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as i answered in the NA calibers my choice has been 270 win and 9,3x62 with Zastava actions ... | |||
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9.3x62 and 7x64 or (6.5x55) tough choices here ! | |||
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6.5x54MS because I have always wanted one 9.3x62 because it is a great all arounder 30+ years experience tells me that perfection hit at .264. Others are adequate but anything before or after is wishful thinking. | |||
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Yes, in WWI the 7.62x54 was made in USA for Russian Army, and today it's like 30-06 - weight of bullet, powder and so on. Siamese round 8x52R was like Russian, but I think Japanese Murata 8x52R (rare of course) is like too. | |||
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7x61 Sharpe & Hart + .358 Norma Magnum What couldn't one take with that combo! Of course, one would lose one's ammo so one wouldn't be able to take anything, at all... Realistically, 6,5x55 + 9,3x62. This is a combo I'd take if buying a take-down bolt with interchangeable barrel (Sauer 202 in other words). The mentioned 7x64 + 9,3x64 would be lovely, indeed; but again one wouldn't want to lose the ammo case when traveling... If a double (O/U) it'd probably be 9,4x74R + 7x65R. This I really gave a lot of thought to when I was considering a double. Well - still am... The alternative would be .450/400 + 8x57IRS - Lars/Finland A.k.a. Bwana One-Shot | |||
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6.5x68 and 9.3x64 would work for me. | |||
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those ones are great choices too ... | |||
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Dittos! I have both for my Blaser R8. | |||
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6.5x68 & 8x68S on Blaser R93 work for me. | |||
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Looks like Europeans like the functional equivalent of the 270 and 35Whelen (or should i call these 6.8x64 and 8.9x63?) +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Me thinks you nailed it, as well as a number of others in this thread, great choice  Mine are only the barrels though, which fit perfectly into R93s.-------- There are those who only reload so they can shoot, and then there are those who only shoot so they can reload. I belong to the first group. Dom --------- | |||
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I saw this heading and immeiate thought of these tow calibers which I have owned. The other two with open sights and cool factor are 6.5X54 MS & 9.5X54 MS - I own both! The MS rifles are a real joy to carry and the action is oiled silk.
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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7x57 and 9,3x62 in M98, cant get more Europeean than that  Or if I was a dedicatet Big Game Hunter: 300 H&H and 375 H&H both in ZKK 602  Arild Iversen. | |||
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 Dave DRSS Chapuis 9.3X74 Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL Krieghoff 500/.416 NE Krieghoff 500 NE "Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer" "If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition). | |||
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7x57mm and .404 Jefferys | |||
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I'm half way there. I have a wonderful 16 / 7x65r combination gun by Joseph Hambrusch. F pennies were no object I would ask him to build me another identical frame with a pair of 375 flanged ( or 9.3x74) barrels, plus a pair of 16 bore barrels for driven flying game. I would then have in one case a pair of guns I can use on anything. Whilst I was about it I ought to get to make another pair of barrels with a 7x65r and one of he European rimmed 22cf cartridges. | |||
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6.5x55 and .375 H&H are what I use. The only two rifle cartridges i've actually hunted with for the last few years. It's not the caliber of the rifle that matters - It's the caliber of the man behind it. | |||
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Ditto. "The right to bear arms" insures your right to freedom, free speech, religion, your choice of doctors, etc. ....etc. ....etc.... -----------------------------------one trillion seconds = 31,709 years------------------- | |||
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The 7x64 takes the place of the .30-06 outside of the US. If you need a little more "oomf," the 8x68S is a fine medium bore. For the 2nd cartridge, any 9.3. (I've always considered the 7x57 to be more of a central/south American cartidge than a European one) | |||
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I am totally in love with the 6.5x55 and 9.3x62 combo. I have a pair of CZ 550's in these calibers. The question is what is the next step up from 9.3 that you could have in a matched set??? Cheers, John Give me COFFEE and nobody gets hurt | |||
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It's a nice combination of calibers BUT a 9.3x62 will do anything a 6.55X55 will and a 6.5x55 will do almost anything a 9.3 can (in the lower 48). Yeah I have 1 6.5 and 3 9.3s but could really get by with one 9.3 or better yet an 6.5x68 and 8x68..... that would be a serious pair ! | |||
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Thought about this a bit more. The trouble with two matching rifles, save for calibre is that they actually fill the same job almost. Better is two rifles, one being a light calibre - one of the faster 6.5s would be ideal with a powerful ish scope, and quite a long barrel for longer range and small game work. Doesn't need to be particularly heavy, light enough to carry all day, but accurate to take a250 yd shot at a fox / roe deer etc. The second be 7mm plus, 9.3 or 375, being top end and should be after handling rifle for boar, even driven boar and other big game. Accuracy - well accurate enough to put bullet in the boiler room of deer at 150 yds. Scope 1.5-6x42, and / or1-4x20, with a detachable mount with open sights. No reason why the two rifles should nt be. Similar in style and built on the same action, but to be truly useful they should handle differently. | |||
