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http://www2.ebay.com/aw/core/200707301000452.html

So much for buying reloading stuff there anymore. Looks like the classifieds here may get a bit busier.

Decided to cut and paste in case some can't view it:

Hello everyone…In mid-August, we will be updating our Firearms, Weapons and Knives Policy to place more restrictions around gun-related items. Once these changes take effect, we will prohibit listings of any firearm part that is required for the firing of a gun. This includes items like bullet tips, brass casings and shells, barrels, slides, cylinders, magazines, firing pins, trigger assemblies, etc. Please read the Firearms, Weapons and Knives Policy for more details on our current policy.

As you may know, eBay does not allow the listing of any items which are regulated by individual states or the federal government; however, there are still a large number of firearm-related parts that are legal and are widely available in retail stores. These items have also historically been allowed on eBay.

After learning that some items purchased on eBay may have been used in the tragedy at Virginia Tech in April 2007, we felt that revisiting our policies was not only necessary, but the right thing to do. After much consideration, the Trust & Safety policy team – along with our executive leaders at eBay Inc. – have made the decision to further restrict more of these items than federal and state regulations require.

This new update continues to encourage safety among our community members and brings our policies in the U.S. and Canada in closer alignment with our existing policies in other markets around the globe.

Sincerely,

Matt Halprin
Vice President, Trust & Safety


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Posts: 223 | Location: New England | Registered: 03 November 2003Reply With Quote
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Yep their typical over reaction. They have been looking for a reason to exclude more firearm related sales. Just an excuse.

Guess I need to run out and buy some of those "bullet tips" before they are all gone.


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
 
Posts: 12881 | Location: Mexico, MO | Registered: 02 April 2001Reply With Quote
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more bullshit in the form of political correctness!
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so would I take that to also mean scopes, I guess it wouldn't be too bad if scopes where included, because getting a good deal on a scope there is a joke, anyone ever seen that used beat up, vari-x II's go for more money than a brand new VX-I


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The usual "social conscience" of a company based in Santa Monica and the Bay Area.

Well, they're consistent anyway.


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Posts: 1580 | Location: Dallas, Tx | Registered: 02 June 2006Reply With Quote
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Dang, I didn't see this one. I'll remove my post about this.

Typical Liberal Hypocracy at it's finest....

I can hear it now, "Reloading Components Kill People....."


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Posts: 4146 | Location: North Louisiana | Registered: 18 February 2004Reply With Quote
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Fuck E-bay!
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^^What he said.^^ ~Marc
 
Posts: 46 | Location: South Carolina | Registered: 29 January 2007Reply With Quote
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They have expressed their Anti policy for years.
So whats new. I have never purchased anything form them in the past and I despise paypal.

I have been shooting and reloading for 50+ years and didn't need them.

Frankly I wouldn't give them the sweat off my knee caps.

Bill
 
Posts: 479 | Location: MINOT, NORTH DAKOTA | Registered: 24 January 2005Reply With Quote
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pussys!
 
Posts: 4821 | Location: Idaho/North Mex. | Registered: 12 June 2002Reply With Quote
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I guess they better look at their "eating utensils" policy...afterall it is the fork that makes Rosie fat!!!!!!!!!
 
Posts: 437 | Location: S.E. Idaho | Registered: 23 July 2003Reply With Quote
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PayPal is part of Ebay. They both suck
and I refuse to use them because of policies
like this one.

Use Gunbroker.com and AuctionArms.com

best, dxr


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Posts: 1524 | Location: Don't Mess With Texas | Registered: 02 January 2006Reply With Quote
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I would love to see another company get Ebay's business.

They have a market that has reached dominance is size, but the web site it's self is poorly constructed.

If Ebay had real competition, besides Craig's List locally, then Ebay would have to improve.
 
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This should be a huge business opportunity for GunBroker if they handle it correctly.


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Posts: 1580 | Location: Dallas, Tx | Registered: 02 June 2006Reply With Quote
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Just took E-Bay off my shooting supply favorites list!


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pissers
..........E-BAY


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Posts: 3976 | Location: Oklahoma,USA | Registered: 27 February 2004Reply With Quote
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damn. i had people pay crazy prices for parts when selling there.


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Posts: 225 | Location: houston, tx | Registered: 04 February 2003Reply With Quote
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Thanks for the info I alerted my dealer,friends & Nosler who knew nothing about this change.Typical CA bay area political correctness surfacing!
 
