That's a lot of bovine, Juan!! Congratulations! What is the load that you used?

Whitworth ,to be honest the hunt was a completed disaster,i used hollow point black talons ,i shot at 25 mts the 6 shots ,4 in the lung area 2 in the craneum ,but hitting nasal bones ,after that it was attacked by my dogo paimun at hopefully run away ,but i lost it and i recovered it after 2 days tracking ,from horseback .Now iuse garrets for buffalo in 44 magnum and in my marlin guide gun 4570.Juan

jp

You've just learned a valuable lesson with shooting a revolver, NEVER, EVER use hollowpoints for really big game. It's fine for deer but very doubtful for pigs. I firmly believe in two big-ass holes, one going in and one going out.

Now what have me and Whitworth preached here for a long time? Does it matter whether it is a deer or a large animal? The right boolit works for everything, the wrong one only works for one.

Glad to hear that you got the animal and that no one was hurt in the process -- that's the good news! That is precisely why I believe in heavy, non-expanding bullets. 475Guy and bfrshooter, you guys are right -- two big holes equals lots of blood loss!

Yeah, I kinda like 'em to look like a water truck when spraying liquids all over. You know what I mean, jellybean?

Absolutely!

That would be a fun hunt!



....with hard casts of course!

I have seeing a lot of game taken with handguns ,and i took a lot too ,my experience dicatates that the garrets are excelent for buffalo ,but,they dont work well in boars at close distance ,where for example winchesters xtp perform excelent .Juan

Juan, Double Tap loads a 320 grain WFN that I have started using. It's really accurate in my Smith & Wessons, and I don't think it'll have trouble punching end to end through a hog! I just don't trust expanding bullets at handgun velocities on pigs.........

I didn't know that Argentina had buffalo!

Hmm, sounds like I might need to modify my reloading strategy for my new .454

NEJack -- heavy hardcasts all the way! My Casull is loaded with 400 grain WFNs.

There was a guy here a couple of years back that took a Cow water Buff with a heavy cast bullet load in 44 special. I don't remember all the details, but he said it went well. I think I have a pic somewhere.

found it.

Ive killed 4 cow buffalo two with a 500 linebaugh sixgun one with a 475 linebaugh rifle and the last with a 4 5/8s super blackhawk using the lyman devestator hollow point cast out of 5050 #2/pure. its not the gun i would have taken if i had bufflo hunting on the menu but it worked just fine in a pinch. Load was doing about 1200 fps out of the 4 5/8s gun. Bufflo was about 800 lbs. Shot was right behind the front shoulder and took out the top of the heart and actually exited on the far side leaving about a one inch exit hole. Im guessing the bullet penetrated, blew the nose off as there was quite a bit of internal damage and the base penetrated out the far side like a partition would have. the animal went about 40 yards and pilled up. There was no reaction to the hit but ive seen them shot by much bigger guns and have never seen a reaction to a bullet from them. WOuld i do it again with that load? Probably not but it sure shows that the devestator is a fine deer and black bear bullet and it also shows that the 44 mag is plenty of gun. If i did it again id probably load up a 300 grian hardcast swc or lfn and id have plenty of gun for the job.

Lloyd, what was the weight of the devastator bullets you used?

Since it seems that quite a few prefer heavy cast bullets(400 gr+.) I like the LBT bullets, but only up to 300-350 grs. Any time you have to get a new front sight with the rear sight screwed down tight, the bullet is way too heavy. I've found that cast bullets from 260-300 grs suit me just fine. In fact, I find absolutely no fault in the SWC bullets for any thing from 44-45 cal. The only time I'll use 400 grainers is with my 475 and may just go down to 350 grainers in the future as there seems to be no difference in killing power as long as it is hit right and it penetrates all the way through.

lubed and gas checked they go about 270 grain out of that alloy

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
Lloyd, what was the weight of the devastator bullets you used?

After this hunt i used almost exclusively garrets, or similar made here ,but for working at short distance with my dogos dogs -see hog forum- i use 1911s or my glock 40 always with hollow points and i get very good results ,i dont want a bullet exit and injure my dogs ,furthermore with some clients using garrets in boars from 3 to 15 mts have had bad results and dogs injured SO FOR CLOSE COMBAT I PREFER HOLLOW POINTS .
Lar45 the buffalo cow of that photo is about 200 kilos ,a buffalo male is about 1500 kilos ..... .Juan

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Originally posted by juanpozzi:
FOR CLOSE COMBAT I PREFER HOLLOW POINTS .

At 20 yards the 454 Casull with 300gr hollowpoints is very good hog medicine. If I ever get out on the land I use to guide on I will take a picture of the remains of the hog I hit with that combo

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Originally posted by juanpozzi:
I have seeing a lot of game taken with handguns ,and i took a lot too ,my experience dicatates that the garrets are excelent for buffalo ,but,they dont work well in boars at close distance ,where for example winchesters xtp perform excelent .Juan

Juan. A very nice buffalo. I want his brother. I like Garrett's loads, and think his lower powered ones would work on boars. Same goes fvor the Buffalo bore cartridges. The solid lead bullet (270 grain Leadheads at 1270 in 45 Colt) I used on the one after the Buffalo Bore worked well. On a buffalo I believe Garrett's .44s and Buffalo Bore's 45 Colts would work very well indeed.

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marlin guide gun 4570.Juan

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Originally posted by juanpozzi:
After this hunt i used almost exclusively garrets, or similar made here ,but for working at short distance with my dogos dogs -see hog forum- i use 1911s or my glock 40 always with hollow points and i get very good results ,i dont want a bullet exit and injure my dogs ,furthermore with some clients using garrets in boars from 3 to 15 mts have had bad results and dogs injured SO FOR CLOSE COMBAT I PREFER HOLLOW POINTS .
Lar45 the buffalo cow of that photo is about 200 kilos ,a buffalo male is about 1500 kilos ..... .Juan

My dog trainer here in Iowa is traing a litter of dogo's for drug detection and bomb sniffing. They are beautiful dogs, and he says they are great hunting dogs if trained right.

THEY ARE BREEDED AS BIG GAME DOGOS ONLY ,BUT HERE THEY ARE USED BY THE MALOCAL MARINES AS ATTACK DOGS,I DONT RECOMMEND IT BECAUSE THEY NEVER STOP THE ATTACK.jUAN