Has anyone tried Ranger Rick's super-long nosed 610 gr bullets made for the BFR(too long for S&W 500)? How do they shoot, penetrate,etc...?

I have not tried the 610 gr. but I shot the 575 and 700 gr. in my BFR 500 Mag with very good results.

Yeah, I've shot the 700 grainers too. They are awesome! I show them to people and they can't believe I'm shooting them out of a revolver....until they see the revolvers that is( 8" BFR & 4" S&W)! I'm glad Ranger Rick made the 610's though. Someone needs to make some long nosed bullets to fill up some of that 3.00" cylinder. OAL on the 610's is about 2.50", I think... about .850"-.90" from the crimp groove to the end. They are just a bit too long for the S&W or Taurus .500's.

Hi,

I've shot the 700's in my 4" S&W. No issues on functioning, big issues on controllability and usefulness. They will set you free...

I was told, and corroborated on paper, that those looooooooong bullets WILL keyhole at +/- 20 yards.

Penetration tested thus far: 20" diameter pine tree, through-and-through. 4-foot diameter pine tree stopped it. Both shot at 10 yards.

YMMV, but if you have a .500, you owe it to yourself to buy a box of 700's and try them out just for the Hell of it.

what twist do you need for the 700's?

Those 700s look awesome! But, they seem to be too much of a good thing. How in the world do they stabilize? Are they more of a stunt or a usable load?

The 700's seem to shoot fine from my 4" S&W. I loaded them with 2400 to around 900 fps, it really wasn't bad to shoot. I'm sure they would flatten anything that got in their way.
Here's his contact info if anyone needs it.
http://www.lsstuff.com/ranger-rick/

Does anyone know offhand what the twist rate is of the Smith .500? Just curious.

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Originally posted by Lar45:
The 700's seem to shoot fine from my 4" S&W. I loaded them with 2400 to around 900 fps, it really wasn't bad to shoot. I'm sure they would flatten anything that got in their way.
Here's his contact info if anyone needs it.
http://www.lsstuff.com/ranger-rick/

How much 2400 are you using?

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
Those 700s look awesome! But, they seem to be too much of a good thing. How in the world do they stabilize? Are they more of a stunt or a usable load?

Whitworth

These bullets are big at that but they do work quite well and do stablize out of the right revolver .
I have mine sighted in at 120 yards out of my scoped PC Hunter 10.5 and took a very nice 6 1/2 foot black bear at 77 yards right through the heart when hit and he did a back flip and was dead , not even a wiggle .
I will try to post a pic of him .
The 4" revolver and the ES do not stable after 28 yards from my testing , not enough barrel ..

Enjoy

RR

Ranger Rick, congradulations on the bear..

You have conclusive proof with the target and the bear..

Excellent and congrats. Very nice!

Have you played to see how heavy of a bullet will stabilize out of the 4" Smith?

Lars, I do know that S&W has produced a run of 500s with 10 twist barrels specifficaly for the 700 grain bullets, not sure if a slower twist works or not in the 4" guns. The higher speeds of RR's 10" barrel is probable why his is stabalizing in the PC revolver, unless he had a faster twist barrel installed...

Lar45, I have shot quit a few 700 gr. bullets from Ranger Rick in my 4 inch S&W. The stabilize just fine. I get very good groups at 25 yards with them.

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Originally posted by Redhawk1:
Lar45, I have shot quit a few 700 gr. bullets from Ranger Rick in my 4 inch S&W. The stabilize just fine. I get very good groups at 25 yards with them.

But what happens beyond 25 yards? Does anyone know the twist rate of the standard .500 smith? Again, just curious.

Great bear, congratulations!

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Originally posted by Whitworth:

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Originally posted by Redhawk1:
Lar45, I have shot quit a few 700 gr. bullets from Ranger Rick in my 4 inch S&W. The stabilize just fine. I get very good groups at 25 yards with them.

But what happens beyond 25 yards? Does anyone know the twist rate of the standard .500 smith? Again, just curious.

Great bear, congratulations!

I have done 90% of my shooting with the 700 gr. bullets at 25 yards. Seeing how it is my up and close gun. I did hit a bowling ball at 50 yards, but no paper shooting at that distance. As for the twist rate, I don't recall off hand.

Ranger Rick my be able to answer that better, because he shoots a lot of his heavy bullets in his 500 Mags.

I realize that your 4-inch Smith is for up close and personal work, but was curious to see what happens beyond 25 yards to perhaps 50. I wonder if the bullets start to keyhole......again, just wondering.

