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Well, I guess it all depends on what and where you hunt. In that case, more than likely we like guns that work for the game we hunt, and don't care very much for the rest of cartridges. In Alaska, where moose and bears are big, the .338WM is perhaps the most popular cartridge. However, I can't blame deer hunters down in the lower-48 for disliking the .300WM, .338WM, and the .375 H&H. They can do very well with much smaller cartridges. | |||
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Does anybody else really hate the 43 Spanish or is it just me? | |||
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This is a great thread! You don't have to be rational. I like all the belted mags & none of the alphabet mags. But my all time peeve is the 30-06. First, because It's kind of like feet - everbody has two. Second, I have always felt it to be the jack of all trades, but master of none. | |||
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Guys, While we have all had fun on this thread, we should start a postive thread on what we like. Rule should be what 1. your saving for 2. currently building 3. or going to purchase in the next 18 months. PS. still think the 30-30 and the 45-70 suck | |||
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The 270 win is alright for deer and deer sized game,but I hate it when its pushed as an awesome gun for moose,elk and bears.It seem that my favorite living author Craig Boddington is taking old 270 Jack Oconners role in this.It kills me when grown men cant shoot a rifle bigger than 270s.They can shoot a shotgun that kicks twice as much but if it kicks more than a 270 oh my God it kills them.I love the 338 win mag as the all around North Amercian game rifle .A friend of mine daughter shot a moose with a 243 this year.They shot it at 50 yards 5 times.It took about 45 mins to die and might have run away if they had not shot it in the head.I listened to a guy brag last year about letting his 10- year old son shoot a grizzley 6 times with a 243 last year.I asked thewm how big was the bear.He said are you kidding I aint tracking a wounded Griz with just a 243.The 243 and 270 are not moose or bear guns.I am for using enough gun for the game not loosing game for not using enough gun. | |||
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Well you asked "what great ones".....I like the great ones! It's the over-hyped, mediocre performers that suck! Nate | |||
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I like all my calibers (and that is a lot of them) except my .32 WSL. I cant hit anything with it (partially my fault) and it is too large for small animals and too small for larger animals. It just doesn't fit in the hunting scheme. "Big ears doesn't make you a good listener, but big feet will tell on you." - Mr. Bill Clinton | |||
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Each one of these Mule Deer were taken with a .270win, not one required more than a single shot. Their are another 30 or so That I've taken with that 270 or my son's, That's good enough for me. "Any society that will give up a little liberty to gain a little security deserve neither and will lose both." -Ben Franklin | |||
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I'm all for it. Go ahead and start it schromf. | |||
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The 308 Winchester.... If it cant be Grown it has to be Mined! Devoted member of Newmont mining company Underground Mine rescue team. Carlin East,Deep Star ,Leeville,Deep Post ,Chukar and now Exodus Where next? Pete Bajo to train newbies on long hole stoping and proper blasting techniques. Back to Exodus mine again learning teaching and operating autonomous loaders in the underground. Bringing everyday life to most individuals 8' at a time! | |||
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! the last time someone posted on this was oct 2005. you must of read a long way through the forums to find this one. looks like alot of people dont like the 243, to be fair..i hate it too. dont like the 270 either, hate it how people say how good it is! i mean come on there aint even any bullets for 270s! | |||
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I wasn't even a new member when this post orginally died, but I did read a lot of it and it is entertaining. I can shoot bigger calibers than the .270 Win, but I still like the .270 best out of all my calibers that I own. For me the calibers I've never been able to warm up to has been anything 7mm. I've owned a 7mmRM and .280 and I kept reaching for my .270 for everything including elk. While I wouldn't call it an awesome elk cartridge it is certinly adequate as one as long as the proper bullet is selected. The .270 and .30-06 have accounted for all of the elk I've ever shot. BTW the .375 Ruger is the largest caliber I shoot. | |||
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I'm not a fan of any magnums. I don't like extra recoil. I'm not sure why you would "Improve". This is just my opinion. ddj The best part of hunting and fishing was the thinking about going and the talking about it after you got back - Robert Ruark | |||
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And I'm not a fan of calibers that don't kick! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Diferent strokes for different folks. ddj The best part of hunting and fishing was the thinking about going and the talking about it after you got back - Robert Ruark | |||
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I like them all! I just like some better that others. The only easy day is yesterday! | |||
