My family has gone to sierras for deer, not like we hunt anything else. (had to add that caveat.) We have found more shattered bullets with Hornadys than anything else. My dad uses 100 gr sierras in the 243 and they don't blow up too badly. Dad's cheap. He'll step over a dollar to pick up a penny, though. I'd stick with Nosler Partitions for the 243. But I've had pretty good results on deer with my sierras in 140 gr 7mm Mauser at a little over 2800 fps and 150's out of a .308 at essentially the same speed. Recovered bullets were significantly lighter, but there was still an effective core. Many times when I didn't hit the shoulder blade, the bullet ripped right through and kept going well into the ground. Probably would have killed another deer standing behind it.
If you are shooting something FAST and SMALL, go for a premium bullet. For most anything 6.5 or bigger, a Sierra would be good.

raybass ------ I like the old Nosler Solidbase in 130 grain for my .270 WSM. They are hard to find, but I managed to horde 20 boxs of their blems. Good shooting.

I think I'll start with Noslers solid base when I can land some like phurley has. I missed out on the last bunch.

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Originally posted by raybass:
I think I'll start with Noslers solid base when I can land some like phurley has. I missed out on the last bunch.

I've got a bunch. I can ship some to you. How many do you want?

They still have the 130 grain solid based soft points on sale at www.shootersproshop.com. Click on the facttory seconds link then on the solid base link. It will come up most likely with the 6MM link, click on the darkened solid base link at the upper corner and it will change to the 130 .277 version.

Thanks rickt300, I really did not know that. If they didn't come up automatically I thought they were out.

damm you Rick, everytime you post that link i spend at least a hundred bucks. thanks

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Just for whitetail guys, but what's the tougher of the bunch between Hornady, Speer and Sierra? I'm looking into loading for a 270 Win. and was wondering which was the better bullet. I like accuracy but also a decent bullet. What is your favorite?

I'm biased towards Hornady, I can't count the number of deer I've killed and seen killed with the 130gr SP and 140gr BTSP.

Any more, there are only two brands on my reloading shelf:
1. Hornady SP's
2. Barnes TSX's.

I'm sure Sierra and Speer work just fine, but I have never found myself wanting when using the two bullets listed above.

I have been disappointed in Grand Slams (too hard).

NP's work as advertised.

I did shoot a deer with a 220gr Speer FP out of 350 Rem Mag. I felt the bullet was soft. It made an absolute mess of the deer.

I messed around with BT's in the mid 80's and they exhibited frangible type performance.

I used Interbonds one season, and honestly couldn't tell the difference in performance from the SP's. They are pretty though, with the fancy tip, and super sleek profile.

Thank You SD, I'll still probably use TSX's at times just thought I would try some other stuff on deer and piggies(we still have a season for pigs left). I'll probably pig hunt with my 35 Whelen since I struck out on elk this year, plus I want to see how a 250gr Hornady will do on a pig. Thanks fellas

I personally don't think you can beat plain ole Remington Core-Lokt bullets. They are as inexpensive as any and shoot just as good in most guns. I have never seen one come apart. They usually will be under the skin on the far side. I personally don't care for Sierra's on animals you want to find/keep. They are probably the most accurate bullet on the market but I've had them come apart on more than one occasion. But that was 20 years ago. They probably have fixed that by now. They are great for varmints. Any of the solid copper front bullets have a reputation for not tracking straight through an animal. They can and do wander off track and make 90 degree turns when hitting bones etc. I have seen this first hand. I know of someonen who had 1/3 of a G-2 tine severed off a trophy 170 class buck. The bullet went in at the shoulder. I would not use Nosler Ballistic tips under any circumstances. I have seen jacket seperation 4 times in the last 2 years. And I literally mean jacket seperation. Found the hull of the copper jacket with absolutely no trace of lead in or on it! One that was shot into a 6'X5' bale of hay.
The plastic tipped bullets seem to be a bit explosive upon entry and exit for my liking. Leads me to wonder what might happen if I had to make a bone breaking shot on a trophy. I have good luck with the old Winchester Silvertip, but those were all neck shots. No experience with a bone buster shot on those either. Nosler Partitons work great but you said inexpensive bullets. So I would stay with the Rems. or Hornady Soft points and stay away from the plastic tips.

I am a .270 man, and if you are focusing on whitetails, a really "tough bullet" isn't that important. I mean you dont want a grenade, but any "non-premium" bullet that is well known, will kill a whitetail.The Important thing is to find out which bullet shoots best in your gun. What gives you the best groups? Then go from there. As far as bullet "consistency" goes, Hornady interlock is hard to beat. Sierra Gamekings are great, and I have had tremendous luck with Winchester Power-points. They shoot well in my gun too.If you hunt large northern whitetails, and are looking for a little "more" in the construction department, the Federal Fusion line is great. And they wont break the bank at around $20.00 a box. The end result with any of the choices will result in a dead deer, but figuring out which one to choose, is half the fun....happy shooting!

