Can someone please enlighten me as to what accuracy one can expect from a Remington BDL in 33WM or other calibers in general. Thanks.

Arjun

reddy375

I offer the following info:

I have never shot a Remington Model 7, wood, fiberglass, or the new black plastic stock in calibres 223, 243, 6mm, 7mm/08, 308 [several 308's] or 350 RM that was not very accurate.

For over 23 years, I have NEVER seen a heavy barreled Remington 700, in any calibre, and I have seen a few hundred of them shot, that was not very accurate...

I have never seen a 700 Sporter that did not shoot good enough to hunt with...

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Originally posted by reddy375:
Can someone please enlighten me as to what accuracy one can expect from a Remington BDL in 33WM or other calibers in general. Thanks.

Arjun

My personal experience is to expect excellent accuracy......often less than MOA

Most I've owned shot minute of whitetail.
GWB

My 338 RUM BDL will shoot a 1" group at 200yds using accubond bullets. With other ammo she will
Shoot a 1" to 2" Groups.

My experience; they are either very good or very bad.

I have a 700 Mountain Rifle DBM in 7mm-08 that will shoot under 1/2" W/Federal Premium 140 gr Ballistics tips & selected handloads.

I HAD a 700 Mountain Rifle DBM in 280 that would not shoot better than 2 1/2"-3" W/ANYTHING.

Chamber/throat casts W/cerrosafe revealed that it had a chamber that was .004" off center. Calls to Remington resulted in the old "that should not affect accuracy" BS.

On the advice of a friend I traded it rather than doing a song & dance W/Remington. The 700 CDL 280 that I traded it for shot 3/4" groups until a pillar bedding job shrank the groups to 1/2".

Very good. Most will give you out of the box 1.5" groups (real live 5 shot groups)or under. With the obligatory trigger adjustment and perhaps a little tinkering, most will give you MOA or sub MOA 5 shot groups.
Folks that will tell you they are getting .5" groups with store bought ammo are shooting 3 shot groups and will lie about other things too.

IMO they don't shoot that great out of the box, but if you glass bed them they all shoot very, very accurately.

I have a BDL .300 RUM that is pure factory except for a bedding job (plastic stock). It is amazing. I own 9 7/700s and they are all very accurate.

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
IMO they don't shoot that great out of the box, but if you glass bed them they all shoot very, very accurately.

I have a BDL .300 RUM that is pure factory except for a bedding job (plastic stock). It is amazing. I own 9 7/700s and they are all very accurate.

Pretty much same for me. I have 6 Rem 700's. 4 are CDL's and 2 are LSS. All have actions trued and restocked. All factory barrels. 270, 30-06, 7mm Rem mag, 300RUM, 338RUMx2. All of them will shoot sub MOA 5 shot groups (handloads) from the bench. With exception of the 7mm Rem Mag, they all shoot Sierra MK's, NBT's, and Accubonds really well.

I should clarify that I haven't tried the 7mm Mag w. Accubonds or BT's yet.

I have only used 2:

1) Model 7 SS in .308 - we could not get that to shoot well at all, very dissapointing.

2) Model 700 SPS Varmint .223 - my friend acquired it the other day - very accurate. Right out of the box with dirt cheap Amerian Eagle 50gr HP's it was sub MOA, with some groups around 0.5". Remington 45gr UMC's were not that good. I would to see what it would do with good qaulity ammo or handloads!

Thanks folks I appreciate your replies.

Roll the dice. You may get lucky and get one that is very accurate or you may not. I personally know quite a few people who have them and some get good accuracy and some not so good. Although you can always work on it to try to improve accuracy. I am not a fan of Remingtons and I own a 700 CDL. I don't plan to buy another one unless it is used and cheap.

Probably a bit on the heavy side, but the Rem. Model 700 PSS in either 223 or 308 are some of the most accurate factory rifles available. Full aluminum bedding system, 26" barrel and triggers are easily adjusted to something over 2 lbs which is plenty light enough for good shooting. Barrels will copper up initially, but good cleaning techniques and shooting will clean that up within a hundred rounds or so. Very good entry prone match style rifle and after a bit of practice, cold barrel, first shot is very dependable. Some versions were offered w/ 5R/12twist barrels and have shot those as well as std. versions and both do the job quite well.
.5moa groups of five rounds not uncommon with good loads. Quite a few shooters have shot High Master scores at Long Range with one of these rifles and that's about as good as it gets.

