257X50; That was a good explaination! thanks! I like the idea, and will add that to my "to do" list.

Shack; You really dont need to carry all those guns....what you need is the National Guard!!!! For the wild dogs...Milk Bone Dog Bisquits....for the Coyotes just a kind word...they love to be "talked to"....and, for the two legged "vermin"...an Alley Cleaner should do the trick. Really, thats a shame about your property.....dont you have neighbors that keep an eye on the place?

Flattop;

One last thing, make sure the stainless you are using is hard enough to polish well. And that it won't rust. Some will.

257X50; 316 should do nicely, and I can match the finish on the Redhawk with that grade.

Flattop;
For the lanyard it self, get some line from a sailing shop. Has Kevlar in it and TOUGH. See if they will splice it for you. Radii where the lanyard goes thru.

flat top, those ARE the neighbors.

The dogs wake us chasing deer thru the camp at night, but you can get used to anything...just let one have it with a 12 ga and the rest back off..

Seriously, this is an interesting discussion, but like I said it appears to apply to some more than others. Our handgun woods carry is more specific purpose, then the hunt's over and we're gone. For back packing out West, I know that's different..

257X50; 10-4 I will give that a try! Thanks!

Shack; I wouldnt shoot the dogs..they dont know any better. I would shoot the neighbors!!!

At one of my deer hunting spots the Corp of Engineers and the Conservation Commission own two huge peices of ajoining property. There are folks who live close to the property. Years ago when the Corps and the Con Com bought the land, the neighbors got all up in arms, and just wouldnt accept the fact that they could not use that land as their own any more...it was privately owned, but they poached off the land anyway....now there are "laws"!!! When the Corps and Conservation officers started laying down the law, the neighbors went nuts...now, they spotlight deer at night, and kill off all the does, and dump the carcasses on the public parking areas of the land. Some of the neighbors have been caught, arrested and jailed, for up to two years...fined...and still continue to do this. Needless to say the deer population has dropped to next to nothing because the breeding stock, the does, has deminished. Now, the hunters are up in arms because some wonderful hunting opportunities have been ruined.....and, there is talk of retaliating against the neighbors!
Your neighbors seem to be of the same ilk as the "neighbors" we have down on the river. Too bad.

As far as this discussion, you are right...most of us use or have specific purpose weapons, but, I would just like one handgun that could accomplish all feats for the sake of simplicity. If I could be successful with this project, I would not hesitate to sell off my other handguns, and become a one gun shooter.

One gun?IMO there is one.With shot shell loads or a 255 at 750-850fps,birds and table fare can be had as well as any 2 legged critter.A 300 at 1000-1200fps will handle all but dangerous critters as well as 2 legged critters.And my 350-360 at 1200fps will handle the rest.Tell me something that it doesn't cover?Still not convinced?By todays standards a mild load was used to dispatch everything from grouse and rabbits,deer to buffalo,and a many a man has returned to the dust because of this caliber.The animals aren't any tougher and the people are definately softer so why wouldn't it work?What is it?The 45colt.

Can't argue with that!

flat top, "down the river" is kinda where we are too...the Mississippi River. And the stuff I mentioned are only a few examples. I was telling another landowner in the area about the burned out stolen car and he asks if any human remains were found in it. I said no, and he says down his way, there would be. And, you don't leave batteries in farm equipment and things like that, or the local top citizens would have them out by morning. And, they had to close a roadside rest stop because the natives stole the toilets. And, one of our guys' ATV with its trailer was stolen. A thief dropped a cell phone beside where it was. I heard it was traced to a local druglord and nothing was done about it.

And, there's beautiful old property for sale in the nearby town that just sits because nobody wants to live there any longer.

The spooky part is when you arrive to hunt at 4 or 5 a.m. and find them in a car parked on the farm and you get the sullen glare.

The amusing part is, we also have a camp site with a side road of sorts that the locals consider a "lovers lane". That leads to some entertaining moments. I won't go into that here.

And, there was the day a hunter friend was describing how he was in the town hardware store and overheard the locals talking about this great place to deer hunt. He listened as they talked about how good it was and described where. From the landmarks etc he could tell they were talking about OUR place. He recalled they said "it's where everybody hunts"..

Anyway, it would be an improvement if we just had what you do, locals who are upset about not being able to hunt. Our problems are more...well, I'm not sure how to put it...

Shack; The "one gun" idea would put a crimp on a fella's "need" for more guns....nobody mention this to the wives!

The land we hunt is at the Mississippi/Missouri rivers confluence....it has been so bad, that this year I only hunted during the week...didnt see a thing...no sign...no nothing....nothing but dead carcasses strewn about! Its 2:30 am, and I am heading up to northern Missouri to hunt the weekend...maybe we will have better success up there.

