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At this time we are not taking any new backorders for primers that are not listed here. We currently have over 50 million primers on backorder. If you currently have a backorder in place your order will be processed as primers become available. Once we begin receiving more primers from the manufacturers and are able to begin filling current backorders we will update the website. Well primers still seem to be in very short order !. So I'll have to assume I was correct again ! Eh !!!. Seems as though the short order cook in the Big House receives more than 30 death threats a day , 400% more than GWB ever got !!!. So no primers for us bad bad citizens who prefer to shoot paper and hunt !.  | ||
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I was able to get some small rifle and small pistol from Midway. The problem is if you are not setting on your computer when the announcement comes in you will be to late by the time you get through on the phone. I am getting more frequent notices so I think things are starting to get better. Not back to normal but better Bill Member DSC,DRSS,NRA,TSRA A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. -Mark Twain There ought to be one day - just one – when there is open season on Congressmen. ~Will Rogers~ | |||
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What doc, someone think you were wrong? I predicted back in March this would last at least until the end of the year. If PBO & the hood start throwing up antigun legislation, then it could last until fall 2010 & the Rep. taking back the house. That is more likely than things loosening up sooner than later. You would think though that everyone has spent all they can to hoard components & ammo.  LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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i said it would be .. and in houston, it certainly is .. i can walk into 4 stores in houston and buy nearly all the primers i CAN USE (not hoard), bullets, cases, 22 ammo is at walmart, and there's 9mm, 45, 357, and 40 and 45 acp on the shelves.. (ammo in several stores) all the powders I can want, with the sometimes shortage of h335 ... bullets on the shelves and progressive reloading presses on internet stor shelves, and at with 10$ of the price of this time last year. Houston, 7 million people, seem to be doing okay .. wanna bet the hoarders are still artifically driving the prices up. Oh, yeah, 7.62x39 and 223 ammo, ON THE SHELVES at walmart.. and AR type rifles in shock, EVERYDAY in dallas and houston. and at NORMAL prices.. 799 vs 1500 in jan. better? without a doubt pre-dem's takeoveR? Posts like doc's don't help opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Nothing in Austin Midway sells out in less than 2 hours. My brother has had 15,000 primers on back order from more than 6 months....nothing yet. | |||
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come to houston -- carter's has primers all day long.. acadamy has ammo walmart ahs ammo all of ARs on the shelf all have pistols in stock opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Got my FFL last October. I call some distributers and look up others on the net. I still can't get primers. It won't do me any good for them to tell me they have one kind or another at any one time. I need to be able to order a good variety under one Hazmat fee. Gpopper | |||
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Well Sam Houston !. What happens if you're just another sorry sort who doesn't reside in the Big T ?. Local suppliers are empty and waiting for shipments ,have been for several Months now going on better than a year . Sure they get 20K of this and that ( NO FEDERAL EVER ) and dole out a K too customers . So with in 30 minutes their right back waiting for a shipment again . I'm more like gbanger as in I need to order .I do so in large lots so years can pass me by without Needing to " Horde " primers . I simply purchase cases of cartons as it's economical ( was any way ). Not sure now as I've not seen any for sale through the usual outfits ?. fredj338 No & No one has accused me of being incorrect ,other than about the current commander and thief !. That's political and My opinion . I remember a posting some months back about how all would be well come July Aug Sept. and I along with your self and others didn't think it would be . As a forum of fellow shooters hunters ,reloaders and firearm enthusiast , We should keep each other a breast of component availability progress ; in regards too different areas in which we reside . I'm OK on components and shall be for quite some time , my concern is how long will I BE OK ???. | |||
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Almost everything in short supply here. Had bullets on order from Midway for over 6 months. Primers are few to none. Just hope it all gets better. Good Shooting | |||
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At the Gun Show in Grands Rapids Michigan this weekend, there was plenty powder and bullets, and a few primers, but.. There was more Pistol ammo than I have seen in years. Plenty - plenty to choose from. Remember, forgivness is easier to get than permission. | |||
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Doc 4th largest city in the country has plenty of primers .. they are making MILLIONS more than ever before .. Hording is the entire reason for the storage. Not you .. but the guys getting 20K and and only shooting 500 rounds a year .. There's no reason for a billion primers to be on back order .. that worsens the situation. opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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jeffeosso You may or may not be correct in either case it's beyond our control . Hording may have been a determining factor in the beginning . I'm NO LONGER convinced that's all it's about now !!. Time frame manufacturing raw materials distribution logistics don't bear it out . Besides look at all the troops who are coming home , now that Obama has shut down operations in Iraq !. Oh wait they were redeployed too Afghanistan weren't they , another busted promise on his sorry ass !. I don't hear the Dimwitted Dummycrats screaming illegal war though ?. Huh strange how it's OK when their Idiots , in lack of control or is it charge ? !!!. The point is Primers should be available nearly everywhere by now and their not !. A second point ; Precisely why I haven't placed an order for primers , what's the point of " Backing up orders further "!. | |||