I am a .270 lover, and user. I noticed you mentioned NON-PREMIUM BULLETS."NOT TRIPLE SHOCKS GUYS!!" One of the TOUGHEST "non-premium" bullets i have found is the new Fusion line from Federal. Also EXTREMELY ACCURATE in my Remington Model 721 in .270 win. I believe bullets are availiable now, and if you don't reload, a box of cartridges will run you about $20.00 -$25.00 from Cabelas. They are a bonded bullet at a working man's price....good luck

For the money, Corelokts are hard to beat.

Hornady Interlocks, corelocts, or Sierras which ever shoots best.

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Originally posted by deerhunter721:
I am a .270 lover, and user. I noticed you mentioned NON-PREMIUM BULLETS."NOT TRIPLE SHOCKS GUYS!!" One of the TOUGHEST "non-premium" bullets i have found is the new Fusion line from Federal. Also EXTREMELY ACCURATE in my Remington Model 721 in .270 win. I believe bullets are availiable now, and if you don't reload, a box of cartridges will run you about $20.00 -$25.00 from Cabelas. They are a bonded bullet at a working man's price....good luck

Has anyone seen loose Fusion bullets offered anywhere yet? I loved the Fusion ammo and it was ~0.5MOA out of my Vanguard sporter, but now that I handload I've switched to Hornady 150gr SP's. I get the same accuracy level with them as I did with the factory Fusion ammo, but obviously they lack the bonded core.

I think they recently came out with just the bullets for reloading. You might look on Cabela's website.

I looked, and I guess I was wrong. Maybe I heard that they might make them.lol The fusion only seems to come in factory loaded cartridges. Oh, and one more thing, I have seen a big popularity in the Berger VLD bullets. HSM (Hunting Shack Munitions) now have the extended range ammo with the Berger bullets. Cabelas should have them by next fall. But if I were going to reload a non-premium bullet, i'd go with the Hornady also. Their standards of consistency are higher than most.

Decided to try nosler solid bases first then speers and hornadys. Whichever shoots the best will be the first I'll try out. The noslers gave me good penetration without being to much in factory loads, so I'll handload them and see what happens. Thanks fellas

I like the Winchester Power Points.

Speer are kakk, Hornadays work nicely if loaded moderately.

Accubond.

The Internal ballistics of the Nosler Ballistic Tip
The External ballistics of the Nosler Ballistic Tip
The Terminal Ballistics of the Nosler Partition

The Price of only a couple dollars more per/50 over the Ballistic tip.



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I sight in a lot of rifles for folks every year before deer season. The best factory load for the money as far as performance and price is the Federal Fusion by far. I have never seen a gun that did not shoot it well. Performance on game is all you can ask. I have found that the 140 BTHP Sierra Game King to be a good accurate hunting bullet. It is harder than ballistic tips and shoots as good or better. It will exit on broadside shots with a big exit hole. It will break bone and penetrate far enough on deer if a shoulder or raking shot is made. The BTHP game king is not to hard for deer is pushed over 2900fps. I have found it is the best deer bullet for the money for me in a 270

Toughest non-premium for 270 = Rem's 150 RN CoreLokt!

Great on Hogs, but not too tough for deer!

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Originally posted by Farflung:
My family has gone to sierras for deer...

I find it funny that people will spend hundreds dollars on supplies and equipment not to mention tags, and then complain about buying a bullet that costs $0.70 to reload (VS. a $0.20 bullet).

Just how many shots are you going to get in one season? 10?
And how much are you going to spend on FUEL.

I did this math 10 years ago. That's when I started buying premium bullets.
Barnes TSX Bullets are my bullet of choice now.
I figured it was just about the cheapest insurance I could get.

Why would you take a chance with a cheap bullet for less than $10 a season?

I like 130gr bullets in the 270 if they are accurate in that particular rifle.If not,what ever grain bullet shoots best.I have always been partial to sierra gks,also nosler BTS.
As far as that gaping hole goes,you dont have alot of control over that.The shot a deer presents you with may be quartering away or towards you or ANY bad angle possible.Lots of ribs plus a shoulder.BIG HOLE!

+1 On the 130g Nosler Partitions. They open up fast at short or long range and usually blow all the way through.

Chuck

Speer 170 gr rn. have 75, $25 shipped to lower 48. Also .243 105rn speer and os 115 .243 barnes. send pm if interested.

The Barnes TSX works great in my .270 Win and my .257 Weatherby. Ive used the 130 in the .270 for blacktail, mule deer and hogs, complete penetration, even at not-so-good angles. The 100 in the .257 is like a "death ray" on these California blacktails, and both bullets shoot 5 (not 3) shots under an inch at 100 yards. Ive used Sierra, Hornady and Nosler particians in the past, but NOT anymore!!!

I gotta go with those who picked the Remington Core-Lokt bullets. As a family they seem pretty reliable. As long as the weight is right for the game and distance to target, they rarely fail. When I was young I found out that a 165 grain out of a .30-06 isn't the best choive for elk at 30 yards! But it did work.

