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I shot some 38spcl loaded with 8.7 grs. 2400 powder and federal 200M primers.
There was a little un-burnt powder.
I have not shot 2400 in the 38 before and does this seem normal?
 
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The 38 spcl is much too low a pressure cartridge to use 2400 in IMHO.
2400 burns dirty to begin with and low pressures just add to it. I`d switch to a faster powder such as Unique or Herco as the slowest.


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Thanks joe. I loaded some to try. If you used a hevier crimp do you think it would burn most of the powder?
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A heavy crimp will help the 2400 to burn cleaner, the heavier the better. 2400 is one of my favorite powders but does its best work at higher pressures and with a heavy crimp for cleaner ignition. The unburnt powder is unsightly but won't impede accuracy at all.
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i had powder remnants with loading lowish pressure 7,62x25 .. in a 20" barrel .. big crimp and all .. next set goes a bit higher


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What weight bullet were you using, what barrel length and which 38 revolver?

That is a fairly light load even with a 158 cast or jacketed bullet.

2400 works best with loads near its upper range.


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I've shot thousands of rounds of 158 gr RNL over heavy charges of 2400 in my IPSC matches. Managed to win three national revolver USPSA titles shooting them in a 5" comped L-frame.

Some unburned powder will be found but not an unworkable amount.

Greg

BTW The NEW 2400 is faster than the OLD stuff from 10 years ago. I had to back down about a grain with it when I switched to a new 8 pounder.
 
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thanks for the info.
The bullet is a 158gr jhp speer bullet.
4" model 10 smith and a model 66 smith both are k frame.
i think max for the 38spcl is around 9 grs?
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Alliant list 9 gr of 2400 with a 147 gr SWC. Lead seems to allow a bit hotter loading. I don't have Lyman in front of me or I would look it over for you. I've been shooting 9 grains in my 586 for a long time. (sometimes more but the 9 works well.)

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I load 2400 as .38+p loads for use in my Ruger .357 mag.

10gr (old) 2400 and a 158gr lead semi-wad cutter. Shoots great with no issues.
 
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2400 is a magnum powder. Hodgdon HS6 or Win. 231 are good choices for 38 Spl, with a heavy bullet and a longer barrel. 115 grainers in a snubby ain't gonna work. I don't like Bullseye or any of the "Dot" powders, Unique. They're too hot and fussy for loads. Weight variations in the throw on these powders can be significant.
 
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