Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:
What's the polite word for that..."idiosyncratic", isn't it?

the word I most often hear is "English"

How about a 318-333 Jeffery?
Only a 3 thou difference.

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Originally posted by boom stick:
How about a 318-333 Jeffery?
Only a 3 thou difference.

Boomie - not quite sure I know whether you are using American terminology, in which case you would apparently mean a .330" bullet from a .333 Jeffery case, or the Brit terminology, in which instance that would mean a .333" bullet from a .318WR case.

Neither seems any more practical or more fun to me than what I started out with in mind. At least I already have these .330" bullets and a flock of .300 WSM cases and an action to fit them......

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Originally posted by Ramsgate:

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Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:
What's the polite word for that..."idiosyncratic", isn't it?

the word I most often hear is "English"

Do you live in Ottawa and hang around the spicier girlie bars over in Hull? I might expect to hear cracks about the English over there....

Just joshing you..."English", eh?

Was thinking that the 333 Jeffery is a magnum size case being the parent case is the same size as the 404 Jeffery. The 318 bullet is three thou smaller but if that's the barrel you have I could see Just chambering it for the 333 Jeffery but using 318 bullets. If that's not your fancy that's cool. Thought a nostalgia bore would be well matched with a nostalgia case. How about a rebore vs rebarrel?