Chuck,

I sold that rifle to one of the best friends I've ever had. He's just a great guy, and he's done me so many solids over the years that I'll never be able to repay him sufficiently. So I decided to pay him back by selling him something in sort of a "sacrificial" manner. He's always loved that rifle, but he'd never accept it if I just gave it to him, which I've been tempted to do before. So I sold it to him at a really fair price, with the understanding that he sell it back to me at the same price if he ever wants to part with it.

We both got the best end of that deal, in a way.......

AD

Allen,
I'm not buying into the selfless sacrifice bit, because most certainly you're already planning its replacement

And since when is there such a thing as a "dream rifle", it is more properly 'dream rifles'.

Skinner, you're really right!

I haven't used that Pearce 300 since 2000, when I replaced it with my current 300 Win. Mag. from Echols. I won't be selling the later, ever!

AD

Savage 99, That is a sweet looking rifle. The nice thing about getting your dream rifles early are all the dreams you have reliving the moments spent with the rifle. Congrats.

Allen, it sounds like it shouldn't be any other way.

Chuck

Savage99, that's the prettiest original M70 I've ever seen.

Very nice wood on the M70!

My dream rifle...an old English double if I can pick one and not have to build it from scratch.

Otherwise I might try talking my gunsmith in to building me a double in .450 No 2. It would be his first, and maybe only, double so it would be very original.

I've shot and shouldered my dream rifle many times when my Grandpa was alive, shortly after he died my uncle sold it.

It's a Winchester pre 64 M70 .300 H&H.

-Ron

Man I am sory to hear that, me thinks that someday you should get yourself another one. It won't be your G-Dads but...

Just a thought

MD

The M-70 shown by Savage has one of the two nicest stocks I have ever seen on a P-64, the other is on my original .338, which is my "dream rifle" of the 100 or so I have owned. I have quite a few very choice rifles now, if you are into classics, but IF I were to go for a practical dream rifle, it would be a "Legend" in .338 Win. with te custom bases, Burgess rings and Iron sights like those on Allen's .375. That would be as close to perfect for a B.C. hunting/working rifle as one could get, IMO.

Allen: What barrel length did you order for your 300 H&H? I suspect 24" jorge

Jorge, it'll be 24"!

I'm allergic to longer barrels

AD

My dream ( which I have) is a pre 64 Model 70 in .300H&H. The factory stack was redone by the gunsmith and fully bedded. He must have put 25 hand rubbed coats of finish on gun and recut the checkering cleaning up in some areas. The rifle has a 3x9 Leupold on it and shoots .750 groups with 180 grain bullets. Love it. Other favorite is a pre64 Model 70 in .270 in a Bell & Carlson stock with a 2x7 Leupold.

After reading too many Capstick books, I'd love to have a .470 N.E. double from H&H.

But after having it built for me, my favorite rifle by far has become my .338 Win on a '03A3 action with Wenig wood and topped by a Burris 3-9x Ballistic-plex scope.


It's the rifle on top.

Dream rifle would be a custom Model 70 in a custom made stock cut to my dimensions, chambered in .375 H&H, but I would never use it... So just give me the cash and let me loose!

1950 Mannlicher-Schoenauer rifle in 9.3x62 with scroll engraving. Weaver 3x post & crosshair scope in claw saddle mounts.

Kurt, that is a very, very cool rifle!

AD

Nothing else is close
Walther WA-2000
.300 WM Semi-auto



About 100 made, going for $35K right now

Allen,

quote:

It was a Model 70 Featherweight 270 that he bought (wholesale!) in Portland back in 1956, and he hunted with it exclusively for over forty years

Funny you mention this, my fisrt rifle given to me by my father when I was 8 was a 62-63 version of that same rifle. I carried it exclusively until it was stolen from me in my mid 20's. It was the rifle I cut my teeth on so to speak, and still factors into my likes and dislikes on rifles to this day. I truelly miss that old rifle and I hope the guy that stole it is is rotting in prison and protecting his ass from attacks every day, it still pisses me off 25 years later.

I have lost my enthusism for the 27 cal over the years, and I prefer 28 and 30 cal rifles now, but that 270 really was and is my gold standard in rifles. For a factory rifle it didn't get any better than that.

Well
A ZG-47 customised by Martini and Hagn in 8X68S or 9,3X64. Second, a magnum mauser from H&W in 416 Rigby


Cheers
/JOHAN

I have three of my dream rifles and a wife of 34 years. All have aged well. But thinking about it, I might like a double in 450-400. Just to make up for the two .458s I have sold. Packrattusnongratus

Here's mine. A custom Model 70 Built by Bill Leeper of Elko B.C.



Chuck

Johan's post is kinda neat because my buddy just left my house with my ZG-47 action which he is sending to Ralf on Monday, to have a 9.3x64 built. This same chap has now relieved me of my 1933 vintage Oberndorf "Postal" action, my last P-64 factory cut H&H action with Sunny Hill drop box and one of my ZGs AND my Leupy LPS scope, he just left me this old Mauser rifle.


