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1 rifle for everything: deer, goat, moose, elk and potential bear country of NA. | ||
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i have both and you cant pick only 1 ...arent we gunnutz ...? | |||
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Both are great rounds....the 340 offers more versatility for longer shots! memtb You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel | |||
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I voted for the 340 WBY, even though I am extremely fond of the 375 Ruger. I believe the 340 would be a better do-it-all. I do not own, nor have ever owned a 340. Though have shot one at the range and have had brass and a donor rifle to re-barrel for several years. I cannot fully convince myself that the 340 is worth the effort over the 338 Winchester. The 338 Winchester is my present do-it-all choice and has been for many years. Always compromises in the do-everything choices. | |||
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Forgot to mention that the bullet choice of the Barnes TTSX 210 gr. @ 250 fps quicker than the 338 Winchester Magnum makes the effort worth while for rams. | |||
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I picked the .340 because I have shot one for many years and taken a huge Alaskan Yukon Moose as well as several Bull Elk and Mule Deer. My bullets of choice 225 Northfork and Barnes XLC. A 4 X 16 Burris Signature scope has served me well. Good Shooting. phurley | |||
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I consider 250fps gain being important, much like going from a 30-06 Springfield to the 300 Winchester Magnum yet their seems to be much 338 Winchester Magnum following on this forum. | |||
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I have a 24” 340 wby on a 700 action. Scoped and loaded it’s around 7.75 lbs (less). That package is a lot of horsepower for what it is and though it’s stocked right I wouldn’t want lighter and wouldn’t want a longer barrel. I find that the 200-225 gr bullets (partitions and accubonds) have quite a wollup to them, shoot flat and penetrate deep. I am not sure there is an advantage or disadvantage in either cartridge. A more practical comparison to me would be a 338 WM vs 375 Ruger. 2 of my 338s when on diets with shorter 22” barrels and new stocks and I am pretty pleased with them. Regards, smallfry I am back from a long Hiatus... or whatever. Take care. smallfry | |||
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It the .338 WM had been in the equation....it would have been my first choice! memtb You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel | |||
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.375 H&H. All The Best ... | |||
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Same here. | |||
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Maybe because I have a 375 Ruger Guide Gun. Choice is the 375 Ruger between the two. Non belted case in a standard action. I load Nosler 300gr. Accubond bullets. Less meat damage on a mule deer doe I shot on a damage control hunt then the 270wsm that I had shooting 150gr. bullets. | |||
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I didn't vote because your poll is broken...... The 30/06 tab is missing.? A high capacity Magnum is not a requirement to hunt the North American continent. | |||
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Lmao, yes. Really for me it comes down to what I want the rifle to be like/purpose then the cartridge. Lots of great choices I am back from a long Hiatus... or whatever. Take care. smallfry | |||
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They're both good calibers. The 375 Ruger can be found in accurate, light, inexpensive rifles. And diameter counts, at least out to 400 yards. So hunting 0-400 yards, the Ruger. For over-400, the Weatherby. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Is this another please help me validate my love of the 340 weatherby threads? http://forums.accuratereloadin...3221043/m/6981039632 Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Mike, as usual you are very astute. | |||
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I think it would depend more on the rifle you want to use. My local gun shop has one of these Mossberg Laminate for $399 You wont be finding a Weatherby for less than $1200. -------------------- THANOS WAS RIGHT! | |||
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$400 for a DG all-arounder. ! ! Has anyone tried to see what kind of accuracy can be rung out of it? +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Guy I used to shoot with had a 340. It had quite the sharp recoil and thumped pretty good. I don't know if it was just that the stock didn't fit me really well and slapped me around but I didn't care for it at all. He put a muzzle brake on it to try and tame the recoil but ended up selling it. Recoil was reduced but the muzzle blast was out of control. He stepped down to a 300WM as his all around rifle. As for me I don't feel my 375 Ruger African kicked anywhere near as bad as the 340 Wby did. It might be close but didn't seem as sharp. | |||