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Shack; The "one gun" idea would put a crimp on a fella's "need" for more guns....nobody mention this to the wives!

That's for sure!

Whit; Your statements on a 5 1/2" barrel as a compact "easy to carry" package had me befuddled for a while, but, I am beginning to see the light! For me, at 5' 10" a 3" barrel would be ideal, but, for someone that was taller, a longer barrel could possibly be more fitting.....barrel lenght/handgun size is commensurate with the size of the person doing the carrying!!! I started at a 5' 5" tall person and a barrel lenght of 2" and worked out a forumla to determine what the appropriate lenght of barrel would be for the size of the person carrying it. For a guy my size, my formula gets me at 3" on the money, and for a 7' 8" guy like you, 5 1/2" is perfect!!!

Nearly 6' 1".......

And it's not 5 1/2-inches, it's 5-inches.....

I have a Model 29 with a 3-inch barrel that is great to carry. My only beef is that it's a .429 magnum.

Whit; At 6' 1" according to my forumla....you are "overgunned", but, being "Whit", that is perfectly understandable!!!! For the "best" in a short barreled magnum handgun, the 44 Mag with a three inch barrel, has been proven to be ideal in all respects...you have one, count your blessings........and, when your fellow shooters see you carrying one, they will know, that you know... "whats happenin'!!!!"

I kinda like my hoglegs on the long side...but only long enuf that I won't trip over the barrel while walking. 8 3/8 is OK in an SW and 7 1/2 in the others.

..now, what I want to know about this deal is, how are you counting WIDTH in that formula..

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Whit; At 6' 1" according to my forumla....you are "overgunned", but, being "Whit", that is perfectly understandable!!!! For the "best" in a short barreled magnum handgun, the 44 Mag with a three inch barrel, has been proven to be ideal in all respects...you have one, count your blessings........and, when your fellow shooters see you carrying one, they will know, that you know... "whats happenin'!!!!"

Ideal in all but caliber.......

Shack; Havent got the width thing figured out yet....and may never! But hey, anybody who is looking for what I am in a revolver, would have their own set of prameters, so I am sure they would design it for "thier" physical attributes....(or lack of them)).

Whit; Think "balance" and you know what I am talking about. Well, its a beautiful day here, and ol' Miss Daisy (my old Harley) is wanting to go for a spin...she was neglected during deer season, so I owe her.......I am off to ride the highways and byways of America! (locally anyway).

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Whit; Think "balance" and you know what I am talking about. Well, its a beautiful day here, and ol' Miss Daisy (my old Harley) is wanting to go for a spin...she was neglected during deer season, so I owe her.......I am off to ride the highways and byways of America! (locally anyway).

Did you get a Deer. Sorry but the 44 is underbalanced

Balance is different for everyone.....

flat top, have a safe ride and great time! Watch out for blue hairs who can't see over the dash board!

JWP; You have been mislead by the gun media that insists that every new big bore cartridge, out does the last........the 44 mag has taken every game animal in the world, and nothing has changed since. Lets face it, you got that new switch barreled Redhawk in 45 LC, with a 44 mag barrel just in case you wanted to really kill something!!!

Deer season was a bust, but not only for me.....I dont know anyone who got a deer this year, and I know a lot of hunters. Dont ask me why its been such a bad season....probably just wasnt holding my jaw right! Next year we are going up to North Eastern Missouri to hunt a large private farm, and if that doesnt work out, we are going to go to Jamaica and chase the island girls for a week.......either way, its all huntin'!

Whit; I realize that, but, at least my forehead shows no scars!

Had a nice ride, and worked on my new saddle for the bike....You know, I really have got it made....huntin', shooting, gunsmithing, reloading, and ridin'... a good job.....Oh!, and three 44 mags!!! I am in a happy place!

Flattop;

The deer aren't stupid. They have all read the gun mags about 44 mag Light Sabre. They flee in fear!!!!!!

Sorry about your hunt. But better than 3 years, 3 cars, 3 deer.

What year is your Harley?

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Whit; I realize that, but, at least my forehead shows no scars!

Had a nice ride, and worked on my new saddle for the bike....You know, I really have got it made....huntin', shooting, gunsmithing, reloading, and ridin'... a good job.....Oh!, and three 44 mags!!! I am in a happy place!

My scalp, not my forehead shows exactly one scar. The other scars are from a mispent youth.....

JWPs swich caliber is a .429 magnum and a .454 Casull. One for plinkin' and one for killin'!

257X50; Oh! I see you use the road kill method!!!

No big deal on the hunt...have had busts from time to time. Its just good to get out in the woods.