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Anything I can't get ammo for when I want to go shooting. I have owned a 338 Win for 40 years, killed everything it shot, usually one round, including brown bears. Gave it to my youngest boy. I'm not really looking for another one. Cartridges I will probably never own: 30-30 Win and 444 Marlin. | |||
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anything less than .22, and anything .257", .277", .358" | |||
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is reigning on this thread! Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Don't see the value in a .243. Prefer the 6mm Rem. Never been impressed by the performance of the 30-30. Prefer the .308 Norma Mag to the .300 Win Maq. Haven't figured out which makes more sense ... the .270 Win or .264 Win Mag. Have both, will make one into something else. .30 Carbine has always seemed a waste to me. Never wanted any of the big 22 calibers like the .220 Swift. However ... I doubt I'd turn down any freebee as they can be turned into something more interesting Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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Not strictly in this forum class, but .223 Rem. And in that vein, I just can't warm up to 22 LR, rimfire. I owned two AR-15's and a Rem. 700 PSS in .223 Rem. The later would shoot hen's eggs at 300 yds easy off a bench. Just not enough "poop" to keep me interested. Same with 22 cal. rimfire. I owned a Ruger Govt. Target MKII and a 10/22. I need to have the muzzle end up above my head after the shot . . . That's why I shoot. | |||
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I detest all the WSM's and RSAUM's, along with 7mm Rem Mag (get an '06). I don't like Weatherby's because of their exclusiveness. I don't like the .303 British, too anemic for it's size Absolutely hate all calibers below .22 useless all around. | |||
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Interesting three year old thread.....sometimes it's interesting to see what one posted three years ago...I must say that I've changed my mind a bit on a couple short action rounds and today I might actually rechamber a .308 to 300 RCM or 7mm WSM..... Other than that things haven't changed much.....I sure miss some of the posters we have lost like schromf and stubblejumper.....both good posters /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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FYI - If you own any of the calibers you hate, I'll "dispose" of them for you. If it goes boom, I'll shoot it. ________ "...And on the 8th day, God created beer so those crazy Canadians wouldn't take over the world..." | |||
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Well this is clearly for fun. Hated 270 because as a kid used neighbors fn supreme with its God awful safety. First rifle 06 rem 742 carbine that was the nastiest rifle that I have ever shot. Have a 243 wssm mod 70 stainless that is just a treat. mod 70 stainless 7 rem mag that shoots beyond belief. mod 70 stainless 375 hh thats a pussycat. 300 wsm hs precision that I can carry anywhere. Ruger no.1 in 22-250 that rusted when you looked at it and would bearly shoot. Loves or hates based on luck,memeories I have had with each. | |||
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Have never warmed up to the .243, the .338, 7-08, the 7 Rem Mag, .30-30, .308, really any of the .30's. Though I have a .30-06, that belonged to my grandfather, that I will only be separated from by death. Have always liked the .25's, and the .35's, that many here don't like. "Be kind and polite to everyone you meet. But have a plan on how to kill them." From an old Marine. | |||
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Thought I hated lot's of calibers for many years, until I shot of few of them for awhile. Then a couple of those hated became favorites. Example would be the 7-08. BUT I do hate anything .270! Oh, and the .222 Eichhorn Lynx! Hate that Lynx thing! | |||
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Wouldn't own any of the Ultra Mags, or short Mags, or RCMs. I'd say the 375 Duger falls into that category as well. Not much of a fan of the .20's or anything in 7mm or 8mm. Had a .270 and sold it. It did alright but nothing great. The Weatherby's don't do much for me either. For the most part I shoot: 22-250 6.5x55 although I'd just as easily get along with a .257 Roberts, .308 Winchester (mostly because of the platform it's on and it's one of the most forgiving ctg's to load for. .375 H&H shoots very well, pleasant to shoot, smoothest running gun I own, and rarely feel undergunned. Just to round things out a bit I will likely add a light .300 Winchester, and something the in the neighborhood of a .470 Capstick - .550 Express. Yes it's cocked, and it has bullets too!!! | |||
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I hear ya there what ever happened to those 2? I know this thread was OOOOLLLLDDDD but could not help myself as I am a 270 winchester lover. If it cant be Grown it has to be Mined! Devoted member of Newmont mining company Underground Mine rescue team. Carlin East,Deep Star ,Leeville,Deep Post ,Chukar and now Exodus Where next? Pete Bajo to train newbies on long hole stoping and proper blasting techniques. Back to Exodus mine again learning teaching and operating autonomous loaders in the underground. Bringing everyday life to most individuals 8' at a time! | |||
