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Cape•Shok® .370 Sako Magnum

Big game hunters looking for a new caliber offering heavy bullets will love the .370 Sako Magnum. Federal Premium® will load a 286-gr Barnes® Triple-Shock X-Bullet option, as well as a 286-gr Nosler® Partition® offering. Like its European counterpart the 9.3x66mm Sako Magnum, the new .370 Sako Mag provides excellent stopping power and is a great choice for hunting large game at shorter distances.


FEATURES & BENEFITS

30-06 necked up to a .366 caliber
High energy
Standard action allows for more rounds in magazine
Heavy bullets for additional stopping power
PART NO. DESCRIPTION
P370B 370 Sako Mag 286-gr Nosler Partition
P370C 370 Sako Mag 286-gr Barnes Triple-Shock X-Bullet

370 SAKO MAGNUM NOSLER PARTITION

PREMIUM CAPESHOK


Federal Load No.
Factory Primer No.
Caliber
Bullet Weight
Grains / Grams
Bullet style
Use
T.B*

NEW
P370B
210
370 Sako Magnum
286 / 18.53
Nosler Partition
3 4
24

VELOCITY /FPS

Muzzle 2550
100 2371
200 2200
300 2036
400 1878
500 1731

Energy in Foot Pounds

Muzzle 4129
100 3571
200 3074
300 2632
400 2241
500 1902



Wind Drift in Inches 10 MPH Crosswind

100 0.7
200 3.2
300 7.4
400 13.5
500 22.3

Average Range

50
100
200
300

0.0

-4.7
-16.6

Long Range

50
100
200
300
400
500

1.1
2.4

-9.5
-27.2
-55.3








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So we now officially have a .36 Whelen?

Does this mean cheaper brass for the 9.3x66 that I am having built??where can I get some brass???

basicly a 35 whelen loaded to its full potential...

without the factory whelen drawbacks of slow twist and short throats.

I never want to hear whelen bashing again after this...

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:


basicly a 35 whelen loaded to its full potential...

without the factory whelen drawbacks of slow twist and short throats.

I never want to hear whelen bashing again after this...

quote:

30-06 necked up to a .366 caliber

sounds a lot more like a 9.3 X 62 to me.....the Whelen still sucks!

That takes care of the ammo, where is the gun?

quote:

Originally posted by bill23:
Like its European counterpart the 9.3x66mm Sako Magnum, the new .370 Sako Mag provides excellent stopping power and is a great choice for hunting large game at shorter distances.

Not only counterpart, it is the same cartridge with an American name. What ever made them do it..................???

If necked up to .375, that would have been another story.

The 370 SAKO amounts to nothing but a hot loaded 9.3X62 with brass that is even more expensive and hard to find.

Not sure if there's really a need for this but I guess the idea of more choices is better. What's interesting is that they're calling it a magnum.

So the 06 case is being used for a .25, .270, .280, .30, .338, .358 and now a .366. Pretty versatile if you ask me.

Like its European counterpart the 9.3x66mm Sako...30-06 necked up to a .366 caliber

We can't have it both ways, guys. Read the post. Federal's text says it's a 9.3x66. I think that the poster added the part about the 30-06 necked up to .366. So it's not a 9.3x62.

It is the 9.3x66 which is 2.66 vs. 2.52 long compared to the 9.3x62 and loaded to higher pressures. Also, those velocities and energies look a bit weak. Federal must be soft loading. That 286 grain Partition should have over 5000 pounds of energy at the muzzle. Hmmm...

quote:

Originally posted by CARNE:
That takes care of the ammo, where is the gun?

Beretta will start importing the Sako 85 models chambered in 9.3x66 Sako. Hopefully brass will be made available from somebody. I spoke with Federal and they will not be offering brass to the public.

Aaah... those Finn's are apealing to the marketing susceptible Americans... slap "magnum" on it and give it an SAE delineation...

The rifle is made by Sako (Hunter 85) and is available.

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=...7&products_id=104984

Why do they call it a 370?

To confuse the unwashed masses with the 375 to sell more...

366 standard does not sound as sexy as 370 magnum

quote:

Originally posted by Fjold:
Why do they call it a 370?

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:
To confuse the unwashed masses with the 375 to sell more...

366 standard does not sound as sexy as 370 magnum

boom's right. I think it's kinda like $3.99 instead of $4. They want us to think it's a different number.

