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what is the American alternative to 6.5x55?
*cheap ammo and rifles
*you can buy ammo everywhere
*low recoil
*accurate
*works well on any type of game(a bit overkill on the smallest game, an little bit underpowered for the biggest)
in short terms, a plain, boring cartridge that just does everything well.

30-06, 270, 243

thanks a lot, you guys have really been helpful.

i think i will go for a .22 centerfire, a .300 Wby and a .25/6.5mm/.270 of some sort.

Well, you can buy .30/30 and .30/06 ammo anywhere that you can find ammo. It's really nice having a .30/06 for a spare on your trips, even if it's not your go-to rifle.

The most common calibers are .223, .243, 270, .30/30, .308, .30/06 and 7mm Remington Magnum. The 7mm Rem Mag is easily the most common magnum caliber, with the .300 Win Mag a distant second.

I agree that a .22 RF is a must have, but if we are talking 3 centerfire rifles, I'd probably get a .223 and a .25/06 to go with your .300 Weatherby.

All that said, I think that everyone who shoots should own a .22, a .30/06 and a 12 ga shotgun.

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Originally posted by Steffen-9.3:

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But if you're moving to the US to become a permanent resident or a citizen then just buy more guns.

that was exactly my plan, the 3 rifles was what i NEEDED to hunt there.

i have a little wishlist for what to buy when i get there.
2x .44 Mag
.240 Wby
.257 Wby
.270 Wby
.416 Wby
.358 Win
6.5x55
9.3x62
.375 H&H Mag
and a wildcat 9.3mm-378Wby

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From a Western U.S. perspective. You gotta have a .270 win.

does it have to be a winchester? can't it be a Weatherby?

You've got it basically covered there....

257 Wby, your 300 Wby, and a 338-378 Wby... I guess either a 378 or 416 Wby if you feel the need for a big bore instead of a hot 338 ...

Ken....

a .243 will handle from 55 to 100 grains
a .30-06 will handle from 110 to 200 grains and
a .35 Whelen will handle from 200 and up!

You've covered everything from prairie dogs to the largest bears on the continent!

it seems like i won't be able to move to America after all.
so i guess i have to settle with a battery like this:

guns for hunting purposes:
.22 Hornet
.22-250 Rem
.270 Wby Mag
.340 Wby Mag
20ga/7x57R combination gun
2x 12ga shotguns

guns for other purposes:
.22 LR
.223 Rem
6.5x55
9x19
.44 Mag



but maybe if i'd married Ed Weatherby's daughter, it would be alot easier.

but thanks anyway for your suggestions.

vapo,

you need to say it like this:

a .243 will handle 1"-2" long bullets
a .30-06 will handle 2.5" -3" long bullets
a .35 Whelen will handle 3.5" -4" long bullets

As premium a Kimber 22 rimfire as you can stand and a Kimber 84M, in 22/250 if you want to shoot varmints (or deer in Texas), or 260 if you want a light rifle for big game.

You need an AR-15 in 5.56mm NATO, and a FAL in 7.62 NATO and you're ready to Rock&Roll

Well, seems we have recommended everything but only a few answered your question. You have a 30 cal, and possibly a .22 long rifle. If you have a 6.5x55, since your a reloader, keep it. Then all you would need to add is the .223 and you've got it covered. Everything else would be because you want it!!! Good Luck.

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Hope you have a chance to make it to the USA someday.

me too, but it seems easier to control the weather than getting a "green card".
so i'll move a bit more south in my country to access more big-game hunting.
and we have really cheap small-game hunting.

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Well, seems we have recommended everything but only a few answered your question.

it's so easy to be carried away, i have done so myself many times.

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If you have a 6.5x55, since your a reloader, keep it. Then all you would need to add is the .223 and you've got it covered. Everything else would be because you want it!!! Good Luck.

i don't have a 6.5x55 yet, i find it to be a very boring cartridge, but every scandinavian should have one.
frankly, i don't need more than one gun.
if i haven't got rid of my mauser kar98k in .30-06, i could hunt most of the world with it.

Looking at the mans list, he likes Weatherbys, so add the 240 weatherby and the 6.5x55

Steffen, just change your last name to Sanchez, Torres, etc. and come on through the Southern virtual border. They stop you, just tell them that you don't need no steeking green card. Just kidding of course. We'll see 10,000 illegals comes across the border to every one of the law-abiding immigrants such as yourself. Pathetic, isn't it?

25-06 for lighter game and your .300 and your set.