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for me it's the 243 win others expound apoun it's outstanding accuracy and performance. I just never saw it evident in any 243's I owned. All were sold or traded off rather rapidly ---------------------------------------- If you waste your time a talkin' to the people who don't listen To the things that you are sayin' who do you thinks gonna hear And if you should die explainin' how the thing they complain about Or the things they could be changing who do you thinks gonna care Waylon Jennings | |||
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Krochus, I do not like the .243 Win as well. Prone to the donut-effect. Bullet too light for my liking. There are much better cartridges for small to medium game such as the 7 x 57 mm - bullets can range from 130 grains to 175 grains, and so it is very flexible for long and short range work. Warrior | |||
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The formation of a "donut" is a ring of thicker brass inside the neck of the newly formed case and happens far more easily with the type of shoulders that we see on the .243 Win and 270 Win; ie a long sloping shoulder. It is particulary evident with PMP cases that are known for having thicker brass than most other brands. The donut appears when the neck-shoulder junction of the newly formed case ends up closer to the base than the parent cartridge. This donut must be removed or dangerous pressures will result due to the lack of clearance for the case neck to release the bullet. The effect is thus that the bullet get pinched. When reloading always check that the bullet can slip freely through the neck and into the case. The moment it does not, you know that a donut ring has formed. Warrior | |||
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Wow! What a thread I can't believe so many "hate" some of the calibers I like the best, but it just shows that variety is the spice of life. While I can't say I really "hate" any caliber, as I thought about it, I'm really not a big fan of the 7mm Rem Mag, but if someone were to give me one, I wouldn't turn them down. Red C. Everything I say is fully substantiated by my own opinion. | |||
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I guess I'll entertain this old thread too. I agree that "hate" is a very strong word, so I will basically write about the ones I LIKE...afterall, who gives a shit, it's a 3 year old thread anyway. I LOVE THE 270...it is hands down the very best medium bore rifle caliber out there, even though ballistically a 6.5mm and 7mm make better sense. It is my favorite caliber of all time. I also love the 300 RUM, 7mm Rem Mag, and 30.06. I like the 300 SAUM I have little experience with it but I'm confident I'll embrace the 6.5x284 very soon. I just received my newest build, a Sako 308. Love it. I can't think of any caliber I "hate." But there are many I have no use for. Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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30-06. nuf said | |||
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30-30 sucks and swallows... Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too! Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system. | |||
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I don't like the 7.62x39, never did, never will. Too many came too close too many times. Namibiahunter . | |||
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I never understood the issues with belted magnums. Now I have a 458WM, I will never get another belted magnum. I'm not at all impressed with the terms "Weatherby Magnum" and "Ackley Improved" I have not been impressed with any 6.5mm rifles. I don’t understand why people are in love with the 30-30. The 308 and 30-06 are better for true rifles. The 45LC and 44mag are better for lever actions. And a 7.62x39 is cheaper alternative. "Can't stand the .243 either. Its too big to be the ideal varmint rifle and too small for much else" .410 shotgun, I just generally dislike it. The 444marlin, come on, just get a 45-70 if you want a lever action. Then there is pretty much anything in .17. 30Cabine, not because of what it is/does, but because of what it could have been and never will be. I will concede the 45-120. Just get a 458WM or Lott or go bigger if needed. I will stand up for the 30-06. It is not that the cartridge is the end all be all round from the factory, but it can be hand loaded umpteen different ways to make it very flexible. CISSP, CISA, CRISC looking for a IT Security/Audit Manager spot | |||
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I have zero use for anything under 30 caliber and don't like the metrics. | |||
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I am not a fan of the 30-06! I think mainly because it IS such a good round, jack of all trades master of none really. Anything a 30-06 can do well, you can probably find another cartridge that can do it better IMO Also not the biggest fan of the 270, kind of the same reasons as the '06. But, I do have a .280 on the way lol I guess the same could be said for the 7RM. I would almost say I just don't favor the "standards"....but, I have a 300wby, a 9.3x62 being built, and the 280, so its not that I have anything against "classic" rounds. Other then the 300, which is a great round IMO, I'm not much on Weatherby cartridges. I have a 2nd 300wsm on the way (custom ultra light) and a 7wsm on lay away. And if its still there once I have picked up my other rifles, there is a 25wssm I have been eyeing on the used rack. In the end, I'm sure I'll get a 30-06 just to say I have one, but would probably end up rechambering to 30 Hawk lol. If you think every possible niche has been filled already, thank a wildcatter! | |||
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