I have a 98 Heritage Springer. Bought it as a "left outside for two years" rustbucket, and totally rebuilt it all to "old school"...a late 40's, early 50's leather bagger design scheme. My Bro and I build aftermarket one off parts, and do bike building...have for over 45 years. We are both retired, but still do some work from time to time. Like gunsmithing, shooting and hunting, it has been one of the greatest joys of my life..............you know, my hunting buddy told me that if I would quit carrying that 44 mag....I would see more deer. He may be right!!!I know a few folks that hunt with the 454's, 500's and what not, and they see deer all the time....The deer have nothing to fear with those cartridges!!!

Flattop;

My first new vehicle was a 75 Superglide...........$3149.

Ride safe.

Have you seen"Worlds Fastest Indian"?

JWP; "One for plinkin' and the other one for killin'." 454...plinker. 44 mag...killer!!!

257X50; Cool!!! My first was a 47' Knuck...bought it in 1962 for 125 dollars...full fendered...all stock, and, complete. Owned it for over 25 years (and about 5 rebuilds!!). My second was a 57 Pan...dresser, and owned it till the mid 90's. Then, I bought a BMW R-80 RS, and put 167,000 miles on it...traveled all over the country...sold it about 8 years ago, found Miss Daisy rusting away, and the rest is history.

Yes! Saw Worlds Fastest Indian.......for a biker it was a good flick...funny!!!

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JWP; "One for plinkin' and the other one for killin'." 454...plinker. 44 mag...killer!!!

The other way around. There is no replacement for displacement

JWP; Now you are sounding like a drag racer!!! I have seen small blocks beat up on big blocks too many times to accept that line of thought!

I have been perfectly content for several years with my Taurus M44 stainless 44 magnum with 6.5" factory ported barrel. What I would like is 5 shot 41 magnum built on a S&W L-frame with 5" barrel which would be a fine balance of weight and power for my needs. I friend owns a Standard blue Redhawk in 500 Linebaugh which also has great appeal but for overseas trips.

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JWP; Now you are sounding like a drag racer!!! I have seen small blocks beat up on big blocks too many times to accept that line of thought!

Try increasing the wieght a bit, like add a heavy trailer and pull up a mountain pass and get back to me.
Torque goes up with dissplacement

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I have been perfectly content for several years with my Taurus M44 stainless 44 magnum with 6.5" factory ported barrel. What I would like is 5 shot 41 magnum built on a S&W L-frame with 5" barrel which would be a fine balance of weight and power for my needs. I friend owns a Standard blue Redhawk in 500 Linebaugh which also has great appeal but for overseas trips.

Just don't try a properly loaded 45 and you will always be pleased with the .429 magnum

flat top I've seen a few small blocks do some winning over big blocks,but build the big block right and run heads up in a same weight car and it don't stand a chance.


Just like the .429 magnum will never be a .45,and a .45 will never be a .475,and a .475 will never be a .501-.512.Load it right and the bigger caliber will win out.

Cottonstalk...the 429 doesnt need to be a 45 or any other caliber...simply because it IS a 429!!!

JWP; My Harley engine is 89 cu in. On the Dyno, it produced 115 hp and 145 ft lbs of torque at 7200 rpm with a redline of 8000 rpm. With stock gearing it ran over 140 mph on the Dyno. It is not a stroker motor, nor is it a big bore by todays standards, but, it is a well balanced combination of performance enhancements....I can liken the 44 mag to my motor...it is "well balanced" and produces enough power to get the job done, and IMHO anything else is simply overkill!

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Cottonstalk...the 429 doesnt need to be a 45 or any other caliber...simply because it IS a 429!!!

JWP; My Harley engine is 89 cu in. On the Dyno, it produced 115 hp and 145 ft lbs of torque at 7200 rpm with a redline of 8000 rpm. With stock gearing it ran over 140 mph on the Dyno. It is not a stroker motor, nor is it a big bore by todays standards, but, it is a well balanced combination of performance enhancements....I can liken the 44 mag to my motor...it is "well balanced" and produces enough power to get the job done, and IMHO anything else is simply overkill!

I thought the 429 magnum set the moon, until I got to Alaska and found that a larger bore revolver was a better mouse trap and I can neve3r go backe, yet I still have a soft spot in my heart for the .429 magnum after all it raised the bar in its time,b ut alas the bar has been raised even higher buy the 454 and evem higher by the 475 and even higher by the 500's

Balanced is good.

Moderate is........well........moderate.

Mae West:Too Much of a Good Thing is Wonderful..........

Robert Heinlin:Take BIG Bites out of Life. Moderation is for Monks.

257x50:design on the ragged edge of overkill. Whatever that means.

i've yet to see anything killed by my 454 or 475 that wouldn't have died with a .429 so to speak. never seen anything killed with a .475 that wouldn't have died with a .500.