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I can't see why they rolled out this cartridge. Can anybody tell me why they thought this would be a good idea?






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I can't see why they rolled out this cartridge. Can anybody tell me why they thought this would be a good idea?


It's a cartridge that comfortably fits in the confines of a "normal-sized" revolver. It's definitely a bigger hammer on game than the various .45s (and the .44 Mag). Even loaded to spec it doesn't kick nearly as badly as its parent the .475 Linebaugh (loaded to spec), meaning it is a friendlier cartridge. As a handgun hunter it makes all the sense in the world. The more pertinent question is why not the .480 Ruger?

I've killed all manner of game with the .480 and it is very effective terminally.



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One more thing to add, but the .480 Ruger wasn't just "rolled out," it was introduced in 2001.



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I can't see why they rolled out this cartridge. Can anybody tell me why they thought this would be a good idea?


It's a cartridge that comfortably fits in the confines of a "normal-sized" revolver. It's definitely a bigger hammer on game than the various .45s (and the .44 Mag).


That's probably what I was missing. The 475 linbaugh is on a larger frame?






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I can't see why they rolled out this cartridge. Can anybody tell me why they thought this would be a good idea?


It's a cartridge that comfortably fits in the confines of a "normal-sized" revolver. It's definitely a bigger hammer on game than the various .45s (and the .44 Mag). Even loaded to spec it doesn't kick nearly as badly as its parent the .475 Linebaugh (loaded to spec), meaning it is a friendlier cartridge. As a handgun hunter it makes all the sense in the world. The more pertinent question is why not the .480 Ruger?

I've killed all manner of game with the .480 and it is very effective terminally.

I couldn't have said it any better. It's a great cartridge.
 
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Because they saw an opportunity to sell guns.
 
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I can't see why they rolled out this cartridge. Can anybody tell me why they thought this would be a good idea?


It's a cartridge that comfortably fits in the confines of a "normal-sized" revolver. It's definitely a bigger hammer on game than the various .45s (and the .44 Mag).


That's probably what I was missing. The 475 linbaugh is on a larger frame?


The 475 Linebaugh is built on the same frame size. The frame is opened a bit to allow a longer cylinder to be installed.
Nothing wrong with a 480 IMHO.


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Because they saw an opportunity to sell guns.


Big-bore revolvers are not and have never been big sellers for any manufacturer of firearms. That said, it really is one of the best cartridges for the handgun hunter IMHO. A much better option than either model of X-frame.



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You can always chop one down but I'd like to see a 4 5/8" 480


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Remember that Hornady and Ruger have cooperated in introducing several cartridges bearing the Ruger name. In this case, they had the opportunity to introduce a SAAMI spec cartridge close to the cult popular .475 Linebaugh in power (100 fps with 400 gr.), that wouldn't bear his name, that gave the performance levels noted above.
It took over 10 years of requests from the public, including Lipsey's Jason Cloessner, for Ruger to agree to introduce this .480 5 shot single action.
It's a winner.


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whats not to like about the 480 ruger? It is a good step up in power from the 45's as it will shoot 400gn bullets. It kicks just a little more than a 44 mag but has much more power.

you could argue why not make it a 475 Linebaugh.

The reason is mainly to come close to that cartridge in power but have a lot less kick.
It's kind of like the 454 and 45 colt. the 454 is just too much for some to handle when the 45 colt or 44 mag will get it done.

The 480 ruger offers a step up in power without increasing recoil to the levels of 454 or 475
 
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Because next to the 45LC, its the coolest caliber ever --

huge bullets
good vels
and wide range of frames you can build one on.

and its .475 bullets...


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From the point of shooting AND carrying, I think it makes a lot of sense. Had an X frame 500, lot of fun, it,s bark was worse than it,s bite. After getting it, and the novelty wore off, 500 JRH started looking better and better. Lighter, handier, and for fun stuff with HS-6, think a shorter case would work a lot better.
Like the idea of a 475 Linebaugh, but if I can get my hands on a new 480 Blackhawk, I will.
If they happen to come out with a 500 JRH, there's gonna be some serious plotting and scheming goin on.
 
