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Talking to one of my buddies on a near daily basis on some truly terrible investments that have gone from cheap to cheaper to stupid cheap in the age of covid. He mentioned he has to get on a call with the ceo of one of his private equity investments that was actually working out great in the age of Covid. Turns out he is a large investor in Savage Arms. He has invited me to the Savage Plant and shot shows in the future. I told him I will get a rifle too and we will go to shot after your current investments works out. How accurate are savage rifles ? I have enough hunting rifles. I am thinking of have them build me a custom https://www.savagearms.com/con...duct_summary&s=22865 Or maybe if they build a left hand benchrest. Thanks for any info Mike | ||
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I only have one Savage rifle, and frankly, I think it is one of the most stupidly designed of anything. Loading the magazine is such a convoluted effort, I gave up using it. A friend who is a gunsmith said it was designed that way. | |||
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The long range precision varminter (LRPV) is one of the most accurate rifles out there. Single shot action, acu-trigger, heavy barrel. beaver tail stock: my 204 consistently shoots 5 shot 3/8" groups at 100 yards. | |||
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Their bolt action design leaves a lot to be desired. The old original 99s are really fine + well-built rifles. I have a scout in 308 that is almost as the Colonel designed. However for investment purposes, at this time I think that most gun sales will bring a profit. As far as I know, Ruger + S+W has gone public so I would think shares in those companies might be a good investment. But I'm sure I'm not the 1st. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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There is a cottages industry from the major barrel makers providing Savage drop in/almost drop in barrels. I am not a Savage fan, but the barrel makers are something. You can take those cheap, injection molded plastic stocks and bend them in your hands. Sadly, bc of the race to the profit margin Savage started that can be said about something in the Majors’ line. | |||
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very accurate, out of the box, parts are cheap, ugly as the north end of a south bound mule. i have several, and all of them shoot, bolt action centerfire that is opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I have a 30-06 action rebored to 9.3X62 by JES. It is great as a shooter with an older 2 3/4 X Redfield wide angle scope. It does anything I have asked of it. Fugly? Yes. Efficient as a 9.3? Yes. I have seen worse and more lame engineering in other firearms. I believe mine was made in the Ron Coburn age at Savage. Pretty is as pretty does. Efficient is pretty to me. Be Well, Packy. | |||
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I agree. I have one of these in .223. It is very accurate out of the box. At 100 yards, my best 5 shot group measured .321 inches (.307 MOA) and I've been able to get enough sub 0.5 inch groups to become a believer in Savage rifles. My Savage FCV in .204 is even more accurate w/39 Sierras (several <0.4 in. @ 100 yards). But that rifle has a Choate stock on it. | |||
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Ok, in the real world, the basic 110 design leaves nothing to be desired for the following reasons; simplicity of manufacture, cost, and self centering floating lug design, reliability and accuracy; it is just a reliable design. It is one of the post ww2 rifle designs that needed to move away from milled forgings, and investment castings were not ready yet, due to the rising labor costs. There is a reason it has lasted, unchanged since 1950 or so. If you expect a forged and milled bolt for less than $300; that is a dream. I built my first rifle on a Savage in 1969; it outshot my Model 70 easily. Later I built some varmint rifles on them, in the 80s; all shot .5 on a bad day. I even called Savage and asked them how they did it. The marketing lady said; all our effort goes into the barrels, still button rifled and precision made, after everyone else went to hammer forged. NO need to replace the barrels; they will shoot along with any custom one. Yes, the bolts are made from 20 stamped parts. The receivers are made from bar stock, and the stocks are $5 tupperware, but the simple fact is, they work. They are not fancy walnut and polished milled steel; but they don't cost $3k either and they will out shoot most of the custom rifles too. | |||
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Totally agree. Recently bought a model 10 left hand for my son in .260 Rem. It’s a remarkable shooter, but not my taste due to the cheap but effective synthetic stock, but wow it shoots. And my son, being 24, doesn’t want pretty wood, he wants black guns. Whatever. JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72 David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55 Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06 Walther PPQ H2 9mm Walther PPS M2 Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus And Too Many More | |||
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Having a close friend in a major barrel making company, he agrees Savage's are very good, but said the barrels were soft and didn't last as long as other premium barrels. I heard the soft barrel thing for DPMS too. | |||
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I would like to see the quantitative data on the soft barrels because that does not agree with what I have seen. And I have see a few barrels; a few hundred. | |||
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ugly, ha. I posted this before, the magazine is double to single so it can be a bit different to load but it's all steel and puts all other to shame.  | |||
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I thought the same thing about loading the mag! Till my son showed me: Lay the cartridge on top and push down! DUH!!! Simple and works GREAT! Get Close and Wack'em Hard | |||
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Savage was the first Blaser, so you'll love it. Nut on the barrel, nut behind the butt pad. ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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let's not forget that one can generally also set headspace as tight as they want on the savage, provided they aren't picky about barrel stamping, or sight, alignment. opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Yes I forgot that design feature; efficient and accurate. Guys can disparage them all day, but at the end of it. they perform, at a very low price. I did put a brake on a detach mag version; they are not that hard to mange. Comparing them to a Blaser is a non sequitur. | |||
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A non-sequitur from a non-Mensa member? :-) | |||
