Just borrow Shootaway assuming he survives his trip to Africa...

Well this isn't my project but if it were I might consider making this thing...

A Revolver Carbine with an 18" barrel and a stock.

A lot more utility and easier to handle.

A frame with more material to attach the components would be good. USE the BFR as a guide.

That would be cool, but then it ceases to be a handgun........

I like the idea of a removable stock for rapid recovery from recoil.

Would make a heck of a pheasant gun with the 5 32 gauge shells or for air conditioning a bear

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
That would be cool, but then it ceases to be a handgun........

Yes,that is true...but.,I am starting to grow fond of that idea,a revolving rifle,5 quick shots if needed,rather light(depending on butt stock material-glass or wood?)I would go with a 16" Octagon barrel with integral sights and a QR Leupold 1-4 Scope.Now,any suggestions on how to attach the stock and who could fashion such a "contraption" for me?!(I have seen them on the older BP revolvers) Sounds like a neat Bear/Buffalo Rig (Yes,of course I need another one!)

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Originally posted by Macifej:
Has anyone ever serial produced an over 50 BORE handgun??

I believe that JD Jones at SSK Industries has built a few bigger than 50 Cal. I know that he has built some rifle that make the 12 Guage From Hell look small

He built some 600 nE handguns I believe.

I think you're talking about the 950 JDJ rifle.

The "Fudd" gun...

This would be the largest "Practical" altered comercial gun.

A blue collar bear smasher.

The .475 Linebaugh will smash bears -- just ask jwp475!

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Originally posted by Macifej:
He built some 600 nE handguns I believe.

I think you're talking about the 950 JDJ rifle.

The "Fudd" gun...

He, at one thing he made a few rifles based on the 20mm cannon case...

http://reunion.omnica.com/ReferencePages/pistol_carbine.htm

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Originally posted by jwp475:

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Originally posted by Macifej:
He built some 600 nE handguns I believe.

I think you're talking about the 950 JDJ rifle.

The "Fudd" gun...

He, at one thing he made a few rifles based on the 20mm cannon case...

Yep....that's the 950 JDJ...a 20mm M103 brass case lopped in half and necked down slightly to 95 caliber to form a small shoulder.

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Originally posted by boom stick:
This would be the largest "Practical" altered comercial gun.

A blue collar bear smasher.

A blue collar bear smasher IMHO would be a laymans gun, not an exotic one of kind guage/pistol that requires an 18" barrel to be legal.

well my point was that a blue collar guy could have one made for the price of a moderate custom rifle.

SAFARIKID-

Your comment 'revolving rifle'

That's essentially what I've always considered my S&W500 PC Hunter, an ultra compact repeating rifle.

It's perfect in tight nasty manzanita thickets, I carried it on my last bear hunt more than I carried my bolt rifle -- it was often much easier to carry than a long gun, but it packs plenty of whack, it's very accurate, and in the big PC Hunter package, it's very controllable.

I think you're on to something!


-Tinker

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Originally posted by a.tinkerer:
SAFARIKID-

Your comment 'revolving rifle'

That's essentially what I've always considered my S&W500 PC Hunter, an ultra compact repeating rifle.

It's perfect in tight nasty manzanita thickets, I carried it on my last bear hunt more than I carried my bolt rifle -- it was often much easier to carry than a long gun, but it packs plenty of whack, it's very accurate, and in the big PC Hunter package, it's very controllable.

I think you're on to something!


-Tinker

Thank you for your vote of confidence

This thing will be the S&W x2

Sure have to watch where you hold the revolving rifle in our new calibers. You could lose an arm or hand.
Have a bear jump out at you and forgetting to keep your hand behind the cylinder would still send you to the hospital!

These are crew-served weapons not handguns!

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Originally posted by bfrshooter:
Sure have to watch where you hold the revolving rifle in our new calibers. You could lose an arm or hand.
Have a bear jump out at you and forgetting to keep your hand behind the cylinder would still send you to the hospital!

YES! I saw what happened to that SW 460 shooter who lost a finger!I will get some asbestos gloves too!

With a stock held like a rifle with the right hand on the stock it would be near imposible to get burned.

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Originally posted by boom stick:
With a stock held like a rifle with the right hand on the stock it would be near imposible to get burned.

Where's the left hand?

Pulling the trigger.

It wont be any more dangerous than any other big bore handgun.

"The best safety is between the ears" as a wise person once said while carying a lucky rabbits foot.

You a lefty, Boomie?

no but with the rifle stock you your right would be on the stock and your left around the handle pulling the trigger.

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Originally posted by boom stick:
no but with the rifle stock you your right would be on the stock and your left around the handle pulling the trigger.

