I just picked some up. The reported .550 BC got my attention.

I shot some Wild Boar and Roe Deer with this bullet and it performed perfectly !




P.s notice the 2 shot wounds on the roe deer on the 2 photo…! The deer was running so fast I thought I mist the first shot, but it turn out that I shot it almost in the same hole the deer ran about 20 metres after the first shot and fell down immediately after the second shot ! There was a huge hole on the other side…

I've been using the tried and true 225 Partition in my .338, but I am interested in the Accubond, both for its very high B.C. and for its deformation-resistant tip. I'd like to hear of some more results, also.

i know several who have shot big game with this bullet and results were excellent.one shot an elk at 1300 yards last year with one and said it flat out busted that elk up! for hunting big game in your neck of the woods, i don't think you'll find anything better.

i'm getting ready to test the 250 gr Sierra game king at long range. it has an ever so slightly better BC than the accubond and might work a little better on our small eastern whitetails.

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Originally posted by im_paid_to_kill:
i know several who have shot big game with this bullet and results were excellent.one shot an elk at 1300 yards last year with one and said it flat out busted that elk up! for hunting big game in your neck of the woods, i don't think you'll find anything better.

i'm getting ready to test the 250 gr Sierra game king at long range. it has an ever so slightly better BC than the accubond and might work a little better on our small eastern whitetails.

1300 yards heh!

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:
I've been using the tried and true 225 Partition in my .338, but I am interested in the Accubond, both for its very high B.C. and for its deformation-resistant tip. I'd like to hear of some more results, also.

Ditto! Exactly what "hooked" me.

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Originally posted by im_paid_to_kill:
i know several who have shot big game with this bullet and results were excellent.one shot an elk at 1300 yards last year with one and said it flat out busted that elk up!

WOW!! 1300 yds is a very impressive feat!! I was thinking of a 4-500 yd max.

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My impression, having killed a handful of elk, some muleys, shot boxes at targets from both the 330 Dakota and 338 Win Mag:
Extremely accurate in many rifles, hold together much better than cup and core, though my experience with recovered bullets has put them at between 57 and 70% retention. They tend to open up radically at high velocity which can go either way--I prefer an exit and didn't always get it even with powerful calibers. I've switched to TSX's for the the 338 and kept with the Accubonds for the 30-06 class 30's and 375's. They are very reasonable to shoot, given their performance, which is a strong argument in their favor....

Here's a pic of a 260g .375 from a 375-06AI stem to stern in a muley. Not the caliber you mentioned but consistent withthe performance I have experienced.

Snowcat,
Not to side track the thread,
But are you by any chance able to enlighten us as to what vel./accuracy(barrel length?)you achieved with that 260AB/.375-06AI..??

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Originally posted by powerguy:

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Originally posted by im_paid_to_kill:
i know several who have shot big game with this bullet and results were excellent.one shot an elk at 1300 yards last year with one and said it flat out busted that elk up! for hunting big game in your neck of the woods, i don't think you'll find anything better.

i'm getting ready to test the 250 gr Sierra game king at long range. it has an ever so slightly better BC than the accubond and might work a little better on our small eastern whitetails.

1300 yards heh!

yea.....me too....makes one want to grab for the flag!

I have seen some very bad pereformance with the 225 AB out of a .338 UM.

The bullet struck the point of the on shoulder made a sharp right turn never got to the vitals and penetrated less than 8 ".

The recovered slug weighed 138grs and was expanded almost back to the last 1/8th inch of the tail of the bullet.

The next shot killed the bull with a broad side shot that penetrated behind the shoulder and exited the off side.

I think that at UM velocity the AB is a bit soft.

vapodog, if you have a problem with those distances, then don't bother.the question was asked about terminal performance and i simply wanted to let whoever know that the bullet will work very good even at very long distances on elk.he also got very good results on the other game he shot at long range.

Woodjack-

56.5 H4895 gets me just under 2600 from a 23" #3 Shilen. Accuracy is superb. The above bullet impacted at roughly 40yds--I'd guess similar to an H&H at 120 yds.