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I guess it depends on where your at I traveled to montana a couple of weeks ago stopped at several guns stores they mostly had a bit of every thing one would need. My friend that is a dealer just got in a hundred thousand of diffrant sized primers. He say common hand gun cailbers are a bit harder to come by. goes by area I guess | |||
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About a month ago, I was in a reasonably large (for the area) sporting goods store in Michigan. They had shelves full of primers. I bought 1000 Fed Lg rifle magnum match primers. I could have bought more. Several weeks later, they didn't have any rifle primers. There was a rep from RCBS giving a seminar on reloading. When he was finished someone asked him why ammo was getting so expensive. The rep said it was because we are all buying more than we did before. He said they (ATK) have not raised prices. I don't believe that. | |||
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I only have one local dealer. He is out of everything except powder. No bullets and no primers. I mean no primers, he doesn't have one primer on the self. | |||
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Was in the local Walmart the other day. They had a few boxes of shells but no 22LR. Stopped by the local gun dealer. He said they would sell me a max of 2 boxes of 22LR. What happened to all of the 22LR? Luckily I'm set on centerfire components for a few years. Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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It all depends on where you are. I can go to Cabelas in KC and get everything I need (except Re15). I stopped by Wally World the other day and bought 22lr in the Remington 525 boxes for $16.50 per box. No big deal. Larry "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading" -- Thomas Jefferson | |||
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It seems awfully odd that so many firearms related components even ammunition are in such short supply !. Does anyone think because of that proposed Bill a while back , pertaining to Ammo even Hand Loaded ammo ( which had to be used up by 2011 and there after illegal to possess ) is to blame for all of the shortages ?.  | |||
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I was in Montana the 3rd week in July for some praire dog shooting and found all the reloading stuff i was looking for except small rifle primers. The only limit issue i had to deal with was on Large Rifle Magnum primersand still was allowed 1K of those (daily limit). Granted not every store had everything in one place, I did have to check out different ones (in Billings and Great Falls). Also granted some of the component choices were not my first pick, like got CCI primers instead of Winchester, but I even found a 8 lb jug of BL-(C)2 at the one store at a good price. Found some .22 ammo also, and 2 box limit on that too (333 rds per box). I also went to my local gun show this past weekend here in western Washington and noticed more availability of ammo and primers, tho primers are still over priced, except for one vendor who was selling Magtech small rifle primers for $28.00 per K or $130 per case of 5K. Never used this brand before and I think they are from South America, so I only got 1K of those (no limit stated on these and there were still several cases on the table on the 2nd day, Sunday of this show) and will do some function firing of them tonite at the range. Are things better now, hard to say, but it does look like some stuff is becoming more available. How long it will last is another story. Willi | |||
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Its hit and miss, and the sole reason is hording .. period why do people have 20K primers on order, who won't shoot 20k rounds in 40 years? So that they "have it, just in case" ...  opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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You are right. Damn hoarders. Obama should appoint a czar to regulate such matters. Surely the markets should not be allowed to decide who gets primers and who doesn't. 
No particular bill. Just the fact our most anti-gun crooks are our POTUS and in control of the Senate and House. No problem getting primers at my shop for the past few months. Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps. | |||
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Well I can tell you that many of the reloaders that did NOT have a primer stash were woefully annoyed they could not walk into thier local store & buy them. Since the last "Shortage" in 93-94, I have kept 10K mixed primers on hand at all times. So when I got down to just under that last Dec. I order another 5K. Then ordered 10K more the end of March. Right now I am only shooting about 500rds a month, but that doesn't mean I don't start back into competition next week & I'll need 2K/m. Having a stockpile is just purdent IMO. Now hoarding 100K, not sure I would want to invest in that amount for 3-4K rounds a year, but hey, it's their money, & when I was shooting 2K/m, well, 100K would not be out of line. I only have issue w/ the opportunists that are buying then reselling to newbs or the "less informed" on GB. That is really a problem driving the shortage on. LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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fredj338: I am wondering about the issues you raised. Perhaps hoarding for your own use is understandable, although I have negative feelings about it. But, I have been suspicious that we have speculators in our midst. Are they relying on our fear of Obama & the liberal Dems and buying up all the components they can to drive up prices and then resell at much higher prices? Or, are the component & ammo folks holding back to drive up prices? Or, is shortage due to increased cost of materials caused by competition for brass. copper, etc. due to China & India's growing consumption? Or, combination of all these? Or, some other reason(s)? I have not heard anything from the manufactuer's. Would sure like to know the reason for shortages, but all I hear is a lot of speculation. All I know is, in the Sacramento area(specifically, Roseville) when I went to WalMart 2-3 weeks ago, they had very little ammo, just a few cartons. Went to Sportsmans Warehouse; their shelves practically bare of components(bullets, powder & primers). Had some cartons of ammo on the shelves, but limited. Calif. is plagued by the liberal loonies & their anti-gun & anti-hunting policies, supported by the Dumbocratic legislature. Maybe this has something to do with OUR shortages, but how does that explain what's going on in other states? | |||