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I have one in a RedHawk great caliber 400 ft/lbs over the 44 mag and not much more recoil. I scoped it and plan on taking it to Texas this fall to hunt with.


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Buddy of mine in Texas owns a Taurus 92 in 480 Ruger, and used it to drop a hybrid Cape/Water Buffalo. I personally am not a fan of the cartridge a 44 magnum being more than adequate for my island needs but you can't argue with the results, and I wouldn't steer a Mainlander away from buying a 480 Ruger.


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I like the fact that the midframe flattops and new vaquero's can be converted to 5 shot 480's. Such a gun in 4.75" bisley or #5 fashion would be sweet!


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I can't see why they rolled out this cartridge. Can anybody tell me why they thought this would be a good idea?


It's a cartridge that comfortably fits in the confines of a "normal-sized" revolver. It's definitely a bigger hammer on game than the various .45s (and the .44 Mag). Even loaded to spec it doesn't kick nearly as badly as its parent the .475 Linebaugh (loaded to spec), meaning it is a friendlier cartridge. As a handgun hunter it makes all the sense in the world. The more pertinent question is why not the .480 Ruger?

I've killed all manner of game with the .480 and it is very effective terminally.


Old thread but:

I do not presently own or never own a 480 Ruger. I am not really a handgun hunter either. But, I carry larger bore revolvers anytime I am out and about in the outdoors and shoot them a bit.

I personally think the 480 Ruger is an outstanding round. I believe it may be my near-future ideal large bore.
I have been pondering in this cartridge for quiet sometime.

The 480 Ruger does pretty much all I need in a large bore without excess.
I do enjoy my 44s, 45s, 454s, 475s; and they have their place. And yes, I could use 480's in the 475's or adjust the load, but rather one load in one cartridge. Plus, I want the 480 in a double action.

The 480 seems about perfect in form and function.
Platform wise, I wish that Ruger would make the single and double actions in 5" barrels. But, barrel length can be changed. And I am damn happy they are producing their present line.

Okay, re-reading this thread has just about pushed me over the edge on purchasing Super RedHawk in 480 Ruger.
 
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Today, I corrected that deficiency of not owning a 480 Ruger. I acquired a Super RedHawk in 480 Ruger. Barrel reduction to 5" is called for. Wish they offered a 480 in the Toklat model.

A Super BlackHawk Bisley in 480 is now on the wish list. I had my paws and drool on one the other day. I really like the feel of it, but again would prefer a 5" model. But, that is achievable.
 
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Congratulations and welcome to the club!



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Thank you. I have high hopes that after cutting the barrel to 5", this will be very handy for a large revolver. I do like the 5" Toklat 454.

A Bisley in 480 is now high on the want list.
 
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Let us know what you think of it after cutting the barrel.
 
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Let us know what you think of it after cutting the barrel.


Will do. But may be awhile, I have a couple other revolvers that I need to ship outside for some modifications.

I do have a 454 Super RedHawk with a 5" barrel and I like its handling, and carrying characteristics (in a chest holster). My son also has a 454, 5" Super RedHawk and really likes it.

The 5" barrel does not turn Super RedHawk into the sleeker 5" S&W 629 Classic, but does make it much handier for me to carry.

I have a Freedom Arms in 475 Linebaugh with a 4-3/4 barrel and it maybe my favorite outdoors type companion single action. Quiet possibly my favorite revolver period. It stepped ahead of a 454 Freedom Arms 5.5" that I carried around for about 20 years.

With all that said, I have gravitated towards 5" barrels being my preferred barrel length of single and double actions.
And likely the 480 Ruger will become my favorite larger bore cartridge. I can not see what not to like about the 480.
 