223, ammo is cheap and everywhere.
25-06 Load 100 or 120 grain and you have hog, deer, and antelope.
300Wby Mag for everything else.
Get into handloadinfg and have some fun!!!

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Steffen, just change your last name to Sanchez, Torres, etc. and come on through the Southern virtual border. They stop you, just tell them that you don't need no steeking green card. Just kidding of course. We'll see 10,000 illegals comes across the border to every one of the law-abiding immigrants such as yourself. Pathetic, isn't it?

that's life.

i have a good life and i love my country, it's just the gun law that's frustrating.

the ban on .50BMG, AP-bullets, MP-bullets, incendiary-bullets, it's ok, i can put up with that.
but when they tell me i can't have an '06 cause it's to similar to what i already got(.300 Wby), that just pisses me off.

rapists, childmolesters, violent people and God knows what are walking out in public, cause they have to wait often up to a year or two on available prison-cells.
but if i got that '06, hell would probably break loose.

i wish they took their forms and the "nowone should be allowed to own more then one firearm of a specific type, without a sound reason" and shove it up their as**s...but what could a honest and law-obeiding young man do

sorry to bother you with our gun-politics.



but anyway...i was thinking of a 4 week vacation in the US to visit the shot show, sail on the Mississippi river, and maybe if i were lucky, to be at a Springsteen-consert or to see Willie Nelson live(if he's still touring).
+alot of other stuff.

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Originally posted by Steffen-9.3:
i'm hoping to move to USA within 3-4years, so i will have this in mind when i sell some of my rifles, and buy some new.

i have a .300 Wby Mag i really love, so this one stays.

so which 2 cartridges should i choose to be prepared for all kind of hunting in the USA(not Alaska), in addition to the .300 Wby Mag?

(sorry to bother you with yet another x-gun battery tread)

If you have a nice Norwegian Krag, bring it. The 6.5X55 is a great cartridge for almost everything in the lower 48 states.

Anything you might hesitate to tackle with the 6.5, that .300 WM will more than handle, including anything you might go after in Canada or Alaska as well.

IF you are also a varmont shooter, a .22/250 or a .223 will also be useful.

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Posted by Steffen-9.3:
i don't have a 6.5x55 yet, i find it to be a very boring cartridge, but every scandinavian should have one.
frankly, i don't need more than one gun.
if i haven't got rid of my mauser kar98k in .30-06, i could hunt most of the world with it.

I've always been wanting a 6.5X55 in my collection as well as a 10-20 other calibers. I don't think any of us posting on this forum need more than one gun, we just want more than one. Welcome to the club, and good luck on your move to the U.S.

BTW once you are here you will not be happy with just three calibers.

I would say a 22 rimfire and a 223/22-250. That should cover it all.

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
Seafire, thanks for mention the one caliber that was missing from the discussion! Can't forget the .338 win mag!

Thanks!

you know when I get compliments etc, and most of the opinions that I see posted from Virginia... it is still so evident to me of my Virginia roots...
Even tho I left there in 1970 when I graduated High School..it seems you take the kid out of Virginia, but you can't take the Virginian out of the kid.....

Thanks Whitworth... I just beat ya too it is all...



you know, when I first read this thread, I didn't catch the starters, 300 Weatherby ownership.... I am not a 300 Weatherby fan.. However, with the 338 Win Mag and 250 grain Bullets, and the 300 Weatherby with a 220 grain bullet.... there sure isn't much on 2 or 4 feet in North America or South America, that you can't quickly dispatch with either round...

Really, with a 22 Long Rifle, a 300 Weatherby and a 223... I think you have North America pretty much covered...

wouldn't be my choices necessarily.. at least not the Weatherby.. but it sure cancels out the need for the others from 223 on up...for edible game..

And what is the American equivalent of the 6.5 x 55... ( academically the 30/06).. but for straight performance.. the 6.5 x 55 works just as well here, as it does anywhere in Scandanavia... and truth be known, I tote one of those a lot more often than I tote my 06's...

but I'd still never be without an 06.. that is down right unAmerican to consider yourself a Rifleman and hunter and not own an 06.. or 30/30 for that matter!!! That would be like being British, Australian, New Zealander, or Canuck.. and not owning a 303!

.22-250
.280 Rem.
.338 Win. Mag.

A .22 rimfire, the 300 you want to keep, .375 H&H, and a remington 870 12ga. There your set.

Like Dempsey said, make it All-American, like Mom & Apple Pie:

your 300 Weatherby;

a Jack .270 Win O'Conner

round it out with a .22-250

friar

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to be at a Springsteen-consert or to see Willie Nelson live(if he's still touring).

