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Originally posted by sheephunterab:

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Originally posted by 500N:
I think The Myth: Lightweight rifles aren’t accurate was put to rest by the Tikka T3 Lite
which produces very good accuracy.

Good luck on the project.

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The T3 is hardly a lightweight in the world of mountain rifles . I've seen rifles over a pound less built for the mountains. While light-weight rifles certainly can be accurate, few people shoot extremely lightweight rifles well....myself included. I've built several dedicated mountain rifles and all fell between 5lbs 12 oz and 6 lbs 12oz . That seems to be as light as I can go and still shoot them well. The quest for the perfect mountain rifle is a lot more than the quest for the lightest rifle!

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Originally posted by Frostbit:


I presume the 5lbs 12 oz and 6 lbs 12oz included scope. My Tikka T3 Superlite (flutter barrel version) ended up 6 lb. 14 oz. with scope.

Cheers
Jim

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Originally posted by sheephunterab:

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Originally posted by Frostbit:


I presume the 5lbs 12 oz and 6 lbs 12oz included scope. My Tikka T3 Superlite (flutter barrel version) ended up 6 lb. 14 oz. with scope.

Cheers
Jim

No those are bare rifle weights...add another pound for scope. In fairness the 6lb 12oz one is chambered in 338WM. My point was that your T3 is not a super lightweight in the realm of mountain rifles...actually in the middle somewhere...right where I believe they should be!

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OK, I misunderstood. Although I have spend gobs of money on a pair of double rifles,and a somewhat collectible .416 Rigby, the Tikka Superlite allowed me to cobble together a mountain rifle that was accurate, reliable, and downright cheap compared to other rifles sold as "mountain rifles".

Funny thing is, once Joyce used it to fill her Moose tag two years ago all I hear from her now is how much more enjoyable it was to carry that Tikka than her beloved Ruger 7 x 57. She has no issue with shooting a 7mmRemMag in a sub 7 pound platform.

Cheers
Jim

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Originally posted by ted thorn:
Not an ultra light but my latest project, a Kimber Montana in 280AI.....

She tips the scale just 2oz shy of 7 pounds with 4 rounds of 162 grn ELDX stuffed in the box

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Originally posted by Frostbit:
Mine

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Originally posted by Fourtyonesix:
I like how you think angus!! My 416 ruger is 5lb 11oz with a peep. What a joy to just hold in my hands!!

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Originally posted by AKsheephunter:

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Originally posted by Frostbit:
Mine

dang it, Jim... did you borrow my tent and not tell me......

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Originally posted by Angus Morrison:
Bit of a lightweight gun nut, stems from mountain goats being the bulk of my living and aviation for the rest of the year. Light is everything, I'm a fit 30 something mountain guide but every ounce shaved spells more opportunity and a better, more enjoyable experience no matter how good one's legs.

Have built, used, or am building (bare weights),

-Sub 4 lb Hagn Mini 5.6x50 Magnum (ongoing)
-Full Titanium Satterlee M98 .375 2 1/4 8 5.75 lbs
-Kimber Mountain Ascent .308 4.8 lbs
-Kimber Adirondack .308 4.8 lbs
-Kimber Mountain Ascent .280AI 5.65 lbs
-Sako Carbonlight .308 5.2 lbs

I don't have a favourite, they all offer something, the Kimbers are the best value but I did have fees issues on my Adirondack, since resolved. I'm building the Hagn to go absolute bare minimum on a mountain gun to see what I think of it, if it can be 3 1/2lbs before scope I'll be smitten. Good chance I may do good peep sights to save more weight.

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Originally posted by Fourtyonesix:
Those single pole spine tents get a bit sloppy in the wind.

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Originally posted by FFemtRN5287:

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Originally posted by Angus Morrison:
Bit of a lightweight gun nut, stems from mountain goats being the bulk of my living and aviation for the rest of the year. Light is everything, I'm a fit 30 something mountain guide but every ounce shaved spells more opportunity and a better, more enjoyable experience no matter how good one's legs.