I shot a 6x6 Elk with one a few years back. It worked just fine. Shot another with a 200gr 30cal the next year, it worked fine too.
If you want stem to stern penetration with an exit you might try a TSX but if you prefer a larger wound channel with maybe not an exit then the Accubond is a good way to go.............................DJ

An elk hit a 1300 yds.? will not expand any bullet, go test it on some media, maybe your range finder is out of wack..besides that, shooting elk at 1300 yards is about the best way I know to wound one and its not sporting IMO..

I have done such things in my misspent cowboy youth, but I now know better and learned that the hard way.

The bottom line with long range shooting on game is a good shot will more than likely hit a lot of the animal he shoots at and more than likely he will wound more than he kills and at those distances you seldom recover them.

A piss poor shot will just miss, so I would rather hunt with a piss poor shot under those circumstances.....go figure.

1300 yards what a nice round number.Sure it wasnt 1317 or 1284? It would only be the difference between hit or miss. I call bullsh..

I've never used them but two of my friends one of who posts here, JohnS had some bad experiences with them on deer elk and another gent wirh his 338 and 225 Accubonds in Africa. Perhaps he'l chime in. jorge

Does the BC really matter out to the ranges you hunt with your 338? It would not for me so I'll stick with the Partition or TSX both of which I know work, even when the presentation is less than ideal.

I'm going to try the .338 225gr Accubonds to see how they shoot out of my 338 Lapua. I have used 250gr Partitions and 210 TSXs with success on mulies and elk but the nose deformation on even the TSXs makes their feeding on my TRGS an iffy thing on a second shot. If the 225 Accubonds shoot well (and they should) I will use them this year on my mule buck and cow elk.

John

JKS

The tip of the accubond will deform in the 338 Lapua TRG-S. They shoot very good but the tips do take a beating. I used both the 210 TSX and 225 accubond in Africa in my 338 Lapua TRG-S and didnt have any feeding probs.

Getting back to the original question, shot a bunch of African plains game with it no problems. Used it in 338 Lapua,338 RUM and 338-378 WBY animals went nowhere but down.

Aloha!

Atkinson, bwest, didn't ask for your opinions,but your beliefs are the same as others when you attempt to take game at "ridiculous" ranges over 200 yards. some will tell you that they used to do it in their cowboy youth but have learned better and you will get all kinds of flack for talking about it. as for the yardage, it was 1302. didn't realize 2 yards would get peoples skivies in a weggy but i understand shots are rarely on an even number.as for bullet performance at that range, he did a lot of testing with different bullets and found the accubond to be the best consistent performer at long ranges, and yes, they will open up at ranges much farther than that.i think he used wet newspaper, telephone books, and cow bones for test media.

i'll attempt to post a link where you can go read about it for yourselves. it's actually a pretty good read with pictures.i'm not a puter boy but here goes.

longrangehunting.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18217&highlight=1302+yard+elk&page=2

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Originally posted by UltraMag:
JKS

The tip of the accubond will deform in the 338 Lapua TRG-S. They shoot very good but the tips do take a beating. I used both the 210 TSX and 225 accubond in Africa in my 338 Lapua TRG-S and didnt have any feeding probs.

Getting back to the original question, shot a bunch of African plains game with it no problems. Used it in 338 Lapua,338 RUM and 338-378 WBY animals went nowhere but down.

Aloha!

will you marry me...
why cant there be more of you
can you do seminars to train more women???
you could make a killing (pun) prepping women to be hunters and hunters wives.

1300 yards !
Good shooting, lousy hunting.

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1300 yards !
Good shooting, lousy hunting.