In my experience they're also pretty accurate. Shoot they probably have taken more game in this country then any other.

I finally got my rifle back from the gunsmith, My first try with the Nosler solid bases was "ok". I have also tried Sierra gamekings they did better on the first try. I have quite a few different brands to try so we'll see. I would like to try some corelokts and some power points at some time too.

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Originally posted by HUNTS:
I like the Winchester Power Points.

+1

In a non-magnum, the Power Point is about as inexpensive as you'll find, very accurate and gives good expansion.

Another vote for the Speer Grand Slam in magnum rounds. No gaping holes..........just dead critters.

Jack O'Connor was right. A 130 gr. bullet is plenty. I use 59.8 gr. H4831 SC under the Hornady Interlock.

Premium bullets for anything less than Wapiti
put me off just as do bullets that are too frangible. I tend to agree with Joyce Hornady though. If a bullet passes on through, it wastes terminal energy. I'm just not one of the put it all the way through guys. Blood trails are not needed
when the bullet does its job! And I'm assuming the rifleman did his?!!!!

I've never needed more for any deer from Idaho to Pennsylvania.. Bigger game gets either my 30-06 or .338-06 A.I.! Stuff that needs more than that, I just don't hunt.

For deer, if you want a cheap accurate bullet that will expand and still hold together with no issues, I'd buy the 130g Rem PSP Corelokts. You can buy them by the 100 for about $21 or by the 500 or 1000 bulk if you want.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewP...uctNumber=1601151225

I've never seen a non-premium bullet that performs any better on deer sized game.

Chuck

I bought a winchester model 70 270 second hand about 15 years ago. When I finally was able to get a scope for it and mounted it was Sunday in a small town. Only place open was Walmart, and all they had was Remington 150 grain round nose corelock ammo.

Shot like a dream with that ammo and it is all I have ever used in it. Where I hunt 150 yards is a long shot, so the round nose is not an issue. The bullets will go all the way through a whitetail and leave a 3/4 inch exit hole. Bam-flop every time so far. I know this is not what a 270 was designed for but it works for me. I think winchester loads a 150 grain power point that is pointed. I don't handload the 270, but a friend of mine does and likes the accubond.

Thought I'd resurrect an old but good thread...

There probably isn't anything new to be said, except perhaps for the Federal Fusion; maybe the Winchester bonded core version too (don't remember its name).

Here's the pills I've prescribed for my .270

130 gr. Ballistic Tip - big holes!
130 gr. Scirroco - good terminal effects w/exits but couldn't get it to shoot very well.
130 gr. Core-lokt - can't ever complain.
140 gr. Ultra Core-lokt - THS a medium whitetail @ 20 yards. Never found bullet, but the chest cavity was totally awash in blood.
140 gr. Accubond - seems like the cat's meow for deer
140 gr. Federal Trophy Bonded (old tip style); super accurate but WAAAY too hard.
150 gr. A-Frame - broke both shoulders & spine of moose at 240 yards - found under hide on off-side. Probably too much for deer.
150 gr. Partitions...I'll tell you later this year!

friar

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Originally posted by Farflung:
My family has gone to sierras for deer...

I find it funny that people will spend hundreds dollars on supplies and equipment not to mention tags, and then complain about buying a bullet that costs $0.70 to reload (VS. a $0.20 bullet).

Just how many shots are you going to get in one season? 10?
And how much are you going to spend on FUEL.

I did this math 10 years ago. That's when I started buying premium bullets.
Barnes TSX Bullets are my bullet of choice now.
I figured it was just about the cheapest insurance I could get.

Why would you take a chance with a cheap bullet for less than $10 a season?

no, you started reading that hyperbole when it became prevalant about 20 years ago in hunting mags. You heard it so much that you eventually thought it was an original idea.

150 gr RN, if you can find them .. load them to 2900fps and it will just plain work...

i like hornady SST in mine.. but anything will work fine for deer.

140 gr Hornady SST or Sierra Gameking. They just plain work. Have never lost a deer and they are all large mature bucks from Northern Sask. They have very large bodies and weigh anywhere from 250 to 350 lbs. Cheers.

I moved back to upstate NY in 2007, I've used a different rifle each year during the big game season. All shots from a solid rest from 120-130 yds. All one shot kills, all but one animal dropped in tracks, one ran 30 yds.

Here are results:
2007 6 point 180gr Corelokt RN RP factory load 30/06
2008 6 point 100gr Sierra Prohunter hand load 25/06
2009 black bear 130 gr Sierra Prohunter hand load 270WSM
2010 skunked (passed up a 6 pt)
2011 6 point 150 gr Nosler solid base hand load 7x57


I don't think bullet choice is critical for deer or black bear, just put the bullet in the right spot.

130g Rem CoreLokt Pointed Soft Point. My son got his cow elk with one and it performed great, opens up fine on deer too. Best news is you can get them in bulk from Midway