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I realize that Blaser owners have a high opinion of themselves, but Mensa? Please....  ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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I have 5 or so savage varmint rifles heavy barreled 223s one 22-250 and one 308 accurate as all get out. Great varmint rifles I would not use them for big game hunting. Ejection and feeding problems with all of them. I carry spare extractors, springs and balls as I have had them just disappear during use. Not good when in the middle of no where. | |||
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Sounds like the Land Rover of firearms... Carry lots of spares, and oil. ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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Mensa only requires an IQ of 132. Mine is above that. Not a joke. But you are right; I am not a member. | |||
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I am a lowly 128 on the Mensa score list. Either way. I have a Savage m12. Only the receiver remains. Benchmark barrel in 6mm BR Trigger is Rifle Basics Sav 2 (sucks) Stock is a Hs Precision (nice stock) I don't use it much, but it will punch 5 shots into a 5th of an inch with 95 grain Bergers and a 30 grains of Varget. | |||
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Careful my ex wife belonged to Mensa. I did say ex didn't I?  I've never owned a savage bolt gun but have shot a few. I guess if someone likes them I guess it's ok. I just never warmed up to them or liked how they felt. Realistically they are just an early version of the type of bolt action that has pretty much taken over the market. Inexpensive guns that tend to shot good. To me they look like they are made out of plumbing parts from the hardware store.  [url=https://postimages.org/]  [/urlRoger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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I,too, think Savage rifles are ugly, but pretty is as pretty does... I had savage custom shop put together a left hand youth model, for my son, in 204 Ruger, as that caliber was not offered in the LH youth model. It cost me $200 more than the standard gun, but it was well worth it. A dime covers up three shot groups. The magazine did take a little getting used to, but it works fine. IMHO, the custom shop is one of the best things Savage has going for it. That may not be true from their financial perspective, I don’t know, but no other major manufacturer has a custom shop like theirs anymore. For very little extra money, one can get a custom chambering in most of their models. Ruger advertises a custom shop, but it’s a joke. I think Remington only offers fairly expensive custom shop offerings, and Winchester’s high dollar custom shop is long gone. Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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Savage rifles are Very accurate. I built a 6.5 Creed on one.  | |||
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I am another fan of Savage rifles. Out of the box, super accurate. I have a .338 Lapua that shoots 1/2 MOA at 500 yards, and it isn't picky about OAL, unlike my custom Lapua. Only complaint is extraction; I frequently have stuck cases with the Savage...it is apparently an issue with the Lapua. | |||
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Extraction "issues", not just with the .338 Lapua. ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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There was a thread in American Forum about axis bolts coming unglued in shooters. | |||
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+1 on the Fugly, I bought a used Axis in .308 for my daughter in law, after a couple hrs with trigger springs & shims it shoots fantastic, cheap $199.00 & Bad FUGLY!!  | |||
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I've had a few that I enjoyed and have always had great accuracy. Owned a Model 10FP in .308 that I wish I still had. It was extremely accurate. I've been picking up the Model 11's used for around $200. I currently have one in .243 that I am trying to decide whether to practice barrel replacement with it (Wow these barrels are inexpensive) or just leave it be. The SHAW and EABCO barrels have some decent reviews. I'd like to mess with a .358 or 338 Federal but the factory barrel is so accurate I kinda feel bad about changing anything. The YouTube videos on barrel replacement on these actions make it look like a cake walk. Great back-up / Bad weather / Borrow guns. Won't fill the needs of us AR members because of looks and material. "Let me start off with two words: Made in America" | |||
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I've heard of a few quality issues and the 110 action looks a bit no-assed but I guess that could be a plus when working it from the shoulder - less to hit you in the chops. My cousin has a Savage 458WM that fits me so well I could use it with no rear sight at all, at all. | |||
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fwiw savage did/does make a bolt head with an "unsupported lower rim" :-) | |||
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An "everyman's" rifle not particularly attractive to higher end buyers but really great rifles overall. I don't know about all the extraction problems but my 223 and many others had under sized ball bearings under the extractor that let them slide off the rim. When we bought .140 balls from McMaster Carr the problem went away. Granted you shouldn't have to do that but it was a five cent fix. | |||
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Educate ME on McMaster-Carr! I just ordered a pack of .140 balls. There was a company that sold a kit with oversized balls but they apparently went out of business. Thanks Tiggertate! I own a bunch of custom rifles (built for accuracy, not beauty) but Savage holds its own. | |||
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In my tunnel visioned world a Savage rifle is a 1895 or 1899 model in .303 Savage. Thats a good rifle with its limitations...but steel and wood fitted well. DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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I believe it was a number 3 steel shot that works also. | |||
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Savage bolt rifles are the most accurate right out of the box. They produced a phenomenally accurate button rifled barrel at low cost. They are still ugly and cheaply made, especially the extractor parts that wear out easily. The fix is cheap and easy. The current prices, however, puts the bolt guns above good value. Geoff Shooter | |||
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oversized balls, never mind, at first I thought you were talking about me. | |||
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Im a avid fan of certain mod. 99 Savage rifles, The early mod. 110 was a decent rifle, but I never bought one, I never cared for the later Savage bolt actions...I did like and still do the old Savage mod. 20 in 250-3000, owned several back in the day, still like them..fun gun. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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