Boomie, I am right handed and that means that the stock is held with my left while my right will always tickle the trigger.......

With this configuration if I am right handed my left would pull the trigger right?

Ah, no, it's like a rifle and the butt would be in your right shoulder.......therefore, your right hand still tickles the trigger.......

with the BFR both hands would be on the pistol grips or one on the stock and for me that would be the right. Whatever is most practical.

Even with a two-handed grip, your right hand does the shooting -- this wouldn't change with a stock.

yes if the two hands on the pistol grips method is used.

I guess another way would be to have the right hand on the trigger and use the left to secure the stock in the shoulder.

Whatever is most practical and safe.

Hmmm,I could put both hands on the pistol butt and that would prevent the hot gases escaping the barrel/cyl gap from getting your hand,wrist or arm.Doesnt seem like it would be quite as stable,but this is still a close range weapon,100yds or much less(at least for me hunting bears and boars)..I could have Jack fashion some type of intergral hanger on the barrel for a neat lil forearm of exotic wood?!(maybe about 6" long,rather slender and maybe even checkered?)...Now,wouldnt this end up being like a TC or Encore look?

Thinking about it some more it would seem the safest thing to do is to have both hands on the pistol grip as you would normaly while pulling it into the shoulder to absorb recoil. keeping the familiar two hand grip is important as to shoot it without thinking stock or not.

I guess the thing is to get it made and then figure out the stock later. The upside is once the stock is made it would be a good seller for all bfr's. long barreled bfr's will be all the rage.

with a stock the bfr would be a heck of a lead thrower. if you come accross a bunch of pigs just see how many you can hit. Bacon for a year!

I may be wrong(?),but I think IF one attache's a stock to a handgun and the barrel is under 16" long,he is doing a NO-NO according to our ATF friends??????????

Yes...Keep the barrel long...at least for a while

The barrel would have to be long to leave his shop and sell legaly

Boomstick,I am thinking of calling it the .55DG (Dangerous Game) or .55BFR (Big Fat Round,or use your imagination on that one!)....or, .55BK (Bear Killer) These all would fit the headstamp....

Whitworth, I have to apologize. For some reason I figured you to be the kind of person that would stay on this bandwagon wherever it went. Thanks for proving me wrong and showing me the sanity of your remarks above.

For the LIFE of me I don't know why anyone would try something this dumb. In the military we always joked about monkeys having their way with footballs, but this one is ridiculous.

Don't any of you guys know the effects of sound on the body. Working jets for nearly 30 years cost me hearing, but working on hypervelocity fighter engines almost killed me. It's called "whole body sound" Just the concussion of a round this sizegoing off is going to damage the bones and the nerves in you hands and arms (assuming that the recoil doesn't knock the pistol out of your grip and it turns your skull into a canoe). You can and very likely will develop neuropothy in your hands that won't ever recover. I've seen the 4 Bore and the 2 bore shotguns used by market hunters but even they were smart enough not to try and shoot them offhand. "Because you can" may be a cute answer, but you can also swallow cut glass, but it's not a very smart idea.

George makes a point.

I have a sense though that this project is more of a stunt than a daily plinker -- and the players have the dough to throw at the build of these 'fun guns' where the entertainment factor far outweighs the financial burden, and at the end of the day, I doubt they will be 'daily shooters'

Good for everyone.

On George's point, I'll admit that relatively hot loads in my wee-little S&W 500mag PC Hunter kick an obviously noticeable shockwave that even close bystanders can feel.
Out of courtesy I don't shoot the thing at public ranges - all load development and practice with that revolver happen out at the ranch, and I don't do extensive practice shooting with the ultra-hot loads.

Plinking loads, on the other hand, are a peach to shoot. Loads that feel/sound/shoot soft/sweet/comfortable in the PC Hunter are still typically well over the range of your typical ultra-hot 44 mag loads which would be a bitch and a half to shoot in a m29 or any similarly scaled revolver.

These big revolvers are fun.
I think it's cool that these guys like commissioning and building these totally outrageous monstrosities of handguns.
More power to them!


--Tinker

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Originally posted by george roof:
Whitworth, I have to apologize. For some reason I figured you to be the kind of person that would stay on this bandwagon wherever it went. Thanks for proving me wrong and showing me the sanity of your remarks above.

Why thank you, George, I think?

55 DG or 55 BIG 5 would be great.
This beast is not for mere mortals and I think SAFARIKID has proven himself transcendent of recoil.

His 4 bore vid Is proof enough for me.

BoomStick-

55 BIG 5?

Call it the 'Triple Nickel'

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Originally posted by boom stick:
55 DG or 55 BIG 5 would be great.

--Tinker