I am thinking of renaming the 35 Whelen the 36 magnum

Unless some wierd changes have been made behind closed doors at Federal, I think Federal Cartridge Co. might be setting themselves up for the same problem Remington had when they renamed the .280 Rem. to .208 Rem. Express.

The original work done on the 9.3 X 66 (aka, .370 Sako Magnum) was accomplished by running the "9.3x62" chambering reamer in an additional 4mm. This kept the original shoulder angle and the base diameter of the original case.

Federal is saying this is a "necked up 30-06" ... anyone else see the makings of a really bad law suit? First off, the shoulder angles are different -- head space problem if not done right. Secondly, the the case diameter, just forward of the extractor groove of a 30-06 is .464 inches where as the base of the 9.3x62 (and the original 9.3x66 Sako) is .472 inches.

Anyone know for sure what the specs are on the .370 Sako Magnum?

Here is the case diagram for the 9.3x66/370 Sako Magnum: http://www.z-hat.com/images/9.3x66%20drawing.pdf

In speaking with Federal, the 370 Sako Mag. is simply a different name for the 9.3x66 Sako. There were no modifications other than a name change.

I have twenty boxes of 9.3x66 Sako brass, soon to be ammunition. It is actually priced reasonably at Reimar Johannsen.

Erkki Kauppi,
The ammunition manager at Sako came up with the round a little over twenty years ago. He knew that the newer rifles could handle the hybrid VV-N540 and N-550 powders. The brass is also a little thicker in the web area.

Basically, it works better with the modern uber bullets than the 9.3x62. I am very well pleased with my 9.3x66. If you already own a 30-06, it is quite easy to have a switch barrel made in 9.3x66.

Erkki says it knocks moose over noticeably easier than the 30-06 or 9.3x62.

You can make decent brass out of the 30-06 basic brass, but that doesn't save money here in the US.

Reimar Johannsen is very easy to deal with for the officially head stamped brass. It is damned good brass.

Good hunting,

PS Look on the sako.fi website. All the loads are listed. I like the Partition load best of all. I also use the 250 grain Accubond - very accurate.

Are the velocity potentials of the 370 less than that of the Brenneke, or are they pretty close? Thanks guys.

Pretty darn close.

For Africa, use the 9.3x64 (more case capacity).

For more northern climates the 9.3x66 is a dandy; five cartridges instead of four. All the perfect people on AR never need more than one or two bullets, but us real world schlubs occaisionally screw things up, and need all we can get.

LD

Guys, I gotta ask... Why do you suppose that Sako just didn't chamber the superb 9,3X64 instead? The load data for the 9,3X64 is already out there, RWS makes good brass... I don't get it. Why reinvent the wheel? If they had chambered the 9,3X64, they would have had a cartridge that really was the equal of the .375.

Dave

quote:

Originally posted by Dave Bush:
Guys, I gotta ask... Why do you suppose that Sako just didn't chamber the superb 9,3X64 instead? The load data for the 9,3X64 is already out there, RWS makes good brass... I don't get it. Why reinvent the wheel? If they had chambered the 9,3X64, they would have had a cartridge that really was the equal of the .375.

Dave

Yep! I agree with you!! However asking for rationality in todays world, is like trying to make a differance by farting in a tornado!!

quote:

Originally posted by Dave Bush:
Guys, I gotta ask... Why do you suppose that Sako just didn't chamber the superb 9,3X64 instead? The load data for the 9,3X64 is already out there, RWS makes good brass... I don't get it. Why reinvent the wheel? If they had chambered the 9,3X64, they would have had a cartridge that really was the equal of the .375.

Dave

Just guessing here but I suspect Sako, like a lot of others these days, probably wanted their name on a proprietary cartridge. Nothing wrong with that and seeing as how it was designed in-house, it makes even more sense. I also wonder if the 9.3 Brenneke's funny rim diameter has something to do with its general lack of acceptance in the production rifle world.

quote:

Originally posted by Dave Bush:
Guys, I gotta ask... Why do you suppose that Sako just didn't chamber the superb 9,3X64 instead? The load data for the 9,3X64 is already out there, RWS makes good brass... I don't get it. Why reinvent the wheel? If they had chambered the 9,3X64, they would have had a cartridge that really was the equal of the .375.

Dave

+1 Why bother.