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6,5x55 because it is norwegian 9,3x62 because it is perfect for moose  | |||
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I have a gun that fits this perfectly. It is in 6.5-06 and has a Zeiss 6-24x56 scope. It has a Shilen Select Match Grade 26" barrel. It is accurate enough to shoot crows and head shots on hares out to 300 meters. It is my favorite gun and the one I always choose when I know I need to shoot fast, long range or/and very accurate in all sorts of positions. I have owned the gun for 20 years and it fits me perfectly. I use it for everything from crows to Moose. It is really the only gun I really need for hunting unless I want to hunt buffs, but it would be to boring to own one gun only The only times I have seen the need for something bigger here in Norway is when I have been tracking Moose wounded by other hunters or by cars. Earlier I had a 9.3x62 and now I have a 375Ruger for that. | |||
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 Second choice: This should serve to take anything up to brown bear but don't intend to kill one any time soon.  Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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I LOVE THE LONGRANGE TALK. and in a European context I am surprised that the 338 Lapua (AKA 8.58x69 Lapua magnum) isn't mentioned more often. Is the Lapua forbidden from many European hunters? +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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I know a few who has them, but I choosed the .378Wea instead. Much more ideal for charging roebucks. Maybe in England where hunters are forbidden to play with powerful calibers the .338Lapua is forbidden. DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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Hey, Jens, no flies on the 378 Weatherby. But the Lapua is more European. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Sublime MS choices.
577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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The 338Lapua is totally legal here in Norway. I really like the 338Lapua for real long range shooting, but I don't really see the point of me owning one where I live now as it is very far for me to drive to a shooting range where I can shoot at longer ranges than 300 meters. At most shooting ranges here I can't shoot past 200 meters... And I really think you need to practice a lot for long range shooting to really master it. I was good at it before, but I have no idea how well I will do today at 500 meters and longer since it is many years since I did it. So today I keep my shots inside 300 meters since that is what I am able to practice at and I am very confident at those ranges and I don't need a 338Lapua for that  Another thing here in Norway is that it is often regarded as unethical to shoot much past 100 meters while hunting and you can risk to get charged for inhumane/unethical hunting if a warden see you shoot much past 100 meters.... This has happened to a number of Reindeer hunters in Norway as they often hunt in open areas(mountains) and the ranges can become longish and the wardens can also view the hunters actions from very long distances. | |||
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Thank you for the insight into Norwegian hunting. The 100 meter range explains the widespread love of the 6.5 and 9.3x62. And the 9.3 will certainly get an "elk"s attention (moose). On the other hand, using a Lapua might make 200-300 meter reindeer shots more ethical. High velocity, high BC bullets can keep wind drift within 15 cm/6 inches. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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For single shots or doubles, I'd want a 7x65R and a 9.3x74R or again a 7x65-R and a .450/.400R. For bolt guns, an 8x57 (or any other length), and 9.3x64. My country gal's just a moonshiner's daughter, but I love her still. | |||
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7x57 and 9.3x64 Brenneke | |||
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My choice is 9,3x62 at first and would be 8x68s or 338 Blaser Mag as 2nd; however due to ammo availability/choice I decided for the American 338WM which is really a great calibre (power of the 9,3x62 with trajectory of 300WM ) The 338 Lapua has for sure amazing performances but too heavy rifles designed mainly for shooting than hunting IMO (and there is no barrel for my Blaser R8!). | |||
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7x57 and 9,3x64 | |||
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A pair of Manlicher Schoenauers in 7X64 and 9.3X62 would suit me.. AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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Assuming England counts as Part of Europe, my picks are the 6.5x55 and the .375 h&h. | |||
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6.5X75 & 358 Norma Magnum I tend to use more than enough gun | |||
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Assuming England counts as Part of Europe, I would have too go for a 300 H&H and the 375 H&H or maybe the 350 Rigby and a 416 Rigby. "I went to the woods because I wanted to live deliberately. To front only the essential facts of life and see if I could not learn what it had to teach and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived"- Thoreau | |||
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A pair of Rigbys.. Nice! Id have to say a 275 and a 350.. Works for anything in my neck of the woods. All I gotta do is re-chamber my Whelen and Im there.. AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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