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When I owned a .338 Win Mag, it seemed to me that the recoil was about the same as my .375 H&H.....I didn't like either of them. Since then I have built two .375 Rugers.....both on M-70 push feed rifles both originally chambered in 7mm Rem Mag.....The Ruger offering makes it easy to make a .375 on a standard action.....But both seem to offer more recoil than my .375 H&H I'll probably never go back to Africa so I'm just happy as a pig in mud with my .30-06....it just plain works and don't hick the snot out of me. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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I love my 340. It’s built on a new M-70 SS action and has a Benchmark fluted #4 in a B&C stock. Was going to upgrade to a McMillan, but the B&C works so well. With a Leu 3.5x10x40 in Talley LWs, the whole rig weighs around 8.25 lbs. Recoil with 225 TTSXs at 3000 fps is very tolerable. To me, the 340 provides a lot of thump without a lot of recoil. That said, 375s are very nice too.... | |||
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When you say, "potential bear country of NA," are you including AK, or are you referring only to the lower 48? All The Best ... | |||
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Nobody in their right mind, with a serious hunting guide standing right next to them, takes "400 yard" shots on bear in AK with their .375 (Ruger or H&H). You just work closer, say inside 200yds, and then shoot. All The Best ... | |||
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Game taken with 375 Ruger: Whitetail Buck: 300 DGX behind last rib with upward angle. It exited the bottom of chest ( of course) Deer went maybe 35 yards. One Elk: 270 grain spire point at 50 yards to the neck. My big Euro boar: 270 spire point first round through the lungs exited lots of blood. second shot in the flank behind the ribs, exited did not expand. Third shot took out the sternum and ball joint. The bullet exited and blew huge chucks of bone through the exit | |||
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The '06 would probably be my pick. Let's face it, you're going to shoot a lot more deer than the bigger stuff, and the '06 does just fine on elk and moose anyway. For me at least, a coastal brown bear hunt is probably out of reach financially, and that's the only thing in NA I might feel undergunned for with a .30-06. | |||
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I would be as comfortable with one as the other if the situation had to be one way or the other, but the 375 Ruger is the better option by a bit.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Some people might take a quick shot at an elk up close in timber . . . and diameter counts. And that same elk at 350 to 400 yards benefits form diameter, too. Out past 400 yards I tend to give BC a higher rating because it resists wind-drift, preserves energy-smack, and gives better bullet placement. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Could i get their number? opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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The Ruger is much more likely to be accurate than the Weatherby due to the lack of free bore. But a Ruger's crappy action and the sand paper feel as you work it makes me lean towards the Weatherby  | |||
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Are we making our choice on rifles without sissy slots ? Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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No, muzzle brake will be a part of every rifle I build in the future. | |||
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A 400 yard shot with the 340 Weatherby seems quite easy with a muzzle brake. The recoil is probably under 20 pounds. I have decided on the 340 with Barnes 210 TTSX. | |||
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It’s also quite easy without a brake at under 40ft lbs. | |||
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MBs are banned in many - if not most - hunting camps in Africa. Not sure about Alaska, but it's probably controlled by the rules of the camp guide taking you out up there. No guide or PH wants to go deaf just because you can't handle the recoil of the cartridge & rifle you choose to hunt with. All The Best ... | |||
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"Up close" ain't the same as 400-yds out. Pay attention, gramps. . . .
Wasn't disputing "diameter," but the notion of taking 400-yd shots on moving game like elk, moose, or bear is nothing more than fantasy-land talk for 99% of the wannabe Elmer Keiths or John "Ponodoro" Taylors posting on hunting boards like this one. In the real world, it's called a huge miss. Animal loooong gone. Most guys are lucky just to keep 3 out of 5 shots with a big bore in the black at 50- or 100-yds off a comfy bench at their local range. C'mon, let's get serious.  All The Best ... | |||
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I feel that way. If you need a brake to handle a gun. Get a smaller gun. The aught six and 300 win kill monster bears just as well as that 340 or 375. Crap so will a 270, well that’s what the brownie on my wall says anyway. But that’s just me. I don’t like bino bra’s either. | |||
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I can't believe a guide would turn away business because of a muzzle brake! A person can easily buy foam plugs formed on a neck strap and worn throughout the day. Time for client to fire, is a two second insert of the plugs. | |||
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Never heard of one turning down business because of them. I’d just get ear protection and eye protection instead.... | |||
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