I can't follow the Remington.com link here at work, but if this is true, I wonder what that will do to a company (Barnes) that has proven very innovative over the years??

It would be great if we'd start seeing Barnes bullets in Remington factory ammo (for those of us who choose not to reload). It would be a pity if the excellent Barnes product line-up was degraded...

- mike

Fred is rolling over in his grave along with Jack Whitworth. roger

My guess is that what Remington wants is the technology rather than the product line. Part of phasing lead out of shooting.

The green types have found a villain (lead) and are using it to adversely affect another of their chosen targets.

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Originally posted by Winchester 69:
My guess is that what Remington wants is the technology rather than the product line. Part of phasing lead out of shooting.

The green types have found a villain (lead) and are using it to adversely affect another of their chosen targets.

Possibly but CNC turning copper isn't a difficult technology at all.

Many bullet manufacturers have highly marketable trade names.....among them are Nosler Particians, Swift A-Frames, and Accubonds.

Any reputable mfr of ammo could profit by merely owning the right to market their product as such.

Give the bean counters six months, people are already advertising "Pre-Remington Dakotas" for sale at inflated prices.
Sad to read...


Rich

Just to clarify....Remington didn't buy them but the company that owns remington did. That company (I think) also owns Marlin, Bushmaster, Dakota, and a number of other shooting companies.

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Originally posted by kraky:
Just to clarify....Remington didn't buy them but the company that owns remington did. That company (I think) also owns Marlin, Bushmaster, Dakota, and a number of other shooting companies.

and looking for more as I understand.

Just hope that they don't screw them up also.

Well, maybe now they'll make the same bullet for a few years and not be changing stuff about the time I have a good load worked up.

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Originally posted by kraky:
Just to clarify....Remington didn't buy them but the company that owns remington did. That company (I think) also owns Marlin, Bushmaster, Dakota, and a number of other shooting companies.

I guess I should of put the parnet company that own Remington also purchased Barnes.

Wasn't too long ago we use to buy Bulk Rem bullet for about 1/2 of what they change now. It will be great if the keep the two companies separte but you can see that someone is going to have a big chuck of the market on solid copper bullets in alot of calibers. Nolser/Hornady are playing catch up.

Sad to say that Remington isn't owned by Remington. A new company was formed that includes the holdings of Remington, Bushmaster, and several other companies. Remington was owned by the same company that owned Chrysler, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...s_Capital_Management
Reading the SEC filing for Freedom, it would seem that Cerebrus has been puting it's firearms companies in one group since 2006.

I always joked that they should have put a certificate for the Remington AR-10 together with the Dodge Ram.

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Give the bean counters six months, people are already advertising "Pre-Remington Dakotas" for sale at inflated prices.
Sad to read...


Rich

And this is where it becomes probematic. Venture Capital companies are famous for taking the cash out of companies and running them into the ground. I hope it doesn't happen here.

I cant follow the link either. Repost it when you get time. Thanks good info!

I want to know just one thing ; Does this mean cheaper prices for us consumers ?.

Yea save it I already know the answer we're going to get the shafting as they control the ore !.

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Originally posted by Cliff Lyle:

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Give the bean counters six months, people are already advertising "Pre-Remington Dakotas" for sale at inflated prices.
Sad to read...


Rich

And this is where it becomes probematic. Venture Capital companies are famous for taking the cash out of companies and running them into the ground. I hope it doesn't happen here.

and

These same winderbrains bought "the last of the model 70s" for 3X current price ..

and Cerberus AINT a venture cap company, they are an INVESTMENT company...

look at the fall in dpms, marlin, HR, and bushmaster sales ...

Sweet christmas, boys, these are just SILLY bs rumors.

Remington bought marlin AND brought out a new, lost cost, highly accurate BOLT gun .. when every SWORE remmy would kill everything but lever guns from them

Ya'll, SERIOUSLY, these guys are pros at doing ONE thing ..

Making money MAKE money ...

As for Cliff, they SURE DID have a bunch of money to take out of dakota, didn't they? Second bankrupty in the minimum legal times means NO CASH.

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Originally posted by Doc224/375:
I want to know just one thing ; Does this mean cheaper prices for us consumers ?.

Yea save it I already know the answer we're going to get the shafting as they control the ore !.

Yeah -- remington charges the most for their ammo and bullets today.. NO WAIT A SECOND .. they are the low cost LEADER in components.

Shesh...