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Here's an online petition, for what good it will do.

http://www.petitiononline.com/ebay0001/petition.html
 
Posts: 1615 | Location: Washington State | Registered: 27 May 2004Reply With Quote
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Signed anyway. #264
 
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>Frowner


Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too!

Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system.

 
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#316...Like it will do any good with these short sided morons.
 
Posts: 437 | Location: S.E. Idaho | Registered: 23 July 2003Reply With Quote
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For what it's worth, #324


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Posts: 1652 | Location: Deer Park, Texas | Registered: 08 June 2005Reply With Quote
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they dont have a problem selling bongs and rolling papers Roll Eyes


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Posts: 27607 | Location: Where tech companies are trying to control you and brainwash you. | Registered: 29 April 2005Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by nugman:
I haven't been a fan of eBay for a long time. The biggest issue I have is that many people use it as an "underground, electronic flea market" and don't pay taxes on goods sold.

I wonder what the eBay sellers' responses would be if the US Government/IRS conducted an audit on all eBay users/sellers for taxes not collected or sent in.

It's easy to squash a particular unPC group (gun folks). Let's see how people respond if the IRS steps in and collects a flat 10% on all sales. Who knows, as retribution, us gun folk could start writing letters to our local papers repeatedly asking for a mandatory tax to collect from sellers. Perhaps people would use eBay less, and stock price would fall. If they (eBay) are going to "put the boots" to us, then I say let's drop a grenade on them as we are forced to leave.


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Posts: 4386 | Location: New Woodstock, Madison County, Central NY | Registered: 04 January 2005Reply With Quote
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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has just announced anti-gun ebay CEO Meg Whitman as one of his finance chairs:

http://www.mittromney.com/News/Press-Releases/National_Finance_Committee
 
Posts: 13243 | Location: Henly, TX, USA | Registered: 04 April 2001Reply With Quote
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Since I couldn't find a place to contact them. I sent a note to customer supoort. Basically saying that they had never cared what their customers thought in the past but that I felt that they were way over-reacting. This is what they had to say.

Dear Paul

Thank you for writing in regard to eBay's newly revised Firearms policy.

After the tragedy at Virginia Tech, eBay?s Trust & Safety team along
with executives at the company felt it was important to re-examine our
existing policy and evaluate if it still met the needs of our
marketplace and our company. At eBay we constantly review and update
our policies and, after careful consideration, we determined that this
policy change was in the best interest of our marketplace and our
company.

While eBay hasn?t allowed the sale of any item regulated by individual
states or the federal government in the past, there are still a large
number of firearm-related parts that are legal and are widely available
in retail stores. These items have also historically been allowed on
eBay.

Now, we are extending our policy to prohibit the sale of any item that
is required for the firing of a gun. These items include bullet tips,
brass casings, shells, barrels, slides cylinders, magazines, etc. We
have made the decision to exceed the requirements of federal and state
regulations for safety and to bring our policies in the US and Canada in
closer alignment with our policies in other markets around the globe.

I understand your frustration regarding this matter Paul and apologize
for the inconvenience it caused you.

Sincerely,

Heidi
eBay Customer Support

As I will continue to say they don't care what their customer say or want.


As usual just my $.02
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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has just announced anti-gun ebay CEO Meg Whitman as one of his finance chairs:

Darn I had some hope for him. I did go to his site and contact them about how I felt about the appointment. That will do as much good as contacting Ebay but what the heck.


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
 
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So if some guy buys a hub cap off e-bay and puts it on a car he then drives drunk and causes an accident that kills somebody they won't be selling car parts anymore?
 
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eBay has been steadily declining in both quality and usefulness ever since its inception. Forgetting guns for a second, they have more BS rules on their site than I care to even list. They're in cahoots with Paypal, so no matter what, they're getting more of your $$. eBay is a good idea, but is entirely too risky in today's world. You can't trust everyone.

Now, insofar as buying and selling firearm components on their site, that would always be the last place I'd look for anything, so it's no big loss. Meg Whitman can kiss both halves of my ass.


PS - Oh, and as for their cowardly and insensitive use of the VT shooting as fodder, I don't think the shooter reloaded his own ammo or built his own guns, so what the hell are they talking about?! One of the most reprehensible forms of behavior, IMO, is using a horrible public tragedy to strengthen your cause. Talk about low.


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