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My 338 RUM BDL will shoot a 1" group at 200yds using accubond bullets. With other ammo she will
Shoot a 1" to 2" Groups.

Mine too. Tackdrivers.

Anytime you buy a new shooter it's a roll of the dice, and the losers end up on the used rack.

I think that the chances of getting a great shooter from the Remington 700 line are very high. Also if it turns out to be less than average the remedies are easier than some of the other manufacturers.

My percentages with Remington 700's producing good groups is probably around 80%. Good luck and be sure to look at the crown before purchasing.

I needed to bed my M700 in 6.5 Swede and the one in 30-06 to get the best accuracy out of them.

In the Swede, the barrel touched the side of the stock and the action must have been sliding left and right. Because some groups really had a left right movement.

The 30-06 was in one of those tupperware stocks. Restocking and bedding did not do a whole bunch. But it will shoot close to an inch at 100 yards, if I get a two inch group it is not the rifle's fault.

When you are talking about a 338 Winchester Mag (I assume that is what you meant by 33WM) I would not be able to shoot target level accuracy with the thing. I am flinching with my 35 Whelen, a 338Win Mag, it would be worse.

As stated before, your rifle should be able to hit anything within a reasonable range if you do your part.

FWIW my 700 CDL in 270 Win was a 1.5 - 2 shooter w. 3 shot groups until I had the action squared and stock bedded. Now I get .5 - .75 5 shot groups w. 140gr Sierra GK.

IMHO that pressure point BS in the wood stocks is a detriment to accuracy. At the very least sand it down.

Back to topic, I have found their barrels to be very accurate. Much like a Savage barrel. Not puuurttty but they do shoot.

I took my 700 BDL 338WM shooting Federal NP 250 grains to Namibia for plainsgame and was very pleased with accuracy and knockdown power. My rifle is factory plain but what a shooter!
John

its rare that a bedded remmie won't shoot at or near MOA .. most shooters can't hold alot better

My classic Whelen, 25-06 are both very accurate averaging around 1" to 1.25" without much fussing around with ammo and bedding. I am sure I can do better with the 25-06 when I find the time.
However my .280 stainless mtn rifle is 1.5-2.0" and I have wasted enough time with that rifle. Going to trade it in on another project.
So, in my limited experience, the rifles are pretty good and can be made to shoot great! BTW, all my rifles were bought used, and there is always a reason they were traded in!

2" at 100 is "goo to 250" for a 6" vital ... and i never shoot that far at uninjured game

I've shot the BDL, Sendero, XR-100, Customs on 700 action, and 721, 722, and 788. All were accurate.

The 700 action has nice sleek lines.

Have a 700 classic in 6.5X55, first three shots out of it went 3/4" @ 100yds it a pure, deer killing machine.

My latest, a model 7, stainless/synthetic, in 7mm SAUM is shooting around 1" with handloads, in its stock form. Am thinking hard about a good synthetic stock for it, i bet it will improve accuracy a little, those tupper ware stocks are pretty cheesy....

I have had nothing but great success with Remington rifles. I currently own 2 of them. Both 700 BDL's. One is a .270 and the other is a .300 Win Mag. I handload for both of them and consistently get .5 to .67" groups with both.

reddy375

I own 8 Model 700's ranging from 17 Rem up to 7mm Rem Mag and I have never had one that would not shoot MOA out of the box. And in the field I have never had mechanical failure. I handload and get outstanding accuracy.

Steve

In my experience, they are so-so out of the box, but you have to work on almost all of them to make them shoot really well. The only exception to that is my PSS. I have a 223 LVSSF that I had to remove the stupid pressure points before it would even shoot less than 2" at 100. Is is a 5 minute job, just annoying.

same, they are average out of the box in accuracy. LTT rifle in 308 would only do 1.5 inches with Federal match ammo, old Model 7 with blue steel honest 3 inch gun, 243 ADL 1.5 inches with factory ammo nothing special. The bolt handles are said to break off as they are silver soldered to the bolt, the two position saftey has been dangerous in the past, maybe fixed now, you could do a lot better with Ruger or Savage.

I must say I've been very fortunate, All my Rems have been great shooters and I have been very happy with their performance.

I have a Model 700 Laminate stock mountain rifle in 30.06 that is just okay in accuracy terms. I also have a 700 CDL 270 that I have not figured out a load for yet. May have to get it bedded. My buddy had a 300 RUM 700 that shot patterns not groups. Other than that all the 700 rifles I have or friends have are very accurate.

BigB