You mean IF Willie Nelson is still ALIVE!!

I'm a big Willie fan too!

300 Weatherby
6.5x55 or .260 Rem
22-250

Welcome to the States!

If you keep the 300, I'd add a 22LR and a 12 gauge shotgun.

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Originally posted by Steffen-9.3:

i was thinking of Texas,
i currently have:
.22 LR - i'll sell this one, i don't use it anyway.
.222 Rem - i'll sell this one, i'm tired of the rifle.
.300 Wby Mag - i'll keep this one
12 gauge 3" o/u - i'll keep this one

The .300 is excellent for south and west Texas where long shots to 400 meters are a possibly.

You may wish to take a look at a carbine in .308/7mm-08/ 7mmx57/.358 Win for hunting the Piney woods area and swamp areas of East Texas. A .45-70 lever rifle would work well here too.

A bolt action in .22-250 for strictly four legged varmints or a Semi Auto in .223 for both four and two legged varmints

Keep your 22LR and 222. Sell the 300WBY get a light wieght 260 or 7-08 and either a 35Whelen or a 338-06. Kill everything up to the big bears

Since you are going to keep the .300 Weatherby, you have your long distance rifle. Therefore I would go with a .35 Whelen for the big stuff and a .270 for the smaller animals.

.22 long rifle -- For small game and because you can never have too much cheap practice.

.270 Win. -- For anything you don't need the 300 Win. mag for.

You wont believe this but you can shoot 110 gr 307 dia bullets out of a 300 weatherby if you reload. the guy at Sierra ( they were just surplus bullets) said if I saw a vapor trail I would know what happened to the bullet. Cant recall the powder load but it was pushing max and they shot pretty well within 2 inches at 100 yds. This might be a good varmint load they also shoot 130s good . My second choice would be a 3006 and third would be a 223

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Originally posted by Steffen-9.3:

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Steffen, just change your last name to Sanchez, Torres, etc. and come on through the Southern virtual border. They stop you, just tell them that you don't need no steeking green card. Just kidding of course. We'll see 10,000 illegals comes across the border to every one of the law-abiding immigrants such as yourself. Pathetic, isn't it?

that's life.

i have a good life and i love my country, it's just the gun law that's frustrating.

the ban on .50BMG, AP-bullets, MP-bullets, incendiary-bullets, it's ok, i can put up with that.
but when they tell me i can't have an '06 cause it's to similar to what i already got(.300 Wby), that just pisses me off.

rapists, childmolesters, violent people and God knows what are walking out in public, cause they have to wait often up to a year or two on available prison-cells.
but if i got that '06, hell would probably break loose.

i wish they took their forms and the "nowone should be allowed to own more then one firearm of a specific type, without a sound reason" and shove it up their as**s...but what could a honest and law-obeiding young man do

sorry to bother you with our gun-politics.



but anyway...i was thinking of a 4 week vacation in the US to visit the shot show, sail on the Mississippi river, and maybe if i were lucky, to be at a Springsteen-consert or to see Willie Nelson live(if he's still touring).
+alot of other stuff.

good on ya steffen!

rights are not given by the govt but should be protected by the govt

tell the norge govt they cant have their jobs...there is already one like it in china!

my choice, an 35 caliber for the abillity to use pistol bullets, and for the rest, using some of RIP`s gun inventory so i will save a ton of money...




frankly i`m getting tired of Norway also, my gun office is nice, but there is many that is way worse. and the grip is getting tighter every year. Next is a "Weapon wardrobe" of 8 guns, but that isnt 8 true big bores. for instance. S if something special happens, i`m open for moving abroad to a good country with a good gun law.

I have only three centerfires. 22-.250, 243, and 270. I guess, by your comments collectively, I made three good choices.

Keep your 22LR for plinking
Keep your 300 for hunting
get a 30-30 because everyone should have one.

Hard choices but my vote is for the
270 Win.
22-250

Just go straight Roy and add the 257 and the 340 to your 300. In Texas ya gotta have at least one BIG BORE and the 340 will impress them at the range even if ya don't NEED it to hunt the lower 48!

1-223 or 22-250
2-7mm-08 or 30-06
3-300WM or 338

.223
6.5x55
375 H&H

The 30-06 has taken all of the big game in north america.One rifle that's done it all and it's still doing it with bullet weights from 110 grains to 250 grains!I have several 06's,300wm,243 & a sw460mag single shot rifle.