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In the capital of West Virginia supplies are very spotty. Still no small rifle primers at all. Some others on catch-as-catch-can basis. Powder supplies spotty as well. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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Keep your local suppliers checked.My local store here in Magnolia AR did get some CCI200 LR primers in recently.I called yesterday and found that they had them. I picked up 1k. That will do me for a while. | |||
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You guys may think youre hard done by, we over here have to make do with the crumbs from the big U.S. table if we want anything that is popular in the states, BUT we still see odds & sods here & there, you have to circle high & slow, then stoop like the eagle.  | |||
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Earlier this week I attended an multi department supplier meeting with the largest US retailer (The topic of the day being Supply Chain Management). Noticing another meeting attendee with a name tag from one of the name brand ammo companies I took the opportunity to ask “What is the outlook for this supply / order backlog”? The short answer was “The order backlog in much smaller than it was last month, but we are still way behind” | |||
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Our pastime has been affected by a change in a larger market. The general public does not reload. They usually buy a box or two of ammo a year. Now they are buying ammo by the case. There is more profit for a manufacturer selling ammo by the case so they put their components into the ammo. As one local put it. "I tried to buy a few boxes of 9mm ammo and couldn't find it. Finally some showed up so I bought 14,000 rounds"!!! | |||
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It still blows my mind that stores as big as Cabela's don't have components. I visited the Dundee, Michigan store on August 9, they had NO large rifle primers (none for the last two-months I was told) regardless of brand, and there was this big 8-foot section of shelving a gaping chasm of space where bricks of .22LRs usually sit. I don't know, is there a cycle of which components run-out/restock first? Last year at this time I couldn't get powder. When I visited Cabela's this time, I was able to get 4 of the 5 powders I wanted. | |||
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SInce PBO was elected, there have been quite a few new gun owners. People I know that would never have bought a handgun went out & bought 1, 2 or 3! So they have to buy ammo. As of June, there are something like 6Mil new handgun owners, not 6mil new handguns, but new owners. Each buys 10boxes of ammo, that's 60mil rounds. Now everyone that owns guns starts seeing shortages & decides to stock up, what's that 600mil rounds. The ammo companies are running 24-7 shifts just to keep up. Then guys that can't find ammo start reloading, there goes any of the surplus primers & powder to the new reloaders. Of course the dip-shit opportunists get involved & try to make a buck. All this leads to shortages. It will go away, but not sooner than later I'm afraid. I'm glad I was prudent & always keep a good supply of primers & pwoder on hand. Powder is easy, so many will work in handguns & many in rifles. Primers are the hard part. Without them you don't shoot, so it's no wonder people are buying 20K, 40K or 60K at a pop. WHo knows when they will be available? I waited 3m for my last order of 10K pistol primers & I'll buy more when ever they are available again. I am set right now for 2-3yrs of shooting. LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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I visited three cabelas stores in the East this past weekend, all three have of powder and brass, but nearly empty on Primers ( a few shotshell primers thats all) | |||
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I was in a local shop here last Friday and found CCI LR mag, LP mag, SP, Rem 6 1/2, Federal LP mag, about 3 dz cartons total. His prices were $34 - $55. That`s the most primers I`ve seen in one place in a year. ------------------------------------ The trouble with the Internet is that it's replacing masturbation as a leisure activity. ~Patrick Murray "Why shouldn`t truth be stranger then fiction? Fiction after all has to make sense." (Samual Clemens) "Saepe errans, numquam dubitans --Frequently in error, never in doubt". | |||
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Same up here; lots of powder, but no primers except for shotgun primers. | |||
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Another name for our esteemed Kenyadent from Doc that hits damned close to the mark... Was in my local store a few days ago. Word is the shortage won't be alleviated until this comin' January... | |||
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Got in 10,000 Wolf LR primers from Powder valley a couple of weeks ago, but my 2 jugs of Varget has been on order since March. Nothing! "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading". | |||
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In order for market normalcy doesn't it require ALL BRANDS of primers and powders to be available ?. Competition in the market place requires more than a single brand or PRICES WILL SKY ROCKET !. Also known as a MONOPOLY . Surplus Brass See my post ; I'm not hijacking the thread even if it is my own posting . Something smells and it isn't perfume !. Like when we were waiting 30 clicks SW of Hue next too Huong to bail out Marines . A smell that never ever leaves you !!!. | |||
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Cabela's has 1 pound cans of Varget in stock. | |||
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Actually, around here (Quad Cities, Iowa) things are getting pretty close. You can find just about any loaded ammo on the shelf, and componet for most of what I load. Primers are hit and miss, but if you drive across town what one store doesn't have the other does. Not quite back to normal, but the maddness is no longer there. | |||
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Wideners Shooting Supply - Wideners.com - has Wolf primers in stock now. Get them while you can. Ken | |||
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