Perfect! ..................DJ

1300 yds, makes you wonder how little energy the bullet had left. Must had a 50 bmg, rock solid rest, steady wind across 1300 yds of terain and no thermals, a target that stayed still for the 3 seconds it would take for the bullet to hit from the time the trigger was pulled, a range finder that can range that far, a good wind gauge to check wind speed. All that range and able to hit a vital area of 8"

Not that I am accusing any one of being full of crap, I just doubt that anyone would take the equipment necessary to make a 1000 yd+ shot on an elk hunt. That leaves the possibility that someone took a pop shot at an elk at too long of a range, wounded it, and took a long time tracking it down to finish it off.

Case in point, the Iraq War part II presented the longest sniper kill recorded with a bolt action 308 rifle, the snipers response was, "This guy was shooting at my friends, it was the luckiest shot of my life, I didn't think I would hit him."

John

I couldn't find the 1300 yard one but here is the post for a 1203 yard shot.

He was using the 225 grain Accubond and I think he was aiming for the boiler works on the cow Elk and hit her in the head. Now these guys are really geared up and prepared.

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1300 yards !
Good shooting, lousy hunting.

Ditto

BBBHunter, actually we do take all the stuff it takes to make long shots. the range finder he had will range much father than 1300 yards. the bullet had something in the neighborhood of 900 ft lbs of energy and the hang time was something in the 2 second range, not 3. you also need more than just a wind meter.you'll need an altimeter, cosine indicator, and barometric pressure capabilities.that particular guy plugs all the info into a puter to get his scope corrections.

the cow elk was shot by a guy using the same gun used on the 1300 bull. i'm not sure but i don't think he had ever shot the gun before.i don't agree with that, in my mind you should shoot a gun enough to be familiar with it before you attempt any shot at an animal.and to attempt a shot at long range, the gun should be an extension of your arm.

As for hang time, I guestimated using 3200 fps MV and BC around .400 which is roughly 2.7 secs. Been a while since I took Calculus, I have to rely on charts....

You will find most people have strong feelings against shooting animals from a bench. The so called biffalo hunters from the 19th Century have permanently etched the wretchedness into our minds. Having taken shots at those ranges, I feel most comfortable out to 400 yds without a well trained spotter armed with ballistic tables. That being said, barometric readings, altimeters, etc. have one weakness... they measure only at the shooting site. Air pressure varies over 1300 yds, thermals also affect drop, wind will change directions at least twice, maybe three times.

Definately a tough shot. Not one I would take for an 8" kill zone. 900 ft lbs of energy is about the same as a 45ACP, I am disapoointed with anyone who would use an animal for a stunt.

John

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Originally posted by UltraMag:
JKS

The tip of the accubond will deform in the 338 Lapua TRG-S. They shoot very good but the tips do take a beating. I used both the 210 TSX and 225 accubond in Africa in my 338 Lapua TRG-S and didnt have any feeding probs.

Getting back to the original question, shot a bunch of African plains game with it no problems. Used it in 338 Lapua,338 RUM and 338-378 WBY animals went nowhere but down.

Aloha!

will you marry me...
why cant there be more of you
can you do seminars to train more women???
you could make a killing (pun) prepping women to be hunters and hunters wives.

Ummm...... boom have you seen this photo?

lol...i am married as well. i thought ultramag was a woman. i guess maybe both him and his wife use that name...it is just rare to have a woman hunter.

great shot of the kids with the kill. i am sure they ate well off that boar. i hope to back to hawaii soon and get a boar on the na pali coast.

BBBH,you're close on the MV but the BC is .550. i think he stated that in the original post/question. i was simply answering his question in that i thought the accubond was a great all around bullet for most big game animals, and it worked very well even at longer ranges.this has turned into a slam long range hunting post and that's not fair to the original poster.i will say that on some forums, if you mentioned shooting game at 400 yards, you would hear every negative comment that several have expressed about long range hunting.the same exact stuff because you would be taking shots at ridiculous ranges and bla, bla, bla.some would also make fun of your "hunting" challenge using a scoped rifle and shooting game at 100-200 yards.the point is some hunt with bows, muzzle loaders, big guns, little guns. but we're all hunting the way we want to and we shouldn't condone others who differ from your beliefs.

the bottom line is i think the 338-225gr bullet is a game killing machine!