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What's not to like about the 480 Ruger. A 400+gr bullet @ 1200 fps. I may be odd, but I really like the 7 1/2" SRH. It makes a fine hunting And bdp "bear defense pistol. Some guys say they are too big and heavy to pack, that has not been my experience. I got my first one in 02 and have packed a SRH 480 for several years in the brush. I prefer the recoil of the 400+gr bullet loads at 1200 ish fps to the factory 325 gr load. Much less snappy and with H110/Win296 it seems more like shooting a 45Colt than a 454.. Tho I like most of the large bore revolver rounds . I like the 480 Ruger best of all.


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I have the itch to shorten my Super Redhawk 480 Ruger from 9 1/2 inches. It isn't rational. I have a 500 Linebaugh 5 1/2" Redhawk and a Taurus 6 1/2" 480 Ruger. It's not a need it's an obsession. I have to say the 3 pound Redhawk is the only handgun that's drawn blood. I hadn't tried a full power load in a year or so and touched one off. The front sight and my forehead got together and my wife got to laugh and practice her nursing skills. She mentions I've laughed at lots of folks who couldn't control their revolver recoil. I like the ease with which the Super Redhawk attaches my Ultradot 30. It is clumsy but would make a good tree stand gun, if someone would carry it for me.
 
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I asked the same question about their RCM line of cartridges. Still scratching my head...


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However, the .480 makes perfect sense. If you haven't used one on big-game I would recommend doing so. Try it, you may like it.



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Iirc when the 480 came out the 325 gr factory load had a velocity in the 1400s fps. Now its listed as 1380 fps . Not that it makes a difference, just different maybe.


Phil Shoemaker : "I went to a .30-06 on a fine old Mauser action. That worked successfully for a few years until a wounded, vindictive brown bear taught me that precise bullet placement is not always possible in thick alders, at spitting distances and when time is measured in split seconds. Lucky to come out of that lesson alive, I decided to look for a more suitable rifle."
 
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However, the .480 makes perfect sense. If you haven't used one on big-game I would recommend doing so. Try it, you may like it.


I have a Rossi lever action chambered for the 480,what game have you taken & what ammo did you use?thanks.


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I have taken a number of wild hogs with Hornady 400 grain XTPs, Speer 325 grain ammo, Buffalo Bore 370 grain cast loads, and handloads with CEB 220 grain Raptor bullets, black bear with Buffalo Bore 410 grain cast loads, and I took a 1,500 water buffalo with handloads with a 340 grain CEB handgun solid.



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What velocity did you have the 340 gr CEB solid going ? From what gun ?
Thanks .
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Phil Shoemaker : "I went to a .30-06 on a fine old Mauser action. That worked successfully for a few years until a wounded, vindictive brown bear taught me that precise bullet placement is not always possible in thick alders, at spitting distances and when time is measured in split seconds. Lucky to come out of that lesson alive, I decided to look for a more suitable rifle."
 
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I have taken a number of wild hogs with Hornady 400 grain XTPs, Speer 325 grain ammo, Buffalo Bore 370 grain cast loads, and handloads with CEB 220 grain Raptor bullets, black bear with Buffalo Bore 410 grain cast loads, and I took a 1,500 water buffalo with handloads with a 340 grain CEB handgun solid.


Thanks for your answer,at what range in yards do you typically take your shots? I have hunted with nothing except big bore rifles so far & this is a learning curve for me.


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Bill, I like getting up close and personal. The water buffalo was taken at about 30 yards, the other animals at a variety of distances ranging from 25 - 75 yards or thereabouts.



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Max, we have a mutual acquaintance. Ashley Emerson of Garret Cartridges of Texas. I live and farm not far from his hunting camp in West Texas. If he ever succeeds in getting you to come hog hunting with him, hopefully, he'll let me know so I can meet you.
 
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Max, we have a mutual acquaintance. Ashley Emerson of Garret Cartridges of Texas. I live and farm not far from his hunting camp in West Texas. If he ever succeeds in getting you to come hog hunting with him, hopefully, he'll let me know so I can meet you.


Ashley's trying to get me out there in spring some time, but that will depend on my increasingly chaotic schedule. Would love to meet.



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