The 4" model only has about 3" of barrel with 1" of comp.
I ran a tight patch through mine and came up with 1.375" for a 1/16 turn and 1.375" for the next 1/16 turn. That would put it at 22" per twist.

I wonder if S&W's Custom shop would swap in the 10" twist barrel. How does the 10" twist do with lighter bullets like 400-500gn? (LOL lighter bullets, I guess everything is relative)

Anybody going to the Linebaugh Seminar in Cody? It's supposed to be the second week of June, 11-14th I believe. It seems like someone mentioned the 700gn bullets being shot in the penetration box, but I don't remember how they did. Anybody?
Maybe I'll move this to a new topic so as to not

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
I realize that your 4-inch Smith is for up close and personal work, but was curious to see what happens beyond 25 yards to perhaps 50. I wonder if the bullets start to keyhole......again, just wondering.

Whitworth, I will load some up and go out and see what I come up with at 50 yards. Now I have shot the 575 gr. from Ranger Rick with my S&W 500 8 5/8 and 4 inch barrel's at 50 yards and got very good groups. Both handled the heavy bullets well and no keyholes.

That's great! Look forward to reading about your results -- thanks for indulging me.

Whitworth, I got 30 of the 700 gr. bullets loaded up. I will be going to the range and shoot them at 50 yards. I will give you some feedback some time this week.

That's great! Looking forward to seeing the results. Man, that is a HUGE bullet!

Try some at 100 yards or farther....

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
That's great! Looking forward to seeing the results. Man, that is a HUGE bullet!

I will shoot some in my BFR 500 Mag and some in my 4 inch S&W 500 Mag. Thank god for them Past shooting gloves. lol

I would imagine the BFR is a lot worse from a recoil standpoint despite the fact that it is an SA revolver.

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
I would imagine the BFR is a lot worse from a recoil standpoint despite the fact that it is an SA revolver.

You got that right..

You want recoil check this out, 50 Alaskan Revolver

After already shooting the 700 gr. bullets in my 4 inch 500 Mag, the 500 Alaskan is not my idea of a fun day of shooting.

That .500 Alaskan is brutal! And I understand that MS Hitman has a higher tolerance to recoil than most! That thing would have creased my forehead!

jwp -- give us the specifics (bullet weight, speed, etc.) of that load in the .50 Alaskan. It looks painful.......

525 grain bullet at just under 1600 FPS

Brutal! Do you have a photo of the ammo? How long is the case compared to a .500 Smith? Just curious.

The 50 Alaskan case is 2.1" long at least the one that I just measured is.. The 525 can be loaded to exceed 1600 FPS and 600 grain Jacketed can be loaded to over 1400 FPS, but the recoil is just too much.... The525's as loaded by Buffalo Bore have enough recoil....

Doesn't sound like much fun to shoot.......

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Originally posted by jwp475:
The 50 Alaskan case is 2.1" long at least the one that I just measured is.. The 525 can be loaded to exceed 1600 FPS and 600 grain Jacketed can be loaded to over 1400 FPS, but the recoil is just too much.... The525's as loaded by Buffalo Bore have enough recoil....

I am doing a lil more with my BFR in 50/110 Conversion and it is MEAN! I am pushing the 600s at over 1400 and it definitly "stings" ...It has more room in the 2.4" case,but if I need more,I will have to get out the Really "Big Guns"! PS.The Alaskan and my 50/110 sure make even my 500Smith cartridges look so small!!

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Originally posted by SAFARIKID:

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Originally posted by jwp475:
The 50 Alaskan case is 2.1" long at least the one that I just measured is.. The 525 can be loaded to exceed 1600 FPS and 600 grain Jacketed can be loaded to over 1400 FPS, but the recoil is just too much.... The525's as loaded by Buffalo Bore have enough recoil....

I am doing a lil more with my BFR in 50/110 Conversion and it is MEAN! I am pushing the 600s at over 1400 and it definitly "stings" ...It has more room in the 2.4" case,but if I need more,I will have to get out the Really "Big Guns"! PS.The Alaskan and my 50/110 sure make even my 500Smith cartridges look so small!!

Jack has loaded 600 grainers to 1400+ in the revolver in the photo, not sure why one would need them.

This was a one shot kill with complete penetration (bullet exited) with the 525 rain WLFN at 1100 FPS
from the 500 Linebaugh

jwp -- how much did that beast weigh?