Well, I've read that Wal-Mart's selling Vanguards in .300 Weatherby Magnum for $299.

The neighbors are gonna hear you shoot, anyway.

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Originally posted by Sabot:
CZ Carbine in 7.62X39 with Winchester soft points. Just about perfect.

Just about, small case, fast burning powder, and slippery bullets that expand at low velocities. You won't even need a long barrel, 22" will do fine.

The Whisper cartridges are out there, but I'd just chamber the 7.62x39 with 150 gr Scirocco bullets. Load them with 21-22 gr of H110, A2400, AR2205 etc. to a velocity around 2200 fps. This should get you to +- 3" at 220 yards and 1800 fps which is plenty fast enough for the Scirocco to expand well. The volume ratio(barrel/case) is something crazy like 17.5/1. The normally effecient .308 Win is around 9/1 in the same barrel length.

I researched all this a while back when I was looking for the perfect carbine cartridge. Personally I'd use the 30/44 Hunter Benchrest case which would equal the 300 Savage for a little better trajectory but if 150-200 yds is all you need then why go bigger. If you have a standard bolt head or you want to go the super accurate route you can go 30BR (blown out Lapua 7mmBR brass) and gain a couple hundred fps.