For those who like this old stuff, it is a "Oschatz-Potsdam" rifle with a half octagon, half round barrel, gorgeous wood, claw mounts with scope, express sights, lever bottom metal, full rib, a bit of engraving and the metal/bore is fabulous while the wood has been superbly re-finished and has an ebony insert in the schnable foreend tip.

It is in 9.3x62 and shoots extremely well, I will have Bill build me a working 9.3x62 on a 21H with Argy 1909 bottom metal and Timney trigger I have and will use a Serengeti stock with schnable. Somehow I just can't put a synthetic stock on a 9.3x62! This old Mauser was made in 1927 and is a beautiful rifle.

Kutenay, I've sent you a PM.

Chuck

I just bought a VG-47 about a month ago. What a neat old gun. I plan on using it a little this fall. I bought originally for the action but, I don't think I can cut this one up.

The "dream rifle" may have to wait another year

Terry

Nice rifle TCI. It looks like new.

Here is one that' almost ready. It's a 22F in 8-57S with a 20.5" barrel. The scope is a Kahles 2-7.



At the moment the stock is too long for me but the next bridge to cross is to refinish it or not. Somebody said that thats honest hunting wear on it? Maybe I will get used to it.

In any case it's for woods hunting. The requirements are fit, reliablity and some power and of course I have to like the rifle.

The metal is perfect. The wood has only minor handling. I think it sat in somebody's closet the last 50yrs. The only down side is some dummy cut the stock for a recoil pad.

I like your 22F I've got a 21H. It had too much honest hunting wear on it so I refinished it. The original setup was long gone when I bought the gun so I took a little artistic licence with it. Turned out pretty nice. The LOP on mine is 14" now.


Terry

Most of the really fine older factory rifles had hard buttplates or were not drilled and tapped. Thus I welcome one that's nice but comfortable.

These 21/22/F's and H's let alone the ZG-47's are not at all common in the nations arsenal which has been the CT river valley and coast.

My current gumsmith is maybe 50 years old and he has a busy shop on our gold coast with two other guys there. He had never seen a Brno 22/21. He had the 22F for a while to put on some bases and each time that I was there he kept running his fingers over the action. He would put the rifle on his case and press down on the bolt body with his thumb with it open part way and wiggle the handle and whisper "this is a really nice action".

He wants $300 to refinish the stock. That would mean bleaching out the grime, filling the holes and returning it to like new. I started myself and I bleached out a small section on the grip and it looks better with a poly that contains stain. These are my dream rifles.

quote:

Originally posted by vapodog:
A pre-64 M-70 with exhibition english walnut, LW barrel in 6.5-06, talley swivels, Stock and metalwork by Ron Lampert (if we can ever find him and he's alive and well) and checkering by Carol at Ahlman's in Morristown.

Nothing personal Mr. Echols....it's just that I know these folks and I don't know you.

Vapodog

I spoke with Mr. Lampert by phone last fall. He was alive and well then. Said he was "semi-retired" but I could "bring a project up for him to look at" if I wanted to.



As for my answer to this question - G.33/40 Mauser all done up proper by Thomas Burgess with his rings, bottom metal, and bolt handle. Krieger barrel chambered in 7 x 57 and octogoned by none other than Mr. Stratton. Exhibition Bastogne (Fiddleback) Stock by either Bruce Russell or Customstox. 4 panel checkered bolt knob. Modest engraving using scoll and Bucks head by Scrollcutter, along with twin golden bands near the receiver and the muzzle. No iron sights. Leupy 1.75 X 6 Matte Black Duplex with Leupolds new custom service of my initials engraved on the scope.

No deer ever had a finer death than to be shot by such a rifle!!!

22WRF, Sounds nice!

Terry

quote:

Originally posted by TC1:
22WRF, Sounds nice!

Terry

Terry

I have the action and I have ordered the rings. Now lets hope the stock market comes back after the summer doldrums and away we go.

Thanks, Allen. It is sweet. A true hand-built production rifle, so to speak. My other rifles include the reconditioned 1938 Brno in 8x60s, and a 1946 Brno 22F in 7x64.

I have a 1947 22F in 8x60 that had an egg shaped chamber. It is at Griffin & Howe being rebarreled to 9.3x62, and getting a couple of square bridges soldered on (keeping the charger slot). It is of the 23.5" barrel variety, with a full length stock. I'll post pics when it is completed.

I already own mine. It's made "in house" from Rochingsche Eisen -und Stahlwerke Steel with very dense piece of Balkan(?) walnut. It's one of perhaps 50 pieces made in month of July 1993. No "gigolo steel canvas" or wood for me just a good piece of shooting iron.

Paolo,

Can you provide more details?

stainless 416 peep sights with oil finish desert ironwood stock....yummmmmmm. down boy!

I guess if I were going to hunt Africa a lot it would be a Double 470 or 500 and for a bolt action with the prettiest wood you can find.