Have built, used, or am building (bare weights),

-Sub 4 lb Hagn Mini 5.6x50 Magnum (ongoing)
-Full Titanium Satterlee M98 .375 2 1/4 8 5.75 lbs
-Kimber Mountain Ascent .308 4.8 lbs
-Kimber Adirondack .308 4.8 lbs
-Kimber Mountain Ascent .280AI 5.65 lbs
-Sako Carbonlight .308 5.2 lbs

I don't have a favourite, they all offer something, the Kimbers are the best value but I did have fees issues on my Adirondack, since resolved. I'm building the Hagn to go absolute bare minimum on a mountain gun to see what I think of it, if it can be 3 1/2lbs before scope I'll be smitten. Good chance I may do good peep sights to save more weight.

Angus, I'd love to see and hear a bit more about that 375 if you'd be so kind!

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Originally posted by Fourtyonesix:
I like how you think angus!! My 416 ruger is 5lb 11oz with a peep. What a joy to just hold in my hands!! Light weight rifles are where it's at. Guys who like them heavy usually haven't used a light one much!
Ideal mtn rifle for me would be a 300 win, around 5lb. CDs turret system from
Leupold. Nothing in the mtns on planet earth is that bulletproof. I'd be happy with that set up.

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Originally posted by Angus Morrison:

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Originally posted by FFemtRN5287:

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Originally posted by Angus Morrison:
Bit of a lightweight gun nut, stems from mountain goats being the bulk of my living and aviation for the rest of the year. Light is everything, I'm a fit 30 something mountain guide but every ounce shaved spells more opportunity and a better, more enjoyable experience no matter how good one's legs.

Have built, used, or am building (bare weights),

-Sub 4 lb Hagn Mini 5.6x50 Magnum (ongoing)
-Full Titanium Satterlee M98 .375 2 1/4 8 5.75 lbs
-Kimber Mountain Ascent .308 4.8 lbs
-Kimber Adirondack .308 4.8 lbs
-Kimber Mountain Ascent .280AI 5.65 lbs
-Sako Carbonlight .308 5.2 lbs

I don't have a favourite, they all offer something, the Kimbers are the best value but I did have fees issues on my Adirondack, since resolved. I'm building the Hagn to go absolute bare minimum on a mountain gun to see what I think of it, if it can be 3 1/2lbs before scope I'll be smitten. Good chance I may do good peep sights to save more weight.

Angus, I'd love to see and hear a bit more about that 375 if you'd be so kind!

Mr Satterlee certainly looks as though he is capable of building a proper "carrying" rifle.
Angus that .375 of your is what I would label the absolute "duck's nuts" ! Outstanding.
One of my mates here in Aus has had Stuart build him a couple of similar rifles and they are all outstanding in terms of quality in finish and in meeting requirements.
I only wish I could afford one.

Regarding the C.E.B's I have been fortunate to be in the position to have been present during the trial and testing period and have been present during the taking of over 100 buffalo (Asiatics) with the Raptors in addition to over 30 that I have taken with my own rifles with the same bullet.
I am confident you wont be disappointed.

Best regards.

Paul.

For sure Brandon, I approached Stuart (Satterlee) to make me a full titanium M98 action, and almost everything is titanium not just the receiver like most titanium commercial models. When I first approached him about my action I was hunting for myself and guiding casually, and envisioned an ultralight and all weather but full featured M98 7x57.

Then a couple years ago I bought my own operation that focuses on coastal Grizzly / Browns, I'd hunted them before but it'd be a once in two or three years deal. Suddenly it was full time Grizzly hunting plus many more non-bear hunts in Grizzly territory, I'm a hundred miles south of Alaska on the BC North Coast for reference, lots of bears and lots of run in fun. Asked Stuart to change me to a .375 2 1/4 Rimless Nitro Express, British for 9.5x57MS and a "Kimber contour" stainless .375 barrel in a synthetic stock.

This is her with the Recknagel sights dummied on, I decided to change to NECGs with a fibre optic front and am putting those on now. Overall extremely happy with it, Stuart's an artist. The bolt is black because it's coated, can't run titanium on titanium as it galls.

It's actually really mild on the shoulder, think I'm settling on the 235gr CEB Raptor.